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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:15 AM
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Obama to Clinton: Stop Playing the Victim
 
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:17 AM
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1. ha ha----come on Obama------you can do better than repeat RW talk show talking
points can't you?
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:18 AM
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2. Apparently he can't...
...after all, he feels right at home with nutjobs.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:22 AM
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3. R/W talking points? What are you talking about? nt
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 11:33 AM
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9. Sorry, Obama scored points on this one. Hillary is self districting. nt
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MethuenProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 02:26 PM
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11. Who writes this stuff? Karl Rove? Bill O'Rielly? Ann Coulter?
Is Obama trying out for the GOP VP slot?
McCain/Obama '08??
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:33 PM
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13. RW? No as hillary is crying fowl when pressed for real answers.
When she has none she throws the gender card out and as Obama said he didn't throw out any race cards when being pressed for answers. What the hell will she do when she's up against the real foes to her, cry?
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D23MIURG23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 08:56 PM
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16. Where the hell did you pull that one from?
This is the worst non-sequitar I've seen out of a Hillary supporter yet, and that is stiff competition.
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Tellurian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 10:42 AM
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19. Didn't Obama use the excuse for his poor performance
in the debate before last that 'he had a cold...and wasn't feeling very well'? <sniffle>

and the very next day, Obama held a rally in Times Square acting like he was King of the World at his fundraiser?
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Justyce Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:26 AM
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4. HRC is not my first choice, but this just isn't cool IMO.
I also wasn't wild about when he said he "couldn't tell whether she was for it or against it" or something like that, also sounded republicanish. As I said, I'm not one of the big Hillary supporters here (Edwards is my first choice), but I don't think Obama is scoring any points this way.
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:38 PM
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14. she hung herself
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:56 PM
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20. Why is it that every other candidate can make mistakes but Clinton
must be flawless?
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:34 AM
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5. The title of this OP is misleading. Obama doesn't say anything like that.
Watch the piece.

PB
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insanad Donating Member (286 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 12:31 PM
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10. On Message
Edited on Fri Nov-02-07 12:32 PM by insanad
Matt Lauer is part of the media players that want to get our candidates to argue over petty silly gaffes or inuendos. I believe Barack Obama's response was appropriate and fair and he reitterates that if SHE wants to play with the BIG BOYS, she needs to be willing to recieve critique on her policy, opinion, or lack thereof. He would have directed any level of controversary at another equal opponent, black, white, rich, poor, male, female, or even an alien if they managed to rise to the top. (I'm not inferring that Kuchinic(sp?) is an alien but he is an irritating but smart sprite). Of anyone who can be the pot calling the kettle black, Barack can. He has not once raised the "Race" card but has responded gracefully to many of those who try to trick him up in it. His response when asked if he is more black or white is patently, "I feel more AMERICAN" because of my diverse backgrounds. He represents the best in all of us, male or female, black or white or any shade in between.
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FREEWILL56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 03:47 AM
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18. It's spelled KUCINICH
and if you would indulge me here a bit, I'd be curious how you think he's irritating let alone the rest of the description you have placed upon him?
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Evergreen Emerald Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 03:25 PM
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21. please..that again shows how much of a fine-line she has to walk
The truth of the debate is that it was an all out attack on Clinton. Edwards and Obama were served the attacks on a silver platter by the propaganda machine we call the media. And if she dares to tell the truth about what happened, she is playing the gender card.

He is and never has played with the big boys. She, on the other hand, has lived with these attacks since her husband ran for president.
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ccpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 10:57 AM
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6. this reminds me of what
little Ricky Lazio tried to do after that embarrassingly bad debate performance he had against Clinton in 2000. I haven't watched the video, but Obama's response should be along the lines of "that's really not something I want to talk about. I'd rather spend my time with you discussing the issues" Kind of like what Hillary does when asked about her Opponents.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 11:08 AM
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7. Be like me, be brave and play my CARD HA HA
which you can't say anything about, or they would call you racist....
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info being Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:39 PM
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15. I'll say it
Obama has the same chance Hillary has of being elected President. It isn't good. And it is because he is black. The two of them will self-implode.

So if Gore doesn't run, we are left with a choice between Edwards and Kucinch IMHO.
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JAbuchan08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 11:21 AM
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8. I agree with Obama on Hillary
but what's with the leading question by Lauer?
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jillan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-02-07 05:23 PM
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12. Well said!!
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Bullet1987 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 12:20 AM
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17. Anybody who's saying Clinton isn't playing the gender card is being dishonest
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-03-07 03:51 PM
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22. Very well put Obama! If you can't run with the big dogs...
...don't get off the porch. Playing the victim is very much against what she supposedly "stands for", and it doesn't become her now.
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