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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-31-10 10:43 PM
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I'd be interested to hear thoughts on my analogy re. President Obama's strategy against the GOP
Edited on Sun Jan-31-10 11:15 PM by Turborama
I posted it as a reply in another thread and I'd be interested to hear if you guys think I'm going along the right lines. I'm considering posting it as an OP in one of the main forums, any critiques or general comments would be greatly appreciated...

I'm starting to think that maybe he's been using the combat strategy of http://www.shenwu.com/taichi.htm">Tai Ji Quan "Entice (the opponent) to advance, (cause the opponent to) fall into emptiness, unite (with the opponent) then throw (the opponent) out" all along.

Entice = attempts at bipartisanship.

The fall into emptiness = the party of "no" obstructionism, insane teabaggers at town halls/rallies representing their party, sitting on their hands at the SOTU when he was talking about punishing the banks etc.

Unite = the invitation and following smackdown at the retreat. This seems to have had a very positive effect, as can be seen in a lot of the recent posts in GD (like http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x7605387">this one for example).

Throw the opponent out = what he's said in the weekly address quoted above, and hopefully following through with it.

He and Axelrod are smart enough to think along those lines, as was seen in the strategy they used during the 08 election when McCain's poll numbers rose after he pulled Palin out of his hat. Everybody got pissed that he was taking all their shit lying down and wasn't punching them on the nose for it. I remember Facebook was crawling with concern trolls at the time (that's where I did a lot of online campaigning and it was quite tiresome). We all know what happened next, the Obama team pretty much let them "fall into emptiness" (when we saw the psychos at Palin rallies and when Palin exposed her own emptiness etc etc) The country "united" against them and Obama "threw them out" of office. This strategy is where the "multi dimensional chess" analogy originally came from.

My take is that David Plouffe has come in and said "It's beyond time you kicked some Republican ass!". I could be wrong and maybe the last week's episodes of taking them on were just a flash in the pan, but it'd be sweet if it really is a definitive shift in strategy and what he said in his weekly address means that he really has drawn a line in the sand.

Also, see http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=385&topic_id=429519&mesg_id=429934">this reply for backup links.

(edited to add missing embedded links)
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Feb-01-10 12:02 AM
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1. Yes, they are smart enough..
You have to be to win against craven corporate all consuming power.

I know they always have to be thinking of strategies to get their message out without much help from the corporatemedia and they passionatley care about actually helping the people of this country..and how are they going to do that if the cons grab the national message with their lies getting drummed into the conciouness through hateradio, fauxnooze, and the shills on cnn?

You've certainly thought about this..Their(our) enemy is quite a bit more complicated than one opponent so disruptions and delays are expected..but, President Obama is focused and no matter how many unavoidable surprises block a path to success..they'll just take another one until they get what they want.

David Plouffe is excellent at what he does and I'm glad he's back.
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 02:16 AM
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2. Thanks for your feedback, Cha
Edited on Tue Feb-02-10 02:26 AM by Turborama
In a nutshell, I guess what I was trying to say was that President Obama and his team seem very adept at letting their (our) enemies implode with their own negative/sociopathic/psychotic/misanthropic (you get the picture) energies. A "four ounces of strength against a ton of force" kind of thing. That's where the Tai Chi analogy originally stems from.

The GOP, Faux news, Limbaugh et al think that's what the majority of the population want but they're wrong. They don't. In fact, most people are turned off by the sort of crap they get up to.

Another thing I've been witnessing from 'our side' is that a lot of people still haven't taken the paradigm shift from the last administration to this one. Hence all the "meet the new boss" crap that really infuriates me. Busch did a lot more than damage the country, screwing up the environment and international relations etc. He also succeeded in destroying any respect and/or trust some might have had previously for the Presidency. IMHO.


BTW Have you seen the YouTube Q&A session I added to the videos forum yet? It's had 1,205 views in 2/12 hours but only 2 comments.
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 02:32 AM
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3. You've said it!
"He (Bush) also succeeded in destroying any respect and/or trust some might have had previously for the Presidency. IMHO."

IMHO too!

Truly sad what he did.
In that sense, he won!
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-03-10 01:45 PM
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5. Right on both counts~
The fauxsn00ze/gopers want the majority to think that way and do their best to brainwash the masses and succeed with some..a la the teabaggers.

I was thinking at the time the teabags were out in force that the White House was letting them run their course when so many were yelling for them to do Something!

I don't know if they haven't taken the paradigm shift or just act like it..either way that's what they project because the facts don't support their soundbytes.

Thanks, Turbo, for all the vids you link to in PVs. A veritable treasure trove!
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-02-10 11:32 AM
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4. Do you do Tai Chi Turbo?
Don't know if I can liken Obama's politics to Tai Chi but I've been studying Tai Chi, Bagua, and Hsing Yi for a decade.

Tai Chi to me is about explosive power. Bagua is about coiling and striking on the move and Hsing Yi is about structure.

But I digress. :)
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:39 AM
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6. +1
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-04-10 09:57 AM
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7. and now there are calls for more Q&A sessions--
and Obama isn't acting too eager. If he did, the GOPers would certainly oppose, but if he acts reticent they will clamor for it.

He's so much smarter politically than that crowd. In additon to that, he's got reality and truth on his side. They are left with delusions and lies on theirs.
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