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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 12:23 PM
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Syria bombing a mystery
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Have any US Congressman asked questions of what US involvement was concerning Israelis bombing of Syria?

do they already know?

And why is Syria so silent?

Is this about the Big Secret Revealed by Kucinich?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jS29XtZaX0k

Does Bush have to get permission to bomb a country or has Congress given him permission silently behind closed doors?

Is Bush's speech where he tells Americans about upcoming WWIII? Happening?

Were we looking for WMD in Syria like IRAQ? Did we find them? What was US involvement in the incident? America is surprisingly silent lately.

Its a mystery?
A compilation of pictures of the incident ...like I said I'm a video documentar
US media where are you???
ABC but where are the other channels
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 12:31 PM
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1. Where is everybody? I think this "bombing" is very mysterious
and un-nerving. I guess the American people are now accustomed to the secrecy of the administration.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 12:32 PM
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2. Syria hasn't been silent.
They said that the Israelis bombed an unused building owned by the Syrian military.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 12:34 PM
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4. Shouldn't Syria be ticked off and be retaliating
they seem silent on not retaliating back after being bombed

If we were bombed we wouldn't be silent
we would retaliate instantly

Syria hasn't retaliated WHY?
thats what I meant by silent

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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 12:48 PM
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7. You know some countries just aren't up to speed on their intelligence
Edited on Sun Nov-04-07 12:48 PM by seemslikeadream
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 12:48 PM
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8. Possibly because retaliating would only escalate things.
Personally, I'm inclined to think that if the Israelis really did bomb anything of value, the Syrians would be much more up in arms about it. Even if it were actually a nuclear facility, Syria would get a lot more play and worldwide sympathy out of describing it as an unjustified attack on a peaceful research center for nuclear power. Just look at the situation with Iran, where despite them being FAR more volatile and crazy-ass than Syria, they've still got a lot of people saying hands-off. The only way I could see value in saying that nothing happened is if you had actual live nukes that were bombed, and you knew that the other guy could prove it, in which case I can't see the Israelis going with this vague nuclear facility claim.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 02:18 PM
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10. Good point Wraith Syria maybe going for the sympathy
factor... I just wonder why its necessary to report US involvement with helping "pinpoint dropping sites" had to be reported in our news and yet US has been silence on the issue...

Let Israel do it on their own why even bother including US in report

It implies to me Israel did it and US helped attitude

is this necessary or is this Bush ramping up incidents to propel us to WWIII?
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Andy Canuck Donating Member (234 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 01:18 PM
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9. Syria does not have the military capability to retaliate.
Syria's military, for the most part, is two-three generations behind Israel's. If Syria attacked the counter attack from Israel would be fierce and highly destructive to Syria.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 02:20 PM
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11. So Syria is too weak to fight back
it sure looks like it doesn't it

are they weaker than Iraq was when we went in looking for WMD cause Saddam's response was pretty weak
whats your thoughts?
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:31 PM
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20. They don't have the bomb... so... uh...
retaliating against Israel or the USis kind of out of the question
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:56 PM
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22. Syria has bombs and missiles
airforce and troops

if they want to they could retaliate

now if your talking about nukes
I believe you might be right

Now Hamas is Syrian backed and they fought the war in Lebanon which Israel didn't do so well in even after they cluster bombed it

I seriously am clueless at why Syria hasn't retaliated
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heliarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-06-07 06:00 AM
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23. Sorry that I wasn't clear...
When I said "the bomb" I meant nuclear armament. I think you will agree that a Hamas attack is easily distanced from Syrian foreign policy with however thin a veil. That veil is still necessary for any of the non-nuclear countries to wear since Israel has ultimate retaliatory power in the form of nukes. I would think Syria CAN'T respond without seriously jeopardizing their relatively neutral position politically. No one wants to bring this one out in the open... Even the israelis were saying they jettisoned fuel tanks... just so happened those "fuel tanks" happened to destroy a very particular building that we are all scratching our heads about.
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CGowen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 05:36 PM
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14. They had the Pantsyr-S1E and I don't know how it performed
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 09:11 PM
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15. Well what ever Syria's defenses they didn't work very well
and I think that has to be very troubling for Syria and Iran

and Russia
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 12:47 PM
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6. Oh yes Israelis bombed an UNUSED BUILDING
;)
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 02:22 PM
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12. And no casualties
it seems like a dream

Fly over the border bomb a building take some satellite pics and call it a raid with US friends help

Mission accomplished
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index555 Donating Member (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 04:43 PM
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13. The claim is it was the beginnings of a nuclear facility
I saw a "before and after" satellite pic in an article on MSN about, the second was about two weeks afterwards.
The strange thing about it was how quick Syria was to bulldoze the entire thing over, I mean literally, in the "after" pic, all that is left is a patch of fresh dirt, you can see a nearby water pumping station, the river, (just like the "before pic) and some earth moving equipment, and nothing else.
Why was Syria so quick to bury it? and why didn't they protest more loudly?
It's possible that Syria started to build a nuke plant, then put it on hold, or abandoned the project.
Perhaps they decided it was too expensive, too provocative, or too vulnerable(which it obviously was).
Perhaps they simply started it just to see what Israels response would be.
Syrias reaction could also be that they found it embarrassing that Israel could fly in so easily and bomb something.

Why wouldn't Israel ask for intelligence data, if they thought it could help them?

Syrias reaction was rather interesting, either it was no big deal, or they are(were) hiding something.
just some thoughts.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 09:16 PM
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16. Oh you can bet they are hiding something
Russia hasn't said anything either

I'm not sure about Turkey
one story says the complained of violation of the air space and then another said turkey gave the ok

Russia is very quiet too

I believe this was a test of defenses and a Big Warning to Iran and Syria
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 12:34 PM
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3. Waiting for Pakistan?
What is our government waiting for in Pakistan?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 12:37 PM
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5. It looks like Cheney wanted Mushareff out
and Musharef doesn't seem to be leaving

Good question?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-04-07 11:00 PM
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17. #5
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 09:47 AM
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18.  U.N. questions Syria nuke claims
Thhe U.N. nuclear watchdog said Monday it has no information to support a recent media report that Syria may be building a nuclear reactor, but said it expects any country that has details to share them with the agency.

"We would obviously investigate any relevant information coming our way," said Melissa Fleming, spokeswoman for the Vienna-based International Atomic Energy Agency, or IAEA.

In what appeared to be an indirect rebuke to the U.S., Fleming said in a statement that the nuclear agency "expects any country having information about nuclear-related activities in another country to provide that information to the IAEA."

The New York Times, citing U.S. and foreign officials, reported Sunday that an Israeli airstrike on Syria last month targeted a partially built nuclear reactor that was years away from completion.
more...
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/10/15/israel.syria.ap/index.html
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plantwomyn Donating Member (779 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 11:10 AM
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19. Saw a comment on C-Span
that the Israelis totally shut down Syria's defenses. The Syrians have "the latest" Russian technology. They aren't talking about it because they don't want to admit they were blind! I'd guess that Russia isn't very pleased either. Isreal used U.S tech to shut down Russian tech. I'm sure everyone who bought Russian technology is freaking out right now.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-05-07 07:48 PM
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21. I think your right and notice Iran is silent too
the comforting news is that our military technology is superior here

Its very interesting

All that money they spent to Russia on weapons that are useless

Russia has gotten a wakeup call too
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