Small task for Obama group - Hillary's speeches have long sounded similar to Kerry's

[blm]

from 2003-2004. Like when she's talking about healthcare and that people should get the same helathcare congress gets. That was definitely a Kerry line.

And also the line about American know how and inventing our way out of oil needs.

If someone has some sort of Lex-Nex or access to speeches that would put the 'plagiarism' attack out to pasture.

[Connie_Corleone]

1. All the Hillary paid supporters have their talking point this morning.

They're worse than the RNC, handing out their little talking points for their minions to carry all over the media and blogs.

[blm]

2. I know - that's why I'm pointing out HER riffs stolen from Kerry's speeches.

I wouldn't have cared, and would have kept on thinking how smart she was to borrow from the biggest Dem vote winner in history, but now her team wants to attack Obama for borrowing a line or two, even as most ALL politicians do? Nope - she shouldn't get away with it.

[ginnyinWI]

3. one that comes to mind right away:

The "All Hat, No Cattle" line. Kerry used it about Bush right after the RNC Convention I think.

[TayTay]

4. This is a silly line of attack.

Gov Patrick ran a classic outsider campaign for Governor in 2006 in Massachusetts. He was and is an incredibly gifted public speaker who had to ask people to take a leap of faith in him in order to get their votes. That is a classic outsider campaign. Bill Clinton did this in 1992. He was an unknown Southern Governor who lacked national recognition and who had to persuade people to go along with him, despite his lack of national credentials. Back then, he "still believed in a place called Hope." Now hope is 'just words" and somehow diminished because other voices have said similar things. I beg to disagree.

This is a silly fight and shows a sort of desperation on the part of the HRC campaign. Hope, as an issue, goes back to the very founding of this American Republic. It was hope that lead farmers and tradesmen to believe they could wage a wage with the greatest power on earth in 1775 and win. It was hope that said to women that they would one day get the right to own property in their own names and be able to vote. It was hope that sent young and old alike into the civil rights movement to believe that discrimination, cruelty and subjugation could be overturned. We are a nation founded on hope, it is in our blood, it infuses our founding documents, gives spirit to our proclamation of a bill of rights for all our citizens. Hope is what you have left when everyone and everything says that it can't be done and people do it anyway.

To claim that hope and the belief in "just words" is somehow unique to Deval Patrick or Barack Obama degrades our American tradition. Hope is the American birthright. Claiming that it belongs to one person or can be bottled up as the property of one campaign is wrong. Hope is what drives this country, hope is what we have been missing under the Bush Administration and what we want to restore to this nation. Shame on those who think of hope as a commodity that can be traded away or locked up simply because it has been used before. Of course it has been used before in America. Hope and a faith in one another is what built this country. It doesn't belong to one person, it belongs to all of us.

I worked for Deval Patrick as a town co-chair in MA on his Governor's campaign. Yeah, he ran on hope and yeah, he hasn't enacted everything he set out to do into law yet. He has a ways to go. But I will tell you this, I cried on the day he was inaugurated Governor. I cried when he put his hand on the http://www.mass.gov/Agov3/docs/html//inaug_bible_pr.html">Amistad Bible, the book given to John Quincy Adams by the prisoners that Adams had defended and freed from bondage, I cried because what was happening in front of me was hope fulfilled. It was sweet and warm and I don't regret one single second I spent on that campaign nor do I regret a candidate who promised me hope. Heck, I see greatness in another candidate who is promising me hope. And I'm there, cuz I know that things begin, not end, with hope.

Yeah, sometimes they are "just words." Maybe others have said similar things, including the Dem candidate for President in 1992, but those "just words" echo the mighty words that have always moved this nation. I want to hear them again, I want to feel I am a part of something greater than myself, I want to believe. I want that hope, over and over and over again. Hope comes first, then belief, then action. That is how things get done. That is how we will change this nation.

[MBS]

5. lovely , Tay. . I hope that this silly line of attack backfires.

I especially loved your conclusion:

I know that things begin, not end, with hope.

. . .those "just words" echo the mighty words that have always moved this nation. I want to hear them again, I want to feel I am a part of something greater than myself, I want to believe. I want that hope, over and over and over again. Hope comes first, then belief, then action. That is how things get done. That is how we will change this nation.

The thing is, comparisons between Deval and Barack are misleading, despite their similar life stories, their friendship, the campaign manager they have in common,and their positive message. The most important thing is that Barack is in a MUCH stronger political position than Deval, since Barack has a long record of political and legislative experience to go along with the oratory, the aspiration and the hope.

It's so clear to me that Barack is by far the superior, and the classier, of the two Dem presidential candidates. . it's gotten to the point, after a month of political ugliness, where I'm having a really hard time understanding why people would even vote for Hillary.

[blm]

6. I know - I actually had no qualms that Hillary 'adopted' alot of Kerry's phrasings

because it proved that he had the right approach all along and that it was undeniable even to the Clintons.

For them to launch this attack at Obama after lifting so much of Kerry's phrasings and framings, well....to me it's just obnoxious.

[ginnyinWI]

10. I think it's actually insulting the voters to say "don't have hope"

It's saying we are being fooled by someone with empty rhetoric. And that she's the grownup setting us straight.

I don't know any adults that like to be told that they are thinking like children.

[Dr Ron]

7. Post on this Clinton attack at Liberal Values and Carpetbagger Report

The post is up at Liberal Values:

http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=2926

I'm waiting a short time to post it at Carpetbagger Report as another post went up there just as I got this ready and I want to spread them out a little.

[MBS]

8. thanks, Dr Ron--"nonsense" is the perfect word to describe this

Nice post at Liberal Values, including the response by Obama.
Seeing Obama mention that he'd written two books reminds me of the complaint by HRC's ghostwriter for "It Takes a Village" that HRC didn't acknowledge her writing contributions to the book. .

[sandnsea]

9. Hillary's use of Obama's words

That was what he referenced in the news report. I recall her using "Fired Up" in Nevada. I know there have been some others that came straight out of his campaign. Maybe that's the way to go. I have to go out this afternoon, will check more later.

[beachmom]

11. Ah, the Gods at barackobama.com were on it, BLM:

http://factcheck.barackobama.com/factcheck/2008/02/21/clintons_borrowed_lines.php

Clinton, Speaking About Her Health Care Plan, Said "If It's Good Enough For Congress, It's Good Enough For Every American To Have Those Same Choices." Clinton: "I figure if it's good enough for members of Congress, it's good enough for every American to have those same choices at the same affordable cost."

Ø John Kerry Noted That Bush's Line About The Medicare Bill Could Also Be Used To Describe His Own Health Care Plan, "If It's Good Enough For Their Congressman And Sentors To Have Choice, Seniors Ought To Have Choice." John Kerry: "My health care plan's not an empty promise. Bush used that very plan as a reason for seniors to accept his prescription drug plan. He said, if it's good enough for their congressmen and senators to have choice, seniors ought to have choice. What we do is we have choice. I choose Blue Cross/Blue Shield; others choose other programs. But the fact is we're going to help Americans be able to buy into it. Those that can afford it are going to buy in themselves. We're not giving this away for nothing."