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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 04:24 PM
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So let me get this straight....
While the Afghanistan War continued for 8 years, it wasn't that big an issue,
and in fact, it appears that if Obama wouldn't have called for this formal review,
no one would have really given a shit if we would have continued status quo
for a few more years.

But, since OBama decided to call a review, to actually come up with a new strategy
for Afghanistan in order to take action and wrap up this protracted war,
now he is the bad guy? He is being treated as though he is declaring war,
when in reality is that he is shifting strategy to clean up this shit left behind.

How is it that those who are so opposed to war today, didn't seem to give much of a shit in October, since the war was going on right under their noses, and had been for 8 years, without an end in sight....?

Why is it that Obama determines to provide us with a strategy and an end game, all of the sudden
the natives are carrying their head in their hand cause their hair is on fire, acting like this man started this war.

If someone is going to tell me that there is more concern because 30,000 additional troops are going in, the question then become, would it have been any better if the 30,000 saw combat through rotation rather than coming in as added force? And why didn't the soldiers who are already there without the 30,000 count for less?

Why are some posters showing photos of bloody carnage, and why is anyone who still supports Obama is being called a warmonger? Why wasn't that the case in January, February, March, April, May, June, July, September, October and most of November....cause the war has been going on since and before then.

Why such fervent "concern" for our soldiers now, soldiers who have historically voted for the Repugs
(who send them to war) in the majority, as though they need protection from big bad Obama?
It almost smell like the "concern" the Right Wing uses about the unborn.


What in the fuck is going on here, and why doesn't it make any sense?


Last question: What do you think the dramatics and outrage are really about?



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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 05:02 PM
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1. I've been focusing on Afghanistan all year.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 05:15 PM
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3. and?
"all year" in an 8 year war?

I'm supposed to be impressed that one DUer might be able to say that?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 05:14 PM
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2. We're being called "warmonger" and
told we should go out and enlist if we back the President's exit strategy for Afghanistan because demagogic rhetoric is all they have.

I do think we all want the safest scenarios for our soldiers..as in when the bush people wouldn't give them proper protection in Iraq.

I know Obama cares deeply about our military.
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HopeOverFear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 05:48 PM
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4. not only that but he sent 21k troops in January
and no one said anything then. :eyes: nowthey'are acting all brand new and shit...foh
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 05:57 PM
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5. They must have had some other
poutrage that had their attention..and missed that important one.
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 07:17 PM
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6. It's just another chance for the Obama "dislikers"
to spew more crap. That's about it.
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CTLawGuy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 07:24 PM
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7. Many on the left have one mode
outrage mode, and it needs constant feeding.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:26 PM
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11. It's weird..I don't have anyone like that
in my life and if I had they wouldn't have been around long.
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JimWis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 07:42 PM
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8. Well said FrenchieCat. You have put into words some of the
thoughts I have had all day. These are some of the things I have heard and read of late.

If he puts more troops in - -
He is putting in troops to look tough to help his political career.
He is a war-monger.
He won the peace prize and now wants to escalate wars.

If he doesn't put more troops in - -
He is dithering.
He wants the US to lose the war.
He is a wimp.

So whatever he does, everyone will be pissed at him. In my opinion, he wants to end it and get us out the correct way. I make the assumption that to start and do this - he needs to get a few more troops in. I am sure he has a plan. He didn't start this damn mess, but he will do his best to clean it up. And I for one, support his efforts all the way.
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NYC Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 08:57 PM
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9. I did some math on it
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7128942

For 6 years nobody here gave a shit what went on in Afghanistan.

Now, suddenly, their heads are exploding and they're ready to kick Obama out of the WH for actually trying to do something there.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:34 PM
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12. Thanks, I went
over and replied.

Additional verification that they don't need any reason just the lastest poutrage.
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SeattleGirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 09:39 PM
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10. As someone downthread said, lots of them are addicted to outrage.
There WAS plenty to be outraged about during the Bush years. I think they got so used to it, they don't know how to act any other way.

It's getting mighty tiresome.

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NYC_SKP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-01-09 10:35 PM
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13. First, shouting doesn't take any work. Second, I think there's a Bell Curve thing going on.
It's a put down, I know, but I think it applies here.

All boards have their lower quartile and upper quartile and the big middle.

Often, the best and brightest post very seldomly (think H2OMan and the Magistrate).

And sometimes the louder (and more frequent) noises come from the lower quartile.

That's how it worked in my classrooms back in the teaching days.

NB: "Lower" can mean a measure of cognitive ability or interpersonal skills.

Today was a case study in the noise that can be made by a "differently-oriented" minority.

:P
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