A neutral post about the wonders of Diesel Technology! (pics)

[Pavulon]

During contentions times I try to take a breath and enjoy really cool things.

The diesel motor is, in my opinion a form of art. It the working mans technology. It powers tractors, massive ships, vehicles from 18k to 70k, and race cars! Runs on old waste oil.

Massive 2 cycle diesel (prime mover) Burns hundreds of gallons per rpm. 108,000 horse power. Exhaust is used to boil water for steam. Smokeless operation. Most efficient way to power cargo ships (non nuclear). Fuel is preheated to 180f before injection.


Audi Race engine. 12 cyc 5.5 liter 650hp/820 ft/lbs torque lemans winning engine.


BWM 330d 5.5 0-60 55mpg (wish it was sold in the US)


And BLUEEC which is a slev

s320 hybrid. If you really need to out smug a prius owner..

closing thought. The million mile miracle and possible one of the best designs of all times! The 240D

[Lint Head]

1. Please shift into 5th gear.

http://www.ucsusa.org/clean_vehicles/big_rig_cleanup/life-of-soot-diesel-pollution-emissions-and-health-effects.html

:dem:

[Pavulon]

3. The diesel standards for 2007

are quite stringent. The technology is adapting. Diesel burns 30 - 50 percent less fuel than a comparable gas car. It lasts longer and is safer in an accident.

Diesel has a much higher flash point than gasoline.

Bottom line it is technology that can be improved and adapted to run on renewable, recycled fuel.

[Captain Hilts]

2. Fairbanks - Morse on a submarine. Ooooooh bay-beee! Full on four!

http://www.usstorsk.org/virtualtour/after_er/index.htm

This one's kind of dirty...the engine's private parts:

http://www.usstorsk.org/virtualtour/after_er/index.htm

[Flatulo]

4. Those Audi turbo-deisels are amazing. I wish they would send them

over here. Absolutely brilliant engineering. Ditto for the Daimler Blue-tec.

[dweller]

5. i'm currently dealing with a mechanic

that is very astute concerning deisel/biofuel. Knows it pretty much inside out. He's had training in producing/is licensed to produce fuels at his home business.Has the training to convert vehicles over. I am not seeking his skills in that area, but trying to understand and learn a bit about it. It's over my head in most areas, but what i'm hearing from him is that he's not finding anyone in need of his services.

Granted he's a small business, and business is down for him right now. He says it's the same with most others in his field, mechanics in general, as he's contacted them and they report the same.

Yet i look around and see massive amounts of traffic/vehicles burning petrol regardless of the costs.
I guess we'll see $5/gal before the need for alternatives ever becomes a dire necessity.

:shrug:
dp

[Pavulon]

6. NC runs its fleet on b20

most diesels built in the last 10 years do not need conversion. You just pump in b(whatever) and drive. Running pure b100 in certain climates requires modification.

Every diesel built in the last decade could cut to b50 tomorrow. It is cleaner and renewable (the b part)

If you have a building away from your home you can make your own still for a pretty small cost in parts.

[Captain Hilts]

7. "NC." ??? nt

[Pavulon]

9. The State of North Carolina

NCDOT and other agencies are transitioning. Raleigh and charlotte run it in their fleet vehicles. School systems are retrofitting.

NC State is running on b20 they make.

[dweller]

10. North Carolina

where i am located.

dp

[Pavulon]

15. We (NC) have a massive

biodiesel system going in. It is very popular down east.

http://southeastfarmpress.com/mag/farming_north_carolina_biodiesel/

This will be a major boost to farmers.

[dweller]

8. and you just went right over my head :)

i spent a bit today listening to the mechanic and the tow truck driver who delivered my junk POS discuss diesel/biodiesel today. It was interesting, and hopefully one will be able to help the other. But i was just a bystander in the discussion, and attempting to not appear clueless. I listen, learn what i can.

I guess what i'm gleaning (in my travails) is there is a need for this technology, and individuals are attempting to connect with each other to take necessary steps to get themselves utilizing it or wanting to take advantage of it, but the fine tuning (connecting and paying to do it) just isn't happening yet.

i was just happy to see the 2 connecting.
dp

[Pavulon]

12. Biodiesel

is a mixture of standard #2 diesel and a organic oil. Its make up is listed with a b. for example a 50/50 blend would be b50.

pure biodiesel can be made from corn, soy, flax, basically and organic oil. Modern diesels can run on this mixture.

Problems with pure biodiesel happen as temperatures drop. If you put corn oil in the freezer it begins to gel.

To overcome this you can heat your fuel or run a blend of regular diesel fuel and biofuel.

My company runs b20 in ford trucks with no impact. You can switch back to regular diesel and then pump in b20 at one of the facilities. No harm.

Europe runs the majority of its cars on diesel. It is more efficient, and clean in modern form.

The jetta TDI as a great example of an affordable car that gets high mileage (40 - 50) and can run biodiesel.

[madrchsod]

11. my daughter works at a plant that is going

to be building turbo parts for volkswagon in the next few years. i think in the near future all german cars will be bio/oil diesels

[Pavulon]

13. You are correct

Mercedes and VW have invested hundreds of millions in the technology. It is efficient and in conjunction with hybrid/bio fuel it has massive potential.

[dweller]

14. will you ask your daughter

to look into a retro-fit for a 77 2.0+ ltr Volks bus to run bio?

i don't need it tomorrow, just look into the possiblity for the future? I'll also consider electric/hybrid. Can't hurt to ask.

:)
dp

[Pavulon]

16. Yep!

The motor from an audi5e can be swapped in place of a type 4 vw motor with minor transmission changes.

that old engine would require all fuel lines be replaced with metal lines to run a biodiesel fuel.

In reality you will not be able to find that motor in working condition.

[Pavulon]

17. Evening all.

One more warstella pic.



For scale this part of your car is about 2.5 feet long.

[murloc]

21. WOW thats beautiful

in its own engineering & mechanical way.

[bullwinkle428]

18. Hemp has supposedly shown tremendous potential as a source for bio-diesel -

unfortunately, the "reefer madness" mentality that exists amongst law enforcement in this country may prevent this from ever becoming reality.

[IDemo]

19. gallons per rpm?

Per revolution? Per minute? Or...

[Gregorian]

20. You might like this.