Hillary Clinton Laughs About NAFTA

[waiting for hope]

Run time: 01:31 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBypp2hqxaQ   Posted on YouTube: November 16, 2007 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: November 17, 2007 By DU Member: waiting for hope Views on DU: 4896

 
How many more jobs are we the people going to allow to leave the county?

Thank you David Sirota.

[jgraz]

1. "How many more jobs are we the people going to allow to leave the country?"

Just one: Junior Senator from New York. :evilgrin:

[waiting for hope]

2. You are so bad!

:spank:

[be inspired]

8. Oh, come on. Surely a few more.

I can think of some other people in Washington that need to lose their jobs, too. But the Junior Senator from New York should definitely NOT be promoted.

[MethuenProgressive]

46. Clinton laughs about Ross Perot - Edwards spinners twist it as laughing at NAFTA

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3731700

[HughBeaumont]

3. No, I MUST dislike her because of her gender.

It couldn't POSSIBLY be because of her less-than-democratic positions on free trade and job offshoring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhLBSLLIhUs&feature=related

Or the Middle East.

Or Single Payer vs Big-Insurance Health care.


:eyes:

[Jim Sagle]

4. K & R & FNA!

[jgraz]

5. Wow, I was hoping to see Edwards for President at the end of that

This is the kind of thing that Hillary's opponents should be hammering on, especially in Iowa.

[waiting for hope]

6. David Sirota is an

Edwards supporter but also has championed for the working class - you should check out his blog over at Working Assets: http://action.credomobile.com/sirota/

[jgraz]

7. Ah. I didn't catch that Sirota had done the video

Good for him. He's been a great voice for real progressives.

[Tom Joad]

9. may her future be in some white shack, next to a polluted river, making

48 cents a day for some US corporation exporting goods to walmart.

[FreeState]

10. She's laughing at Ross Perot not NAFTA NT

[doc03]

17. No, she made a joke about Ross Perot

to avoid the question, "Was Ross Perot right about NAFTA?" It was also very apparent the audience was packed with Hillary supporters. Wolf Blitzer should had made it clear at the beginning that audience reaction to the candidates would not be tolerated.

[FreeState]

19. right - she was laughing at Ross Perot n/t

[doc03]

21. And she never answered the question

[FREEWILL56]

23. Hahahahahahahahahahaha

is an answer. It means screw you I won't say because I answer to nobody. That means she won't answer to us as pResident either.

[doc03]

24. That's the way I interpreted it. She is another

free trader just like her husband and the Repugs. She does the same with Iraq and Iran, she votes to support Bush* then tries to weasel out of it. I think if she is our nominee we are going to lose either way the election goes. I feel if by chance she does win it will be like the elections of 2000 or 2004. We don't need someone that may have a chance we need someone that can win by a large majority otherwise we won't get anything accomplished.

[Evergreen Emerald]

57. actually she did answer the question...the poster did not post her response.

[bvar22]

26. And Ross "gets the last laugh"...

where NAFTA is concerned.

Ross gets the Last Laugh.
Clinton gets the Corporate Cash.
The Working Class gets The Shaft!

[TheFarseer]

38. what did she say after that? n/t

[rhett o rick]

11. We the people have no choice. We the people are f******. nm

[asdjrocky]

12. Jobless people are funny!

Give me a break. Check some of my posts of late... I love the sound track to the clip!

"Meet the new boss, Same as the old boss"

We will not be fooled again!

Go Edwards!

[creeksneakers2]

13. Another distortion about Hillary.

They asked her about Ross Perot. She made fun of that. She wasn't laughing about NAFTA.

[durrrty libby]

15. They are blinded by hate and can not comprehend

[gtar100]

63. I'm not blinded by hate and can comprehend

If Hillary Clinton wins the democratic nomination, I will be voting for her because the alternative is far less tolerable. It's not hate, it's dislike of her stance on issues. Period.

Now there's not enough information in this video clip to make a clear judgment on what she stands for, but there certainly is from all her speeches, all the debates, and her web site. Having her as president would only be, in my opinion, a slight course correction when we need a *drastic* correction to keep from sliding into a depression or at best have yet another four to eight years of corporate greed making the policies of how we should be investing ***OUR*** money, ie, our tax dollars.

[madrchsod]

18. it`s not very funny to people who have lost their jobs

on both sides of the border after her husband signed nafta into effect....i case she forgot -ross was right.

BLITZER: You say national security is more important than human rights. Senator Clinton, what do you say?

CLINTON: I agree with that completely.

[creeksneakers2]

20. When it gets to a point, I agree with her

If an election in Pakistan was likely to put people in office who wanted to use nukes against us, I'd hope we could fix the election. I only agree when its a dramatic case like that though.

[1932]

22. That she made a joke at all about an issue Democrats should think isn't funny is the issue.

Do you think people who have lost their jobs or, if they're lucky to still have one, haven't seen their wages go up at all since '92, would free associate the word "NAFTA" with a joke about Ross Perot's charts? And what do you think union members think about that faux naivete from Hillary? Do you really think all that was just a blurry memory? Is that her approach to NAFTA? She's going to pretend that she wasn't really paying attention to the debates about it back then?

Good luck with that.

[kenfrequed]

29. Oh right...

Because Hillary is CLEARLY anti-NAFTA.

Please...

[Madam Mossfern]

35. Actually

They weren't asking her opinion of Ross Perot, they were asking if perhaps he was right about NAFTA. I sould have appreciated a sincere answer to that. Her "All I remember is charts" remark was incredibly Bushesque.

I was insulted by her laughing and her response showed absolutely no respect for the very pressing issue.

[cynthia]

14. won't get fooled again!

no way

[durrrty libby]

16. But you have been fooled again because you did not comprehend

[Evergreen Emerald]

25. are you people really that desperate that you twist even this

It is so obvious that she was talking about the debate with Perot--remember? Where he had all the charts?

What the hell is wrong with you?

[FreeState]

28. Democrats acting like Republicans

its a play right out of Carl Roves book - make up an issue where there is none and distort it so much that people will believe the headline. Anyone watching the debate knows she was not laughing at NAFTA, workers or anything like that but rather Ross Perot.

[Truth2Tell]

30. Democrats acting like Republicans

by kissing up to corporate interests and exporting jobs.

That's the Rovian play that bothers me.

[FreeState]

31. Both bother me n/t

[earth mom]

34. Wolf asked Hillary if Perot was right about Nafta. She laughed at the messenger-Perot-INSTEAD

of discussing the MESSAGE which was NAFTA and JOB LOSS! What Hillary did was TOTAL BULLSHIT!

What the HELL is wrong with you that you don't understand that?!

[Madam Mossfern]

36. So she could avoid answering the question

which was about NAFTA. I do sense other people's frustration here. I hate to say this but by reading some of these threads, I have the odd sensation that speaking to a Hillary supporter is similar to speaking to a Bush supporter. I have much experience with the latter as I live in a Republican town.

[samwoman]

44. Are we desperate? Yes! For a qualified and sensitive candidate!

The hell that is wrong with "you people" is that she belittled a very serious issue--even if she did it unwittingly, she should know not to try to be cute anywhere near an issue that has had such dire consequences for so many Americans--and continues to...!

And referring to "you people" and "what the hell is wrong with ", is certainly your right to do-but does little to inspire a serious or intelligent response, and does much to illuminate your lack of seriousness and intelligence.

[antigop]

27. As long as people continue to vote for corporate Democrats, the problem will continue n/t

[rodeodance]

32. OH JOHN, I WISH YOU HAD NOT DONE THAT!

[waiting for hope]

45. He didn't - David Sirota did the

video. This is not from the campaign.

[HughBeaumont]

47. Yeah, why are people continuing to insist this is from the Edwards campaign?

Dave Sirota did this video. NOT Edwards.

Hillary does a fine job proving herself a corporate mouthpiece Vichy Dem all on her own.

Keep failing, "Hillraisers" (GOD what a stupid name . . .)!

[durrrty libby]

33. Laughing at NAFTA? Wow you people are silly and clueless

[Madam Mossfern]

37. No

[ihavenobias]

40. Why?

Please explain.

[DiverDave]

39. OH YEAH,VOTE FOR HER...then we LOSE!

She is KRYPTONITE!
Why does the repuke machine want her?
Because they know they can BEAT HER!!

Just amazing you all are falling for roves crap...AGAIN!


I wont vote for her, and will actively campaign against her nomination...she will LOSE.

[durrrty libby]

41. ...

:rofl:

[DiverDave]

64. Oh, how original

That'll show me,huh?

The reasoning is truly mind boggling...

[HughBeaumont]

49. This is how Ohio voted for a decorated war veteran who volunteered to be a moving target.

All of that grey represents Bewsh supporters.

Now, can anyone imagine ANYthing changing should the former First Lady named "Clinton", someone who everyone in them grey areas have been trained to hate since 1993? Someone who is unapologetically free trade when Ohio has lost so many jobs (6,800 last month, in case anyone was asking) these past 7 years? Someone who wants to continue this war up past 2013? Someone who still wants Big-Insurance health care?

If anyone thinks Hillary, who realistically is going to divide the left and center (and it's unbelievably naive to think she won't), not pick up fence sitters and mobilize every backwoods, hellfahr 'n' brimstone rapture-right nutcase out from under their porch steps in droves for the sole purpose of "stickin' it to them anti-Murkin commeh Clintons once and fer all!!!!", is going to turn Ohio . . . My GOD they need to wake up and smell the damned coffee.

[gemdem]

42. Add my job and another 100 or so to the count

My managers informed us recently that my job and another couple hundred like it will be going to India during 2008 and 2009. With the glut of IT professionals on the market, I'm likely looking at a severe pay cut. Nothing like starting over after 25 years of building a career.

Keep laughing Hillary... It's all so freaking hilarious. :sarcasm:

[antigop]

48. Here are some more videos to watch: HRC,H1-b's, and outsourcing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhLBSLLIhUs
Hillary pushes for more h1-b visas and outsourcing

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLNOSGM2jK4
Lou Dobbs: Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 1)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgdrh2Bc95M
Lou Dobbs: Hillary Clinton's hypocrisy (part 2)

[roxnev]

43. Are you look to work for T. Boon

If you are going to attack Democrats at least tell the truth.

[libbygurl]

50. Ridiculous - get the story straight - she was laughing at Perot, not NAFTA, as others have ...

...already pointed out, and like so many other anti-Clinton MSM stories, this post just distorts the real sequence of events. Watch the debate again, please.

[ihavenobias]

51. Ok, Let's Say The Laughter Is Irrelevant

which it may be. Her stance on trade (pro-big business, screwing the middle class, to distill it and put it bluntly) *is* relevant.

[Madam Mossfern]

52. And she didn't answer the question

did she?:yoiks:

[Up2Late]

53. Oh PLEASE give me a HUGE BREAK!!! I'm SO Sick of seeing this RW, MSM, Anti-Clinton Crap posted here!

O.K., One more time for those here who where still in Elementary School and for any of you Old folks who seem to have memory troubles,
:rant:

PRESIDENT CLINTON DID NOT SIGN NAFTA!
GEORGE H.W. BUSH DID!
LOOK IT UP!

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Free_Trade_Agreement>

History of the implementation

NAFTA was initially pursued by conservative governments in the United States and Canada supportive of free trade, led by Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney, U.S. President George H. W. Bush, and the Mexican President Carlos Salinas de Gortari. The three countries signed NAFTA in

:hi:December 1992,

:hi: subject to ratification by the legislatures of the three countries. There was considerable opposition in all three countries, especially among intellectuals who stated that it was an ill-conceived initiative. In the United States, NAFTA was able to secure passage after Bill Clinton made its passage a major legislative priority in 1993. During his presidential campaign he had promised to review the agreement, which he considered inadequate. Since the agreement had been signed by Bush under his fast-track prerogative, Clinton did not alter the original agreement, but complemented it with the aforementioned NAAEC and NAALC. After intense political debate and the negotiation of these side agreements, the U.S. House passed NAFTA by 234-200 (132 Republicans and 102 Democrats voting in favor, 156 Democrats, 43 Republicans, and 1 independent against).<5> and the U.S. Senate passed it by 61-38<6>

And Hillery was the future FIRST LADY at the time, NOT a Senator or a Candidate, was she really supposed to come up with a "Universal Heath Care" plan AND Organize the opposition to NAFTA too during her husbands Presidential Campaign?!? Give me a break!

And where's the rest of her Answer to this question?!? :shrug:

Do you even have a transcript that shows what was actually said, this tells me nothing except that some people here have a really screwed up agenda to help the RW Corporate Media POSs destroy ALL the Democratic candidates by asking these stupid loaded questions, which have no good or easy answers, so they can hand all the Clinton haters out in Blogger world plenty dumb video clips to edit into the latest Clinton attack ad.:banghead:

And Btw, it's thanks to davidsirota, NOT David Sirota!
It looks like a Impostor YouTube account to me. If it was really David Sirota that ran that page, he would most likely have more personal info listed and a link back to his blog or website! Hell, I could probably make a denniskucinich YouTube account and start posting videos about how much I love Midget Porn, but that doesn't mean I'm actually Dennis Kucinich! It's very easy to create an impostor YouTube account. :rant:

[waiting for hope]

54. If you took an actual look -

"And Btw, it's thanks to davidsirota, NOT David Sirota!
It looks like a Impostor YouTube account to me. If it was really David Sirota that ran that page, he would most likely have more personal info listed and a link back to his blog or website!"

This is from that account - and it's referecning his book "Hostile Takeover" and has the link to his website. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68-BnriAzTQ

[Up2Late]

55. So what!?! That proves nothing!

All that proved is that it's a very clever person running an impostor page at YouTube! Show me a link back to his website or on his website where he links to this YouTube page and I might begin to believe it's him.

Sorry, I've been on YouTube and MySpace and Facebook and AOL too long to believe something like that page without some sort of link back to the guys web page or blog, I get dozens of "Friend Requests" on MySpace and YouTube every week and most of them are not real people, or at least not the person they say they are, they make it very to easy at YouTube to set-up an Impostor page.

[waiting for hope]

56. Bite me -

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota

On Edit - you really need to get out more.

Double edit - http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/video-clinton-thinks-naf_b_72948.html - there's the link to the actual Huffington Post blog entry by David Sirota.

[Renew Deal]

58. I don't think this is really fair.

She was laughing at a funny question, not at NAFTA and not at American workers. The question was "Was Ross Perot Right?" The crowd laughed as well.

[waiting for hope]

59. "Was Ross Perot Right?"

He was right - how is that funny?

[Renew Deal]

60. Because of the context that preceded it.

It was asked in a funny way. You can spin all you want, that will not change that there's nothing here. BTW, I do not support any of the candidates.

[waiting for hope]

62. No, it wasn't asked in a funny

way - here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x70538

I really don't think Blitzer was joking. Put all the spin on that you want, but she does intend to "expand NAFTA" - http://commonsense.ourfuture.org/breaking_clinton_announces_support_nafta_expansion and her upcoming vote on the Peru FREE Trade agreement is more of the same. There is no spin there and really, How is that funny?

[slipslidingaway]

61. Was Kucinich right on the China bill? Cute Dennis, cute! How

many jobs were lost to China and what effect did that have on the increased trade imbalances?

It does not serve the American people to discuss just one of these bills IMO while downplaying others that have caused harm to this nation's workers.