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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:04 AM
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Freepers turn on Bush
Edited on Thu May-31-07 09:06 AM by sabra

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/05/talkradio_allie.html

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The backlash in conservative talk radio -- typically some the White House’s biggest cheerleaders -- has been harsh and swift. Rush Limbaugh on Wednesday said Bush was wrong to attack "the people who have stood by him through thick and thin when everybody's been trying to destroy him," and said he'd understand if some of his listeners "flew the coop" on Bush based on his immigration comments.

"I just wish he hadn't done it, because he's not going to lose me on Iraq, national security, war on terror, but he may lose some of you," Limbaugh said. "The people who've hung with you, you don't just cast them aside, even in a casual sense. That's what worries me most."

...

"They're trying to ram this whole down our throats," Hannity said. "You know, the idea that we don't want to do what's right for America? No, we actually do. We believe in the laws as presently passed, and we believe in consequences for those that break our laws."

Mark Levin took similar offense to the president's suggestions on Tuesday, and even suggested that Bush hadn’t read the bill.

"We are the 28 percent or the 32 percent who supports this president, and he puts us down? He treats us like we're stupid?" Levin said. "Don't degrade us, Mr. President, don't smear us. Don't project onto us what you want to think of us, because we aren't what you say. And the idea that you'd turn on your own supporters and treat them this way, something's wrong with that."

"You imply that we have animosity toward a certain race of people. You treat us like we're Klansmen. To be frank, it's pretty disgusting, to be honest with you," he continued. "We are studying the bill, we are breaking it down. Are you? And you really think by smearing us, you'll win the day?"



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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:05 AM
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1. Get this straight, Freepers--Bush NEVER wanted to be your President
He wanted to be President, period. Never gave a shit if actual Americans -- right or left -- approved, and never will.

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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:22 AM
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17. Oh, he wanted to please his base -- the very tip-top investor/CEO class.
Less than one percent of the population -- that's who Bush is running the entire shebang for. Heads of Exxon, heads of the Carlisle Group, heads of Halliburton -- he is THEIR president, and nobody else's.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:45 AM
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19. Yep, the "have-mores."
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 12:18 PM
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22. "...some call you the have-mores, I call you my base."
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skypilot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 02:00 PM
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32. No, it goes...
"...some call you the elite, I call you my base."

Every idiot who ever supported this guy should be forced to watch him say that, but they were more interested in trying to stick it to Michael Moore by not seeing his movie.
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Raster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 02:06 PM
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34. thank you. I stand corrected, and just as disgusted.
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 02:19 PM
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35. I have a feeling most Bushbots think they are "The Elite"
Even though they're typically middle-class like most of us.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:48 PM
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51. The entire text:
"This is an impressive crowd: the haves and the have-mores. Some people call you the elite. I call you my base."
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:06 AM
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2. Senseless and expensive war, no problem. Brown folk--get the pitchforks!
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:06 AM
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3. Just goes to show what Blivet really believed to begin with ...
... NOTHING.

I almost feel a little bit sorry for the Toids, that it's taken them this long to realize they've all been used. Almost. But not quite. :P
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 06:02 PM
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46. I am shocked that they are capable of independent thought
on any subject. And I still feel that it will only take a little work by FAUX and the rest to bring them around.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:07 AM
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4. BWAH. Wake up and smell the imported coffee ya shitstains.
:rofl:
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 01:08 PM
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28. LOL!
i like it.
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NewJeffCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:07 AM
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5. Maybe Rove's fax machine was broken?
so, they forget to send out the daily Talking Points?
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jedicord Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:09 AM
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6. So now they know what it feels like to be called un-American.
In yer faces!:headbang:
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:13 AM
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7. With the influx of legal immigrants, they are afraid they will be marginalized. Well, Hell, they
already are.
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:13 AM
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8. Bush's base was ALWAYS The Haves and HaveMores. Freepers were useful idiots to the fascists
along with the uber-fundamentalists who slavishly backed him for the occasional WH nod to their most sacred delusions.
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StudentsMustUniteNow Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:49 AM
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20. Amen n/t
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:19 AM
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9. "We are the 28 percent or the 32 percent who supports this president, and he puts us down?
He treats us like we're stupid?"

Ummmm...if you KNOW you're only 28% and you STILL support the asshole....well then you just might be STOOPID.

Good grief, rightwingnuts are dumber than the stupidest MFers on the planet.
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txindy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 11:14 PM
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54. It's also funny that they admit his approval rating is only 28%
Since they spend so much of their time trying to convince themselves that polls lie and they are in the majority. :eyes:

Now they know what their hero truly thinks of them - in the rare moment that he thinks of them, at all.
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Dhalgren Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:23 AM
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10. I just fucking love this:
"And you really think by smearing us, you'll win the day?" It is what he and his gang do. They smear people that they want shut up. This time that means you, butt-face. Over the past twenty years or so, this ilk has smeared anyone who might even remotely be considered liberal. They smeared good, decent, hard-working liberals so badly that people won't even call themselves liberals anymore. And now you are bitching because the machine has begun smearing you?! Suck it up and eat the shit, asshole...
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immoderate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 01:03 PM
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27. So very true...
They called us racists when we opposed Gonzales, and they called us chauvinists when we opposed Harriet Miers, and they called us racists AND chauvinists when we opposed Janice Rogers Brown. To paraphrase Gordon Gecko, they think, "Smear is good!"

Oh the irony.

--IMM
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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:31 AM
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11. Stupid f***ers.
That's why you are the 28%, he's p***ed everyone else off - now it's your turn.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:39 AM
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12. Reminds me of a story I heard about Bush.
I don't know if this is true or not, but early in his Presidency, Bush was meeting people and shaking hands, and one man told Bush as he shook his hand, "I do not approve of the way you're running this country."

To which Bush responded, with a big smile on his face for the cameras, "Who the hell asked you what you thought? No one cares." To which he kept on moving down the line.

A woman standing next to the man asked him if she'd heard right. She had.

Bush is an evil little man. A monster. Congress must deal with him and his administration.
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renate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 11:09 AM
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21. well, whether it's true or not
... that's him in a nutshell.
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 01:52 PM
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31. "Who cares what you think?"
http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/feature/2004/03/19/bush_encounter/index.html

March 19, 2004 | It has been almost three years since I spoke with the president of the United States, and I still get mail about it.

It was July 4, 2001, and we were both at one of those things that the late historian Daniel Boorstin would have labeled a "pseudo event": a church picnic in Philadelphia, designed to help promote George W. Bush's faith-based policies. Because I had serious misgivings about the president's performance to that point, my own involvement in the whole operation had left me feeling a bit like a pseudo person, so when I had the chance to shake Bush's hand, I said, "Mr. President, I hope you only serve one term. I'm very disappointed in your work so far."

His smiling response was swift: "Who cares what you think?"

In retrospect, it's an excellent question. I made a list, and it's pretty short: My family cares what I think. My friends care. My various employers have cared at various times, as have a generous handful of teachers and mentors. But that's about it. In the big picture, I'm nobody from nowhere, and the marketplace for my ideas is pretty slim.

A president, of course, is in the opposite position. Everybody cares what he thinks. Huge numbers of people devote themselves to shaping his thoughts and putting them into action. Most of my thoughts evaporate in conversation. His change lives around the globe. So I can understand the pleasure that flashed in his eye when he spoke to me. Mine was an easy lob; his was a smashing return.

But it was an unexpected return, to say the least, and as soon as our handshake was done, I stepped away and pulled out my notebook to write it down. This he noticed, and I heard him call out. I turned to see him 10 or 12 feet farther down the handshake line, craning his neck above the crowd -- he's shorter than I had expected -- and looking right at me, asking, "Who do you write for?"

...more...
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 03:31 PM
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42. "Hey, Webb, how's your boy?"
"So, who are we here to honor today?"

From Mom: "I don't want to dirty my beautiful mind with body bags."
"Most of them were underprivileged, so this is working out very well for them."
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 03:50 PM
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43. some family values those
bu$he$ have

:grr:
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 03:11 PM
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39. i thought he said
"i don't care what you think". same difference tho.
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senseandsensibility Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 06:05 PM
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47. He would definitely say that
But I find it hard to believe he would allow anyone close enough to him to shake his hand that hadn't signed a loyalty oath.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:47 AM
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13. What a bunch of whiny babies.
Bush has done a shit load for these toads. Just look at the Supreme Court he gave them.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 09:59 AM
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14. Good Germans thought the Fuhrer would respect them too
They thought they were safe. They thought their loyalty bought them influence and protection, a say in what happened. They soon learned you don't argue with the Fuhrer. He knows what's best. He's the Decider.

Good Americans, don't argue with your Fuhrer.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 01:12 PM
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30. When the Brown Shirts became a threat, der Fuhrer did them in.
Junior doesn't need them any more. Those idiots don't realize they would be some of the first to be sent to the camps.
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Lautremont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:00 AM
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15. I'll bet they do!
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:12 AM
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16. * is right about one thing. The 28% backwash is stupid.
That's why he's been able to use them for so long.:rofl:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:43 AM
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18. How to Choose a Political Leader 101...never pick a Dufus
The GOP and the Freeps backed W both times....

How can Americans trust The GOP choices from now on? The GOP couldn't pick a proper Prez...not only that...they went for the Loser twice....Damn
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BurtWorm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 12:21 PM
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23. Right wing radio hosts to Bush:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 12:25 PM
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24. Hannity: "we believe in consequences for those that break our laws"
:rofl:

Oh, that's rich, Sean, that's the mother lode of irony, there.
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DemGa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 12:35 PM
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25. They're not going anywhere
They do these scream and cry routines often, then promptly fall back in line. This kind of political theater just keeps them interested.
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Rydz777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 12:35 PM
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26. Bush despises anyone who was stupid enough to vote for him. n/t
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 01:11 PM
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29. "He treats us like we're stupid?"
Yeah, well, you're stupid enough to be in the 28% that still supports him.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 02:59 PM
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36. That sentence stood out in BOLD letters to me. Uh, yeah, well, if the shoe fits.
How much more stupid can you be than to count yourself amongst that 28%? Good grief.
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Annces Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 02:06 PM
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33. Bush cares about no one you bunch of lemmings
You guys are stupid.
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NorthernSpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 03:04 PM
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37. yes, and we certainly know how they feel, don't we?
Getting sold out sucks. Lord knows we've been there ourselves.

I suspect that Bush fails to understand that Democrats and the left are not actually united in favor of either amnesty in general, or this plan in particular. The line that divides the right on this issue also cuts through the left. So if he thought that by selling out his own voters he would be able to turn a left-center consensus on immigration to his advantage, then he thought wrong: there is no such consensus.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 03:07 PM
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38. Bush is consistent in advocating law breaking -- and then criticising those who demand adherence to
the law...as unAmerican.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 03:11 PM
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40. Be a shame if one of the disillusioned former faithful did something terrible
A SHAME
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 05:52 PM
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44. Would it be a shame;
If one of the 28% resulted in a modern day Carl Austin Weiss? Interesting thought!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Austin_Weiss
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 03:26 PM
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41. God I love that
Edited on Thu May-31-07 03:26 PM by wryter2000
He questioned their patriotism. It's even better than the day that Blitzer was shocked, shocked, I tell you!, that Lynn Cheney had questioned his patriotism. Who ever heard of such a thing?
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Cabcere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 06:00 PM
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45. K&R.
Way to go, morans! :rofl:
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loser_user Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 06:40 PM
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48. They say alcoholics have moments of clarity
Perhaps from THAT moment they start healing...but some its very unlikely for that to occur.
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Polemicist Donating Member (299 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:36 PM
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49. The political reality of Immigration debate in America.
It's very simple. If the nativists that dominate the GOP stop the immigration bill and succeed in passing a draconian expulsion of primarily Latin American undocumented aliens in America, they are doomed to become the permanent minority party in America for the next 30 to 40 years, because they will have offended millions Americans of Latin origin.

If these nativists fail to stop this immigration deal, but fight it voraciously, long and hard, and succeed in amending it to make it harsher, they will have doomed themselves to minority status, just like in the first illustration.

If these nativists battle against this bill, and it passes as structured anyway, the GOP is doomed to minority status for the same reason as the second explanation above.

If they don't oppose this immigration bill and it passes, the GOP is doomed to permanent minority status, as the pathway to citizenship will lead to millions of new voters in lower socioeconomic circumstances, that will likely vote with liberals and Democrats.

Immigration is a lose, lose, lose proposition for conservatives and Republicans. But it's the most important issue to most of their core, the nativists who oppose diversity. The only way they win this game, is not to play at all, and have no immigration debate. Or to successfully triangulate on the issue from the White House to prevent long term political damage. Bush/Rove is attempting to do just that. But it's like herding cats for them, their party has bolted the ranch on this issue.

I'm just watching them whack each other over the head, knowing we win in almost every scenario, at worst push (tie) and don't lose in any circumstances.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:44 PM
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50. When Bush's term expires we will simply wonder how this incompetent fool managed
to remain in office and squash any investigations into him and Cheney!
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 10:59 PM
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52. Why do they hate 'murka?
:rofl:
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-31-07 11:03 PM
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53. They got what they voted for...nt
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