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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 01:44 PM
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Bye-bye Gaddafi, Welcome Al-Qaeda?
 
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When the MIC lost the USSR as its "evil" counterpart it needed a replacement. So they simply took one of their understudies (who were one group of Reagan's "freedom fighters" back then) and made them into "the new evil bad guys." And voila' the war money kept rolling in. However, with Al-Qaeda failing so miserably for them in Iraq and then later in Afghanistan they needed some fresh bodies to aim at. And here we are with fresh targets in Libya.

- And the war economy rolls on......
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 01:50 PM
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1. "Goodbye my sweetheart, hello Vietnam"
Your title brought that song to mind.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 01:59 PM
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2. Vietnam, one more stop we must make on our Karmic cycle..... n/t
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 03:50 PM
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4. I had the same feeling. /nt
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 04:10 PM
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8. Vietnam?!? Stop that nonsense: alCIAda is not an army.
Edited on Sat Aug-27-11 04:45 PM by Amonester
They're just a bunch of thugs.

Dangerous thugs, yes, but thugs nonetheless.

Comparing that with Vietnam is ridiculous and it serves no one. :spank:

Once convicted of crimes, alCIAda thugs belong in jail (albeit, jails without any 'enhanced interrogation bullshit' a la cheney).
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If they're taken alive........................... and that 'job' needs to be outsourced to Interpol (+budget hikes to do their jobs).
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Does not apply to #1 & #2's
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 05:37 PM
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9. well, let's see
we've been 'fighting them over there' for longer than we were in Vietnam.

I agree, they're a non-standard military organization, and that they should be treated like criminals, as such it is not a military matter.

And I don't need a lecture from you, thanks.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 06:10 PM
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10. the RW started it while they should never have, and even less for
Iraq. We* will never stop demanding it to end, though, until that demand is met.

Thank you.


*(I'll contribute since I can't go there.) http://www.october2011.org/welcome
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 03:04 PM
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3. Let's see how Libya does before crying disaster.
We owe them at least that much after the years they spent under Qaddafi.
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 03:53 PM
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5. It's not like a huge secret for whom Al Qaeda works and has worked in the past

What is slowly emerging from Al Qaeda activities in Central Asia in the 1990s is the extent to which they involved both American oil companies and the U.S. government.<1> By now we know that the U.S.-protected movements of al Qaeda terrorists into regions like Afghanistan, Azerbaijan and Kosovo have served the interests of U.S. oil companies. In many cases they have also provided pretexts or opportunities for a U.S. military commitment and even troops to follow. <snip>

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=209x2193
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 10:49 PM
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11. Another more recent article on this topic by Peter Dale Scott
Bosnia, Kosovo, and Now Libya: The Human Costs of Washington’s On-Going Collusion with Terrorists

by Peter Dale Scott

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The pattern of U.S. collaboration with Muslim fundamentalists against more secular enemies is not new. It dates back to at least 1953, when the CIA recruited right-wing mullahs to overthrow Prime Minister Mossadeq in Iran, and also began to cooperate with the Sunni Muslim Brotherhood.3 But in Libya in 2011 we see a more complex marriage of convenience between US and al-Qaeda elements: one which repeats a pattern seen in Bosnia in 1992-95, and Kosovo in 1997-98. In those countries America responded to a local conflict in the name of a humanitarian intervention to restrain the side committing atrocities. But in all three cases both sides committed atrocities, and American intervention in fact favored the side allied with al-Qaeda.

The cause of intervention was fostered in all three cases by blatant manipulation and falsification of the facts. What a historian has noted of the Bosnian conflict was true also of Kosovo and is being echoed today in Libya: though attacks were “perpetrated by Serbs and Muslims alike,” the pattern in western media was “that killings of Muslims were newsworthy, while the deaths of non-Muslims were not.”4 Reports of mass rapes in the thousands proved to be wildly exaggerated: a French journalist “uncovered only four women willing to back up the story.”5 Meanwhile in 1994 the French intellectual Bernard-Henri Lévy (BHL) traveled to Bosnia and fervently endorsed the case for intervention in Bosnia; in 2011 February BHL traveled to Benghazi and reprised his interventionist role for Libya.6

In all of the countries mentioned above, furthermore, there are signs that some American and/or western intelligence groups were collaborating with al-Qaeda elements from the outset of conflict, before the atrocities cited as a reason for intervention.. This suggests that there were deeper reasons for America’s interventions including the desire of western oil companies to exploit the petroleum reserves of Libya (as in Iraq) without having to deal with a troublesome and powerful strong man, or their desire to create a strategic oil pipeline across the Balkans (in Kosovo).7

That the U.S. would support al-Qaeda in terrorist atrocities runs wholly counter to impressions created by the U.S. media. Yet this on-going unholy alliance resurrects and builds on the alliance underlying Zbigniew Brzezinski’s 1978-79 strategy of provocation in Afghanistan, at a time when he was President Carter’s National Security Adviser.

http://japanfocus.org/-Peter_Dale-Scott/3578
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 03:53 PM
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6. Newsflash 1: The war economy will continue to roll on....
Unless you and me work to start doing something to stop it from rolling.

And newsflash 2: The time-frame for achieving that goal is unknown yet.
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bbgrunt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-27-11 04:00 PM
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7. tangled webs of deceit we do weave.
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