The Mercury Link.

[Kajsa]

I just received this from a friend.

It really points out how skewed and political some so called
"objective" research committees are out there.

And now, with Congress allocating a billion dollars
towards research, it's damn criminal not to
further research in this area.

Check it out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQYISvsgq6s

[bloom]

1. I watched the series.

I had heard a lot of that - but not all of it.

[hunter]

2. Although I'm certain mercury exposure is a bad thing...

... especially as it relates to pollution from coal-fired power plants, I'm not at all certain that focusing on this issue as it relates to autism is a positive thing. Sure, get rid of mercury in vaccines and dental fillings and paint and so on because mercury is hazardous in many ways beyond any alleged relationship to autism, but you can't really hang onto mercury toxicity as a crusade specific to autism without distracting from problems of more pressing concern.

It's likely my own prenatal and early childhood exposure to mercury was, for various reasons, exceptionally high. But I also have a strong family history. Both my grandfathers were engineers of the very eccentric sort. They were lucky to have marketable obsessions but both of them crashed and burned after they retired because they'd never learned how to define themselves without their careers. What was eccentricity when they were working became simple madness when they were not working.

I myself am very uncomfortable with the heated emotional arguments surrounding this issue. The "Mercury Link" does not inflame me, and I find it upsetting that people are using this issue as a battering ram in pursuit of other agendas. My own paranoia is always hungry, but I do my best not to feed it. Problems like this must be approached with a clear head.

[bloom]

4. Genetics and other factors.

I think that it's likely that mercury has a role. And I agree that at the very least - there is no point in putting mercury in things like vaccines and teeth.

I can also look at a history of family members with high memory levels and low social comfortability. And I know that a lot of people want to just figure that nerds are nerds and they don't need to be called "Aspies" or some other thing.

But what I think - is when you put that in context of the numbers. If there are a lot of other people like my daughter - who are not merely math geniuses with low social comfortability - but also have a myriad of sensory issues, obsessive tendencies, are esp. literal and inflexible (some things that overlap with people traditionally associated with autism), then you have to wonder if it isn't more than just eccentricities. And when large numbers of the population are becoming "eccentric" (with many similar sorts of issues) - then it seems like it makes to look for a reason.


There are always some people that that's going to be their focus. Finding the cause. And I don't have a problem with it. It makes more sense to me to follow where the trail leads than to not look.

[hunter]

5. I don't think more people are becoming eccentric.

I think society is becoming less accommodating of eccentricity.

Even in my lifetime work has become much more competitive and conformity has become much more important. You simply don't get a job if you go to an interview wearing odd clothes and sporting an unusual work history.

More than twenty years ago I was asked to take time off from college, twice, but on my third try I graduated with a very respectable university degree.

These days I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have been so fortunate. They would have booted me out for good after my first misadventures -- the implication being that I was taking the seat of someone who could do the work without getting into bizarre sorts of trouble.

When my grandfather was working (judging by the stories my grandmother told) he could lock himself in his office for days at a time, not shaving or showering, and eating only donuts and drinking coffee brought to him by three shifts of tip-toeing assistants, and that was okay by his bosses because they'd dump some intractable problem on him and he'd come up with a solution.

Today it's very likely a person like my grandfather would be perpetually unemployed.

[bloom]

6. "a person like my grandfather would be perpetually unemployed"

Well, one of my grandfathers, an engineer, did become "perpetually unemployed" later in his life (like when he was about 45-50+). That would have been in the 50s to the 70s. I don't know that that time was all that accommodating. (Just like now - there would be variations).

Into the 60s men wore hats with their suit and ties and women would have had to have worn dresses for most jobs - and there weren't very many options available, anyway. Much conformity.


The late 60s to 70s kind of loosened things up - and there are still places now where people can be less conformist (like I think that Universities - at least some of them - can be pretty tolerant of eccentricity). It seems that the 80s and the corporate influence tried to put an end to that.

The company I used to work for - was started by a bunch of hippies - and they were very loose about their style and everyone else's. Then they sold it to a big corporation where all the executives wore dark suits. I swear to whomever there is to swear to that they laid off all of their more creative people - so that rather supports your viewpoint.

Or at least - the world of large corporateness is not friendly to creative, eccentric behavior. And that is what so much of America has become. I think it's a national tragedy.

And I think if this country is serious about getting more math and scientists (like politicians say from time to time) that the country needs to get over this conformist obsession. I blame a lot of it on the advertising culture as well - the reflection of corporatism.

[hunter]

7. My grandfather retired on a very high note...

...as an engineer on the Apollo Project.

I go to the Smithsonian and see the Apollo 11 command module and I feel like "Wow, my grandpa made parts of that."

It was the work he was most proud of.

But certainly, the opportunities my grandfather had were denied many. My wife's grandfathers, who were certainly as intelligent, came to the United States as field workers and laborers. That's what you did, especially if you were Mexican.

And if you were a woman...

[yankhadenuf]

14. Aspies are not nerds

I agree, the Aspie term has gotten totally out of control because it is truly a form of autism , not just an eccentricity ... some have even pointed to Dan Akroyd and Bill Gates as "aspies" which is totally laughable.
Nerds, wallflowers and computer geeks are NOT Aspies!

My son has been diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome after four days of neurological testing , so I know from firsthand experience that true Aspies have a Pervasive Developmental Disability and have many "Rainman"-like symptoms. The basic difference is that Aspies can talk, and classical Autistics were mainly mute in their early life, if not their whole lives.

Considering that I am a chatterbox and his Dad was voted most popular in high school, we can pretty much eliminate the "genetic factor" ;o)

[yankhadenuf]

8. I was pregnant near a toxic mercury paper mill

The mercury is in the environment through not just vaccines and dental fillings, but also through massive coal-fired power plants and paper mills. Studies have shown that autism rises around these coal-fired power plants and mills because they emit toxic mercury into the air and water systems. Pregnant women should not eat fish for this reason. To neglect the cause of autism is to neglect autistic people altogether, and future generations that can be prevented from getting autism in the first place. Autism has turned into a national crises because the numbers are rising drastically, and those "numbers" are our children!

I was pregnant near a toxic mercury paper mill. My son was born with Asperger's Syndrome. Knowledge is power , and I want to know what caused my son's form of autism. It will alleviate a lot of un-necessary guilt that burdens parents to know that is is NOT their faults. Autism spectrum disorder parents have a 75%-80% divorce rate, so this knowledge of the TRUE causing factor may even save some marriages!

The CDC is an agency that most parents of autistic children do not trust because they have done everything possible to hide the truth from the parents... the CDC is actually protecting criminals in my book!

Even government studies say that fish get mercury poisoning from waterways polluted by paper mills, but why doesn't the CDC say this?:

http://www.epa.gov/glnpo/bnsdocs/hgsbook/paper.pdf

[yankhadenuf]

9. How Mercury causes Neurodegeneration (brain degeneration) video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VImCpWzXJ_w&mode=related&search=

Please note that this scientific research study on the effects of mercury on the brain was done at the University of Calgary in CANADA:

http://www.ucalgary.ca/

What does CANADA have that the USA does not have (grants to do REAL research?) , or should I say what does the USA have that CANADA does not (hidden agendas, neoCONS, lobbyists, etc.)

[yankhadenuf]

22. Please email this YouTube to your Reps and Senators!

How Mercury causes Neurodegeneration (brain degeneration) video


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VImCpWzXJ_w&mode=related&search=



Please note that this Youtube was posted in 2006, yet some of the actual microscope film is dated 1999 and even in 1993. Who is hiding this information from Americans? And WHY?

All American parents of autistic and Asperger's children , please email this Youtube link to all your Representatives and Senators in Congress !

[yankhadenuf]

23. University of Calgary in CANADA

Original Source: http://movies.commons.ucalgary.ca/mercury/

[yankhadenuf]

24. Mercury damages nerve cells

http://www.ucalgary.ca/~gauntlet/eg/news/stories/20010329/news05.html


"...Mercury is a known neurotoxin, but it wasn't known why until the publication of paper...."

[yankhadenuf]

25. Thank U of C professors Fritz Lorscheider and Naweed Syed !

Their contacts in this link:

http://movies.commons.ucalgary.ca/showcasetv/mercury

[yankhadenuf]

34. Please send thank you cards to the "Canadians of Calgary" !!!

The three members of the research team from the University of Calgary, CANADA, that accomplished this amazing, irrefutable research "How Mercury Causes Brain Neuron Degeneration" are:

F. L. Lorscheider O8)
C. C-W. Leong O8)
N. I. Syed O8)


I have only found contact information for two of them (and one of the email links bounced back to me) :

http://movies.commons.ucalgary.ca/showcasetv/mercury

So I wrote Dr. Lorscheider, Mr. Leong, and Dr. Syed individual thank you cards in care of the University of Calgary at:

http://www.ucalgary.ca/cgi-bin/seek

University of Calgary
2500 University Drive NW
Calgary, Alberta, Canada T2N 1N4
[phone]

PS I found a link about Mr. Leong, he was actually an undergraduate at the time ! :

http://www.ucalgary.ca/~gauntlet/eg/news/stories/20010329/news05.html

[yankhadenuf]

35. Thank you card~

Dear Mr. Leong,

I understand that you were an undergraduate at the time of the University of Calgary, Faculty of Medicine, Dept. of Physiology and Biophysics research study "How Mercury Causes Brain Neuron Degeneration" .

I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for your great, amazing work with the research team of Dr. Lorscheider and Dr. Syed !!!

My son has Asperger's Syndrome (a rare form of autism) and your research finally gives irrefutable validation to all autistic and Asperger's parents that mercury causes autism. I was pregnant near a toxic mercury-emitting paper mill.

There are no words to adequately express how grateful I am to you, Dr. Lorscheider and Dr. Syed for your valuable time and energy to find answers for so many people and to prevent mercury toxicity for so many more future generations.

Best Wishes and Happy New Year!!!

[Deja Q]

38. And also consider mercury leakage is worse in the garbage can of the world...

"undeveloped nations" who are now being "developed".

Finding a cure to ensure a longer lasting cheap workforce in the future? Or altruism for the sake of it?

[hunter]

3. BTW, Dr. Boyd Haley is...

...oh, I'm very sorry I went spelunking through that.

My clothes may need some sort of expensive chelation therapy if I ever want to wear them again.

[yankhadenuf]

10. You are confusing Dr Haley with J B Handley

Autism is indeed caused by mercury as Dr Haley has researched.

Autism canNOT, however, be "cured" , including by "chelation".

J B Handley is a quack promoting and selling "chelation" quackery to desperate and loving parents.

[hunter]

11. Sorry, I'm not.

Boyd Haley latches onto the fear of the day and then he promotes it so he can sell stuff to either test for it or treat it, all without any sort of realistic clinical trials. If you call him on his bad science he and his supporters immediately imply you are trying to silence him for some ulterior motive. (Yep, that's it, I must work for the coal industry or something...)

I believe mercury toxicity is a very serious problem, and I strongly suspect mercury aggravates a great range of neurological problems, but Boyd Haley's theories are at best speculation, and at worst deceptive.

[yankhadenuf]

12. Did you watch the Canadian study from U of Calgary?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VImCpWzXJ_w&mode=related&search=

Is Canadian science "bad science" too? Frankly, if any agency has bad science regarding mercury, it is the CDC. Most industrialized nations have eliminated thermisol from vaccines, except of course the USA, because CDC says so.

This research from the University of Calgary in Canada confirms what I know, that my pregnancy near a toxic paper mill caused my sons Asperger's Syndrome ( a rare form of autism). Paper mills had coal-fired plants back then. Go figure... I don't trust the paper industry anymore than the power industry to have cleaned up their act totally. There must be mercury residue in their mills from years, maybe even decades, ago. Not to mention the waterways the paper mills have polluted , that gets to humans, including pregnant women, by way of the fish (I ate a lot of local catfish and rock shrimp near the paper mill too... obstetricians did not warn us back then).

On the other hand, I accept treatments for him of course: meds, gluten free/cassein free diet , Melatonin to help him sleep at night, group therapy with other Asperger's , but none of this will "cure" him of Asperger's of course, but we parents are obligated out of love and necessity to alleviate their symptoms so they can have as normal lives as possible.

BTW, what industry DO you work for? And are you a parent of a child with autistic spectrum disorder?

[hunter]

20. Mercury is bad. Yes.

I'm self employed. Mostly I'm a stay at home dad. I write code and fix computers, but not for any industry even remotely related to mercury pollution. In spite my eloquence here (heh), I'm very, very quiet in real life, and I'm diagnosed with a variety of things that require medication. Without meds I'm pretty damned useless.

My family tree is a snake nest of autistic spectrum disorders. My dad's father, my grandpa, was on the very edge of social functionality -- if he hadn't been an engineer he would have been unemployed. Two of his siblings were not functional, they could not work most of their lives, and were supported by family and social services when they were not working. When they were working they preferred jobs that had little or no contact with strangers, jobs that most people would regard as mind-numbingly repetitive. My mom's mom was the same way. (Much of her family history of mental illness is hidden.) My mom's dad was an obsessive-compulsive-alcoholic perfectionist who eventually killed himself.

I have the crappiest genetics for autistic spectrum disorders and other mental illness that you might imagine. Half my relatives, including myself, are loons. (It's this kind of humor and self reflection that keeps us going.) I've got a couple of nieces and nephews I'm keeping an eye on. Within our extended family they are pretty normal, but they strike outsiders as pretty odd. It would be awful if they suffered the hells I've been through. My life in school especially was not pleasant.

I think every issue of mental illness is unique, and treating it requires a lot of casting around for something that works. The traditional approach in our family has always ranged from denial, which is very harmful at times, to an intense sort of practicality, which probably explains why these bad genetics continue to propagate. But we are all very cynical and skeptical of any explanations or the latest treatments, most of which come and go. Usually when someone tries to explaining what's wrong with us, they turn out to be wrong, and far too many "treatments" have actually made things worse for somebody. It rarely helps to blame anything but stupid bad luck.

I hope you find some kind of peace with your son. That's the most important thing. I always hated that feeling that I was making my parents crazy.

[yankhadenuf]

21. Asperger's Syndrome is not a mental illness

It is a Pervasive Developmental Disability.

Autism is basically a form of neurological damage, while mental illness is more of a chemical imbalance.

[hunter]

27. What's the difference?

The nomenclature is rife with false distinctions. Why would it be important to you that it was a PDD rather than a "mental illness?" Is it because you somehow consider PDD less of a "bad" thing than a "mental illness?"

And what do you think the difference is between some form of neurological "damage" and a "chemical imbalance?"

What is the importance of finding a reason to you?

I think my mom was always looking for something to beat herself over the head with, like maybe she could have done something differently. It really wasn't helpful.

In my own family history it is very clear that something genetic is going on, and for me, it would have been nice to know this family history directly, and not to have so much covered up. It's like nobody in our family thinks it's unusual for someone to get a college degree in mathematics or something similar, and then spend the rest of their life alone in a tiny studio apartment listening to the radio.

[yankhadenuf]

30. For accurate diagnosis

There is nothing good or bad about either... it is a matter of correct diagnosis.

As a Mom I went through 22 years of mystery because Asperger's was not taught in American medical schools until 1995.

He was misdiagnosed in public school as Emotionally Handicapped. That was just considered a "behaviorial problem" not a disability, so he was labelled with bad behavior even though he was a genius.

For three years between the ages of 19 through 22 he was misdiagnosed by an ignorant psychiatrist with schizophrenia (a common misdiagnosis for Asperger's ) , and my son was given the WRONG MEDS which caused his hand tremors.

Of course there is a genetic connection in autism, it happens in mostly males. As far a hereditary reason I would be open to the prospect, but me and his Dad are clearly not Asperger's (and therefore do not have our sons qualities such as a pure innocent way of looking at the world and we are not art geniuses either.)

My son was finally evaluated correctly in 2003 with Asperger's by a neuropsychologist who gave my son a variety of tests for four days. Now my son is on the correct meds! And he is getting his government entitlements and disability transportation. AND , most importantly, he meets frequently now with other adult Asperger's and they relate to each other! And I started a social club for adult Asperger's , and they all have fun together! It is a rare syndrome , so they come from a three counties to meet together.

Why do I want to know what caused it? Because he is my child and I will do anything that I can to find out how it is caused and how to help his life be better.

[hunter]

31. I could have done without the "genius" label.

Big deal, some of my obsessions coincided with things considered "genius." Oooooh... I started building computers in the sixth grade! But I could also spend hours examining my own skin looking for hairs that were not quite right, and plucking them out. Same disorder, different focus -- one is considered genius, the other derangement.

In school I was in the "gifted" program. Freak. I could get an "Outstanding" in the subject, and an "Unsatisfactory" in behavior. I'd be rocking, rocking, rocking, in my chair... or something like that... and the kid next to me would smack me because I was so irritating, and then we'd be rolling on the floor fighting.

What served me better than any specific diagnosis were practical approaches. Aspergers wasn't on the table when I was a kid, and most everything else was witch-doctor stuff.

When I was a little kid I had speech therapy, and some sort of "movement" class -- a class where they sent all the clumsy kids. We had a nice teacher, and we were supposed to move like she told us to. We played "Simon Says" and other games, like picking things up off the floor and putting them in a designated basket. I still can't play Simon Says worth a damn, a situation that often delights small children, and frustrates my wife while I'm driving and she's trying to give me directions. I seem to be much less capable of turning a verbal directions into physical action than most people.

When I was a kid I was terrified of the telephone. I wouldn't answer it, I wouldn't talk to anyone. When I was a teenager this started to be a big problem, and there were actually some serious consequences after I'd not been able to take messages. So my mom had to basically train me how to answer the phone and take a message, even if I didn't want to. It was a long process... my grandma put a lot of effort into it, and my first girlfriend got me to the point where I was competent enough to use a telephone at work. (I loved jobs like furniture moving and such that didn't involve telephones -- this was long before cell phones.) My wife polished my telephone skills to the point of normalcy.

But what kind of genius is it to require extensive training to use a simple telephone? Most people just pick the damn things up and talk!

I think what bothers me most about the genius label is that there are so many kids who have obsessions and compulsions that do not coincide with anything that society sees as "genius" and they have much more difficult lives in comparison to those that do.

Maybe it's just me, but seeking "what caused it" seems sort of academic. Mercury is BAD for a whole lot of reasons, and a conclusive association with these sorts of disorders only adds to a list of well established horrors.

[yankhadenuf]

32. Have you been "officially" evaluated yet?

It helps to know the exact diagnosis for a better quality of life!

[hunter]

33. Yeah, I can't dance. There's a medical term for that, but I forgot.

I can say stuff like that because I'm crazy.

Seriously, for reasons I won't explain here, I enjoy extraordinarily competent mental health care.

But in the past, some of my experiences with "exact diagnosis" have turned into excruciatingly painful misadventures.

I've recently decided to be more forthcoming about these things. Maybe someone else who finds themselves only pretending to be human will find it within themselves to reach out to others and seek help.

[yankhadenuf]

36. Abilify

My son takes it ... it is a remarkable med with VERY stabilizing effects. He takes Prozac for the depression.
These two meds are recommended by his psychiatrist who deals with several Asperger's in his practice... he came highly recommended from the neuro-psychologist who correctly evaluated my son.

[bleedingheart]

13. my son's asperger's is the result of genetics

I won't say that mercury isn't bad or that it might not play some role...but my husband, his father and I think the grandfather were all Aspies...and then couple that with the fact that my Aspie husband married me...and I am an engineer and come from a somewhat OCD family...boy...what a genetic combo.

[Deja Q]

39. And as population grows, chance of developing things is higher too...

Especially, in your case, when the genetic link is incontrovertible.

It may be the same in my family, to an extent, also.

[yankhadenuf]

15. Autism, mercury, and politics

"The Boston Globe

ROBERT KENNEDY JR.
Autism, mercury, and politics
By Robert Kennedy Jr. | July 1, 2005..."

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/editorial_opinion/oped/articles/2005/07/01/autism_mercury_and_politics/

[mzteris]

16. different kinds of mercury

I copied this from another DU'er in another thread a long time ago. I don't remember who exactly - ..... but it's important info to be aware of.

&&&&&&

Methylmercury is the most dangerous kind. It's an organic mercury compound, and also the type found in the environment. It's what contaminates fish, water, the air, etc. It's also very difficult to expel from the body, thus it hangs around and causes damage.

Ethylmercury is another organic mercury compound, but it's eliminated from the body much more readily than methylmercury. Thimerosal is metabolized by the body into ethylmercury.

And finally, elemental mercury is when the mercury atoms are not locked up in a compound but are free. If you drank the contents of a mercury thermometer, you'd be ingesting elemental mercury. Not a smart thing to do, but elemental mercury is actually very poorly absorbed through the digestive tract. Elemental mercury is far more readily absorbed in the form of inhaled mercury vapor.

As with most substances, it's the form and dose that determine toxicity. Table salt is made up of a dangerous metal and a poisonous gas. Yet we eat it with almost all our foods - how dangerous!

[yankhadenuf]

17. Mercury Evaporation and Vapor (video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA6dIKesq7s

[yankhadenuf]

18. Mercury mines and Austro-Hungary

This is just my own theory, but I find it highly coincidental that Hans Asperger of Austria discovered "Asperger's Syndrome" right next to the country Slovenia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slovenia


The town of Idrija is located in Slovenia, which was the location of the second largest mercury mining industry in the world at one time, for about 500 years:


http://www.matkurja.com/projects/idrija/


According to the above link:
"A complicated geological fault system necessitated digging of deep pits (recently reaching 400 meters), and fighting large quantities of intruding water. This made Idrija a center of technological innovation for centuries, attracting many famous people from Austria and other countries, and an important part of the scientific endeavor in Slovenia throughout its history."


Did these families bring their pregnant wives and small children with them to the second largest mercury mining center of the world? Was the "genetic factor" actually discovered with families in Austria by Hans Asperger because perhaps their families were exposed to such high content of mercury toxicity? At the time of Asperger's studies, technology was extremely limited, and he was only studying the unique behaviors of these children and their familial connections.

This is a question of which came first, the chicken or the egg, the environmental impact or the genetic factor? I've often wondered what causes genetic factors.

[yankhadenuf]

37. Interesting note about Austria's and Spain's mercury miners

(Remember, Hans Asperger discoverd Asperger's Syndrome in AUSTRIA!):


http://www.dentistrybiological.net/mercury.htm

"History of Mercury
16th century- miners working in mercury mines in Austria and Spain die prematurely due to neurological
problems,.."

[yankhadenuf]

19. Republican Congressman knows CDC is covering up mercury toxicity! (videos)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tfsNfuLUD4&mode=related&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daCDv5JmoeY&mode=related&search=

I hope this gets out because if just one Republican says it's true , then there can be bi-partisan committees against mercury pollution and vaccines and we can ALL tell the CDC where to go. In fact, the CDC should be shut down and another agency should be started from scratch that is BY the people and FOR the people (and not bought off by industry polluters and Big Pharma lobbyists).

[bloom]

26. "Environmental chemicals that provoke oxidative stress...."

Environmental chemicals that provoke oxidative stress could contribute to autism or other health problems

During a typical day children and pregnant women are exposed to many different types of environmental chemicals that cause oxidative stress. These exposures add up, creating special concerns for infants and small children due to age-related sensitivity that derives from naturally low glutathione levels. This natural age-related vulnerability is exacerbated in individuals with impaired glutathione ratios. If these children were exposed to a high dose of any compound that produced significant oxidative stress, they would be less able to detoxify and excrete the compound.

Pervasive environmental contaminants like air pollutants from power plants and auto exhaust, pesticides, heavy metals and food additives all produce some degree of oxidative stress. Fine particulate matter and diesel exhaust both provoke tremendous oxidative stress and deplete glutathione (Li 2002). Oxygen radicals wreak havoc in the lungs of asthmatic children. The pain reliever acetaminophen and alcohol both provoke oxidative stress, but their combined effects are much more potent than either chemical alone.

Exposure to the pesticides maneb and paraquat can push neuron cells already under oxidative stress over a threshold of toxicity and "act as an additional insult to the system and prevent the normal recovery of defenses" (Barlow 2005). Researchers have concluded that maneb disruptions to cells might cause neurodegeneration "especially with concurrent exposures to other environmentally relevant oxidative stressors, such as paraquat" (Barlow 2005). When they dosed pregnant mice with these pesticides the male offspring showed permanent alterations to neurological systems and enhanced susceptibility as an adult to paraquat (Barlow 2004)....

http://www.drgreene.com/21_1894.html

[yankhadenuf]

28. Mothers Against Mercury

http://www.momsagainstmercury.org/contact.htm

[idgiehkt]

29. thanks everyone for the wonderful links on this page, these are

great.