Sibel Edmonds and the flawed 911 Commission

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

Run time: 08:39 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-owdhJK5nk   Posted on YouTube: January 04, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: January 07, 2008 By DU Member: Mr_Jefferson_24 Views on DU: 3497

 

[seemslikeadream]

1. Sibel Edmonds: KILL THE MESSENGER

Sibel Edmonds: KILL THE MESSENGER

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1991080575212848283&q=Kill+the+Messenger&total=334&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

7. That's one of the more effective...

...presentations of Sibel's story I've seen -- thank you for posting it.

The commentary of one viewer posting as Phaeton:

My allegiance is yours Sibel(le), your account could be
the catalyst for achieving critical mass, godspeed.

I believe as the Sibel Edmonds case goes so goes our nation -- we permit this Neocon cabal of criminals to bury her at our peril.

[enough]

9. Yes, thanks for posting this video (Kill the Messanger). I have been looking for a good overview

of her case and that does a good job. The connection with the Plame case made near the end is also very interesting.

[seemslikeadream]

32. Have you seen this thread?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=2619735&mesg_id=2619735








They Thought They Were Free - Read by Dave Emory

The Germans, 1933-45

Excerpt from pages 166-73 of "They Thought They Were Free" First published in 1955

By Milton Mayer

But Then It Was Too Late

"What no one seemed to notice," said a colleague of mine, a philologist, "was the ever widening gap, after 1933, between the government and the people. Just think how very wide this gap was to begin with, here in Germany. And it became always wider. You know, it doesn’t make people close to their government to be told that this is a people’s government, a true democracy, or to be enrolled in civilian defense, or even to vote. All this has little, really nothing, to do with knowing one is governing.

"What happened here was the gradual habituation of the people, little by little, to being governed by surprise; to receiving decisions deliberated in secret; to believing that the situation was so complicated that the government had to act on information which the people could not understand, or so dangerous that, even if the people could understand it, it could not be released because of national security. And their sense of identification with Hitler, their trust in him, made it easier to widen this gap and reassured those who would otherwise have worried about it.

....

"Yes," I said.

"You see," my colleague went on, "one doesn’t see exactly where or how to move. Believe me, this is true. Each act, each occasion, is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one great shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join with you in resisting somehow. You don’t want to act, or even talk, alone; you don’t want to ‘go out of your way to make trouble.’ Why not?—Well, you are not in the habit of doing it. And it is not just fear, fear of standing alone, that restrains you; it is also genuine uncertainty.

"Uncertainty is a very important factor, and, instead of decreasing as time goes on, it grows. Outside, in the streets, in the general community, ‘everyone’ is happy. One hears no protest, and certainly sees none. You know, in France or Italy there would be slogans against the government painted on walls and fences; in Germany, outside the great cities, perhaps, there is not even this. In the university community, in your own community, you speak privately to your colleagues, some of whom certainly feel as you do; but what do they say? They say, ‘It’s not so bad’ or ‘You’re seeing things’ or ‘You’re an alarmist.’



Michael Parenti - Terrorism, Globalism & Conspiracy

"Coincidence Theory: By shear chance things just happen repeatedly and coincidentally to benefit their interests without any conscious connivance by them, which is most uncanny. There is also: Stupidity Theory, Innocence Theory, Momentary Aberration Theory, Incompetence Theory, Unintended Consequences Theory and Innocent Cultural Proclivities Theory."

- Michael Parenti

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

33. I had not seen that one -- thank you. nt.

[Bolo Boffin]

2. This was deleted the last time it was submitted for 9/11 CT crapola.

Why did you submit it again?

[MrMickeysMom]

3. um... let's see...

... because it was a political video?

[Bolo Boffin]

10. When the moderators and administrators delete your "political video" once...

...why submit it again?

That sounds like spamming.

[MrMickeysMom]

25. When DU moderators decide to delete ...

such videos, let's hope it's something THEY decide to delette INSTEAD of

... something DU moderator "wanna be's wet themselves over.

Sheesh... :eyes:


"Oohhh! Quick! Over Here! Over Here!"

[Bolo Boffin]

29. They deleted it once before.

Congratulations. You guys lied enough about this film to get it onto the front page. I hope you're all proud of spreading utter bullshit here at DU.

[seemslikeadream]

4. This story is on the FRONT PAGE of the Sunday Times

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3137695.ece?Submitted=true


It should be allowed to stay here

[go west young man]

5. After Edmunds revelations it is definitely time to reopen 911.

A new investigation should be put together immediately. there is obviously much more to the story than what the american people have been told.

[seemslikeadream]

6. These women need to be listened too

The story is on the front page of The Sunday Times,

For sale: West’s deadly nuclear secrets
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3137695.ece?Submitted=true



Sibel Edmonds and other Whistleblowers Group
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=344

[KoKo]

12. Time to let this out of the closet...it's not 9/11 Crapola...but information that

is coming out of the lockbox now that Pakistan is a BIG PROBLEM and going to be dumped in Dems Lap!

Clean it out NOW! K&R for Sibol's TRUTH OUT!

[Bolo Boffin]

13. Yes, this video is. Casazza made a crappy CT claim about knowing the date and time

and gives a shout out to 9/11 CT schlockmeister Richard Gage in the video.

It was deleted once. It's going to be deleted again. Quit spamming the boards with these cuckoo theories!

[defendandprotect]

14. It's not logical to believe that fascists come to power without political violence ---

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

8. I think a fairly compelling case could be made for...

...criminal prosecution of ALL major U.S. media outlets who knew of Sibel's story, but chose to cooperate with the Neocon criminal cabal and bury it.

MSM does not own the public airwaves, the people do. We need to find some effective ways to remind them of that.

[Bolo Boffin]

11. Oh, the hell it is.

You posted this because of Casazza's CT claim about KNOWING THE DATE AND TIME of the attack, which is utter crap.

[defendandprotect]

15. Why . . .

are you so threatened by Sibel Edmonds reports --- ???

[Pastiche423]

16. If you told him grass is green

he'd call you a comspiracy theorist.

It's best to ignore him.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

17. Truer words never spoken -- thank you. nt.

[Pastiche423]

19. You are most welcome

I've been reading his bs for years. He has "issues", know what I mean?

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

22. Yes. nt.

[Bolo Boffin]

20. There is evidence that grass is green. n/t

[hamuli75056]

24. Grass is Yellow-Blue

:-)

[pberq]

27. Thanks for alerting everyone to that fact. nt

[Bolo Boffin]

21. What evidence do you have that I am "threatened" by anything? n/t

[MrMickeysMom]

35. um... your breathing? n/t

[MrMickeysMom]

26. !!!

:cry: "A-ah...wah! Why can't they make ME a mod!!!"

[bobthedrummer]

18. Thanks for posting this.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

23. You're certainly welcome...

...For anyone who might have missed the "Everybody Knows" video, it's a good one:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=DHnIyGWEz_Y

[pberq]

28. Thanks for posting this

One way we can tell that Sibel is not some crazy conspiracy theorist is the lengths the administration has gone to gag her.

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

34. That's true -- What she's got is undoubtedly absolutely devastating for some...

...of the most powerful people in the country.

[MrMickeysMom]

30. Kick it again, kick it again... harder... harder...

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[wildbilln864]

31. Thank you Mr_Jefferson_24 K&R!

http://antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=12166">link
:hi:

[go west young man]

36. 911 Press For Truth video explains so much.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3979568779414136481&q=9%2F1...

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

37. Great stuff from one of our own...

http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2818.shtml

[wildbilln864]

38. kick! n/t