John Stewart Bashes The Media Over Ron Paul

[EvilMonsanto]

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This is not about partisanship, it's about the War
Sorry warS, I had to pluralize that

They don't want Anti-War candidates to have any spotlight
Same thing happened to Dennis Kuccinich when he was running last race

[physioex]

1. I saw it last night.....

So there really isn't much difference between CNN and Faux. In the end, not only are Faux viewers misinformed but their own primaries are being manipulated.

[GillesDeleuze]

2. its not about the wars its about the fed

[EvilMonsanto]

4. Kuccinich Never Spoke of the FED

He only spoke of the war and he was also marginalized
Ron Paul got that idiot Newt speak against the FED

The FED is a major topic I agree
But I think the powers that be think it's too much of a complicated topic to be a threat

They are more against his anti-war stance in my opinion

But of course, you may be right

[GillesDeleuze]

6. googs

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en-US&q=kucinich+federal+reserve&rls=0.7.5&client=stainless&ie=UTF-8

[AtheistCrusader]

26. Did you even watch the debate?

It was ALL about foreign policy, principally the wars, but he's also referring to the CIA, and trade sanctions.

[GillesDeleuze]

40. yeah, played drinking games.

he took on santorum, but most of it was about the economy..

did you watch the debates?

[AtheistCrusader]

41. Yes I did.

And I've been arguing with my freeper/republican co-workers for days now, and their principle fear is his foreign policy.

They just cannot stand the thought of not sticking their big american dick into the affairs of other nations, and most of them want a president that will pound Iran flat.

Not a single one of them has brought up the economy, fox news watchers every one.

[reggie the dog]

45. pound iran flat? seriously?

we still havent won the wars in the countries to the east and west of iran and you co workers think that we could win a third battle in the country in the middle? i would actually like to see the usa invade iran just so we could be humiliated by defeat and then have to stop doing all these kinds of wars.

[AtheistCrusader]

48. Just listen to Bachmann.

She's pandering to them, promising to do 'whatever is necessary' to prevent Iran from getting a nuclear weapon. Sanctions are already on. She means war.

[reggie the dog]

54. war with what money and what soldiers?

at least we would loose quickly, there is no way the usa could win an open war against afghanistan, iraq and iran at the same time, hell they could not even win one of those.

[AtheistCrusader]

57. Exactly.

Doesn't mean she won't try though.

Iran could give us all KINDS of hell. Say goodbye to any carrier anywhere near them.

[Lars77]

67. Iran is four times as big as Iraq with a population of 75 million. Good luck.. nt

[slipslidingaway]

69. Iran, it is not just the Republicans, listen to what the Dem leadership says about Iran ...

and sanctions.

Paul has at least consistently said we are beating the war drums ... again.

What did the Secretary of State say about Iran, what did Obama say?

Bachmann is nuts that is a given, but what are the top Dems saying?

[leftynyc]

70. Ask them if they would

agree to a special "war tax". If not, call them unpatriotic scum.

[AtheistCrusader]

72. Hell yes.

Good idea.

[SergeyDovlatov]

3. I was surprised at ...

the uniformity of nearly all media in that respect. It is as if the media of all ideological stripes get together agreed on the narrative and then started delivering it.

I can understand Fox being an agenda driven network. MS NBC trying to lean left (or forward ;-) ).
But CNN, the network with no opinion of its own and NPR (fair and balanced (tm)) did the same.

I am stumped. Is it something they teach in journalism schools on how you should filter information from public so that they will make "The Correct Choice".

Help me out... I am genuinely confused.

[abelenkpe]

10. Uniformity in media is easy

Reporters are all employees of major media companies. But y'know Ron Paul doesn't think anti trust laws should be enforced so he must be fine with how easy it is to marginalize him.

[SergeyDovlatov]

13. what about NPR? is it because of corporate sponsorship?

[Dokkie]

17. What did NPR do?

[SergeyDovlatov]

19. identical 3 front runner coverage. Ron Paul with also-runs

[abelenkpe]

20. That'd be my guess

They've been leaning to further and further right since the Bush years and efforts to defund them. They do the same both sides are equal baloney too. Someone posted this quote here recently and I thought it did a good job summing up a large part of the problem with the MSM:

"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"
— Isaac Asimov

[bloomington-lib]

15. good point

[reggie the dog]

47. perhaps he thinks that informed people, using the net,

will simply marginalize the bullshit mainstream media?

[jakeXT]

12. couple of links

What Makes Mainstream Media Mainstream
Noam Chomsky
Z Magazine, October, 1997
http://www.chomsky.info/articles/199710--.htm

PROPAGANDA
By
EDWARD L. BERNAYS
1928
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/media/2006/10/119695.pdf

"If we understand the mechanisms and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing it... In almost every act of our daily lives, whether in the sphere of politics or business, in our social conduct or our ethical thinking, we are dominated by the relatively small number of persons ... who understand the mental processes and social patterns of the masses. It is they who pull the wires which control the public mind."

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country."

"We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized."

http://dedroidify.blogspot.com/2008/04/edward-louis-bernays.html

Good movie

Brian Springer - Spin
57:26 - 5 years ago
Using the 1992 presidential election as his springboard, documentary filmmaker Brian Springer captures the behind-the-scenes maneuverings of politicians and newscasters in the early 1990s. Pat Robertson banters about "homos," Al Gore learns how to avoid abortion questions, George Bush talks to Larry King about halcyon -- all presuming they're off camera. Composed of 100% unauthorized satellite footage, Spin is a surreal expose of media-constructed reality

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7344181953466797353

[slipslidingaway]

29. Great links - thanks for posting. n/t

[reggie the dog]

49. why are some of us immune to this?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country."


this explains why i feel surrounded by some kind of un human borg so often

[jakeXT]

59. Of course the internet changed the whole game

Now independent people, who in the past would have been weeded out from MSM and never be seen again, can go the internet and start their own shows without censorship.

But that could change some day in the future...


I still wonder how many people on the net really take the time to research things, I doubt there aren't that many.

[valerief]

65. We have smaller amygdalas and larger anterior cingulates.

Self-proclaimed right-wingers had a more pronounced amygdala - a primitive part of the brain associated with emotion.

It is an almond-shape set of neurons located deep in the brain's medial temporal lobe.

However, those aligned to the left had thicker anterior cingulates - which is an area associated with anticipation and decision-making.

It was commissioned as a light-hearted experiment by actor Colin Firth as part of his turn guest editing BBC Radio 4's Today programme but has now developed into a serious effort to discover whether we are programmed with a particular political view.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1342239/Brain-study-reveals-right-wing-conservatives-larger-primitive-amygdala.html#ixzz1VJqMoZJP

[JohnyCanuck]

34. Read "Into the Buzzsaw"

Full title: Into the Buzzsaw: Leading Journalists Expose the Myth of a Free Press.

From the Inside Flap
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Collectively, these essays paint a picture that is as vivid and shocking as it is utterly credible. Riveting first-person accounts detail what these investigative reporters risked and what they uncovered about the government's investigation into the crash of TWA Flight 800; the CIA's involvement in the War on Drugs; the U.S. military's efforts to cover up the massacre of hundreds of civilians during the Korean War, and the conspiracy to court-martial a returning POW from Vietnam; the writing on the wall foreshadowing the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001; and much, much more.

If you want to know what's really going on in our nation's corridors of power, or if you read or watch the news on a regular basis, this book is indispensable. One thing is certain: after finishing INTO THE BUZZSAW, you will never again see or hear the news in the same way.

About the Author
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http://www.amazon.com/Into-Buzzsaw-Leading-Journalists-Expose/dp/product-description/1573929727/ref=dp_proddesc_0?ie=UTF8&n=283155&s=books

[reggie the dog]

46. filtering out info is impossilbe

about 85% of the usa has the net at home no journalists can filter anything for them, only 15% of people dont have the net so the journalists should only be able to dupe 15% with their bullshit. Everyone can know that Ron Paul came in 2nd just by typing a google search of iowa straw poll. perhaps the journalists think that it is still 1992?

[liberal N proud]

62. Pravda is envious of the propaganda system we have.

Looks like multiple media outlets but the all say the same thing using the same key words.

And it is all opinion based, no facts necessary commentary.

[Doctor_J]

66. CNN has no opinion?

Have you watched it? They are as right-wing as Fox. NPR is usually referred to as National Pentagon Radio.

[AlinPA]

5. Asshole reporter James has Paul aging 2 years in 1 year. Says he is 74 then that he will be 76 next

birthday. I despise Paul, but this reporter is a jerk.
http://www.npr.org/blogs/itsallpolitics/2011/08/16/139669952/ron-paul-wears-invisibility-cloak-in-medias-eyes?ft=1&f=1001

[jakeXT]

7. The whole 9min were great

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/jon-stewart-scolds-media-for-ignoring-rep-ron-paul-i-mean-fck-that-guy-right/

[abelenkpe]

8. Ron Paul should be ignored

The only thing he says which most agree with is that we should end the wars. After that he is just as nutty as many other Tea Party loons.
He's the original nut. He is a bigot. He wants to end affirmative action, cut all entitlements, thinks global warming is a hoax, that we should end the EPA and department of education, and deny emergency health care to immigrants. He's pro life and says there is never any reason in his experience for a woman to have an abortion and that states should be allowed to work to block a woman's ability to have an abortion. Why is anyone championing him? He's a dangerous lunatic. Of course so are the rest of the republican candidates. We should be ignoring all of them.

[no limit]

16. You may have on opion on what you think of him, and your opinion would probably be right

but why should the media get to decide who gets ignored and who doesn't? You're comfortable with that?

[abelenkpe]

22. No

Media is mostly propaganda controlled by tiny minority of rich people interested in telling viewers what to think and how to think. We are way past the time when we should be busting up media, finance and energy corporations.
I'm just sickened by Ron Paul's policy positions.

Do think we should end the wars tho. Actually never thought we should have started them.

[reggie the dog]

50. he should not be ignored

he is as horrible on race and abortion as most of the republicans are, yet he is ignored for being anti patriot act, anti war, and anti war on drugs

[Lorien]

9. Not a Paul fan, but like Kucinich he can't be bought

and doesn't toe the line for the corporate elite. THAT'S why they "disappear" him from the lineup of crazy.

[Dokkie]

11. leave it to Jon Stewart

To be the only real journalist in the whole MSM. This is just a shame and voter manipulation by the media. God help us all

[classof56]

14. Couldn't agree more.

:thumbsup:

[russspeakeasy]

63. God wants nothing more to do with us.

[James48]

18. I'm not a Ron Paul fan-

But I have a great deal more respect for Mr. Paul than I do any of the right-wing clowns in the race so far.

Paul at least believes in something. I'll give him credit for that.

[AlbertCat]

36. Paul at least believes in something.

Oh be sure Bachmann (and some of the others) believes in something!

[florida08]

21. Paul is not as pure as he would have you believe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYzdNwYHYvo&feature=player_embedded

He takes government taxpayer subsidized healthcare

[David Sky]

23. Brilliant and funny analysis of the reality of the talking heads of our

news media! Ignoring the obvious, those talking heads have been doing this, ignoring the obvious, ever since Bush's manufactured fiction of WMD's in Iraq, if not way before that, back in the days of Reagan and Ollie North, trading arms for hostages, and financing a secret war or two, or even further back, when Nixon was obviously lying and hiding the truth about his conspiracy to engage in criminality with the Watergate cover-up, or even before. H

Hmmmm! All the media's cover-ups and ignoring the obvious had to do with Republicans! But when there was a President engaging in a private sexual act with another adult, the media was all over it like flies on manure!

[slipslidingaway]

24. knr - just like the media, including "liberal" media, ignored Kucinich and ...

the issues he tried to raise ... jobs (WGA), against aggressive wars and a HC system for all and not tied to employment.

[pam4water]

25. +1

[slipslidingaway]

30. What would we do without corporate media to select the issues and candidates. :( nt

[AsahinaKimi]

27. It must be true... Republicans don't want anyone

Who is smart to run this country, they want someone dumb as a bag of Rocks..I guess what they really want is a puppet which can be manipulated by corporations. Someone who can be lead around like a dog on a leash.

[AtheistCrusader]

31. To be fair, his domestic policy sucks, even if he is a pretty smart guy.

But his foreign policy is everything we hoped from Obama, and more, and never really got any of it.

I'd rather see Kucinich in the White House, and Paul as the Secretary of Defense.

[AlbertCat]

37. they want someone dumb as a bag of Rocks.

It's that machismo "think with your gut" anti-intellectualism we saw at work in the Bush administrations.

[reggie the dog]

51. i dont even know how to think with my gut

sometimes my gut makes me think 'find a toilet fast' but that is about it :shrug:

[Quixote1818]

28. Paul probably won it, but it was rigged. Once they saw he won they

probably thought "Oh shit! We can't have that!" Then poof!

[rep the dems]

32. "Doesn't go out of his way to regurgitate talking points"=Biggest B.S I've ever heard from Jon

Otherwise mostly fair, but even Stewart said the Ames Straw Poll doesn't tell you much of anything. He makes a decent case for Paul not getting enough recognition from the media but it's still almost guaranteed that Ron Paul isn't getting the nomination.

[DeSwiss]

33. This is why they can't speak of Ron Paul's popularity:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY">


- Initially Ike was part of that "complex". He later thought better of it, but found he couldn't control it either. So he tried to warn us.
But it was already too late.....

K&R

[German]

35. Something to consider

Of How The Mainstream Media Works With Military Complex To Brainwash Americans

5 Reasons Progressives Should Join the Ron Paul Revolution

It almost seems as though the progressive media chooses the Republican challenger by simply reporting on the people they love to hate. They exhaustively write about Romney and Bachmann, clearly casting them as the prime targets. They use their precious news space to endlessly speculate about Sarah Palin and Rick Perry who aren't even in the race yet. And, once again, they seem to be distracting their readers with mundane mind-numbing drivel and typical wedge issues instead of real issues. But they don't have enough ink to cover Ron Paul?

Perhaps the reason they avoid discussing Ron Paul is that many progressives may find his message appealing, and you can't have that from a guy with an "R" after his name. If progressives were principled enough to cast aside labels, they would likely find Paul to be the candidate most suited to fulfill their concerns.

Here are five reasons progressives should support Ron Paul for president in 2012:

1. Peace: If you're a progressive whose main issue is ending our imperial wars, there is simply only one candidate to support, and that's Ron Paul. Indeed, Paul has gained much respect from anti-war liberals for his consistent stance against preemptive wars, permanent occupations, and torture. Certainly no other Republican candidate can claim credibility should they come out against foreign military action. And if progressives can't tell by now that the Nobel Peace-wielding president with a "D" after his name is a fraud in terms of ending the illegal and immoral wars, detention, and torture, then the audacity of hypocrisy will surely win the day.

....snip

2. Civil Liberties: Despite Obama's intoxicating rhetoric during the 2008 campaign about curbing the war on drugs, he not only continues to crack down on lawful medical marijuana patients, but even secretly arms Mexican drug gangs -- as if to feed an immortal monster that must continuously be slayed. Additionally, Obama's regime, in a direct assault to health-conscious citizens, has expanded the drug war to other natural products like raw milk and vitamins and supplements. In fact, armed federal agents and SWAT teams have been used in tyrannical raids of peaceful farmers and private food cooperatives.

.....snip

3. Economy: The real political debate about the economy is not about unions, taxes, or the budget cuts; it's about a living wage

....snip

4. Healthcare: This is probably the biggest hurdle for Ron Paul to win over progressives. Liberals who support single-payer government healthcare were brazenly betrayed by Obama during healthcare reform. The massive new bill did absolutely nothing to expand affordable coverage and only served to bolster the private insurance-big pharma cartel that progressives love to hate. Admittedly, Ron Paul doesn't support a single-payer healthcare, mainly because he believes that would just swap out a private cartel for a public monopoly -- both of which will naturally limit patients' options for medications, treatments and costs.

.......snip

5. Wedge Issues: Since wedge issues seem to be the only thing the progressive media wants to discuss about mainstream candidates, we'd be remiss not to mention Ron Paul's stance on them. In regards to abortion and gay marriage, Paul's first response is that it's none of the federal government's business to dictate those decisions. Although Paul opposes abortion philosophically, he is adamantly against forcing his personal beliefs on others.

.............

[AlbertCat]

38. Something to consider

Nope... it's not.

[reggie the dog]

52. foreign policy is where ron paul is excellent

domestic policy he is bad overall,
on domestic he is great for ending the war on drugs and was anti patriot act, he is horrible about abortion rights, race relations, and is ok on taxes as he wants to end all corporate tax breaks.

[AtheistCrusader]

39. One and Two are actually it. Nothing more.

The rest is pretty much horrible.

He'd be good as Secretary of Defense. Send him into the pentagon with a book of matches, and let him loose.

[Plucketeer]

42. Ron Paul.....

The John Edwards of 2012. Only - he won't crash in a pants off scandal.

[colsohlibgal]

43. Yep,Wars/Fed

His bashing the money and human drain of the wars at the debate was awesome, they couldn't shut him up fast enough.

If only he wasn't bat sh*t crazy on everything outside the Fed/wars...but you have to give him credit, he stays more true to his core values, as screwed up as some of them are, as opposed to everyone else, the man will not pander for votes.

[reggie the dog]

53. how is he batshit crazy?

his views on race relations and abortion are horrible but that does not make him crazy.

[pauldp]

44. Even if you can't stand Ron Paul this is an unacceptable outrage.

This is supposed to be a democracy god-dammit! TV anchors aren't supposed to control our elections. If a candidate ties for first or comes in close second it is supposed to be reported.
Where the fuck do these directives come from? Is there a paper with talking points handed out to EVERY political show talking head? How do these whores sleep at night?

[JohnyCanuck]

55. How do they sleep at night?

They go online and check the balances in their bank accounts and then sleep like a baby.

[pauldp]

58. on a mattress made of money. nt

[Ohio Joe]

56. I do not mind racist douchebags being ignored - nt

[PatrynXX]

60. ignoring ron paul? sure been doing that for years

Although his chances of winning are up now because he didn't come in number one. Some lady called bachman won. Ron always wins the straw polls but never wins. Whats that say about Bachman??? that she won't be winning. as a Left wing libertarian he's the only Republican I ever thought about voting for.

[liberal N proud]

61. It's Orwellian

The media decides who and what we all talk about.

[slipslidingaway]

68. Yes indeed, never heard of this guy before watching the 1995 movie Spin linked above ...

in the movie they said he thought the DOD expenses should be reduced by 50% and the money should be spent here at home.

Larry Agran
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Agran

"...In 1992, Agran unsuccessfully sought the Democratic Party nomination for President. Agran was generally ignored by the media during his candidacy, a topic heavily covered in the 1995 documentary Spin. The media did not report his polling numbers even as he met or exceeded the support of other candidates such as Jerry Brown. Party officials excluded him from most debates on various grounds, even having him arrested when he interrupted to ask to participate. Even when he managed to join the other candidates in a forum, his ideas went unreported..."

[slay]

64. Very true - people are starting to notice

Yahoo News even ran it on their front page yesterday - about the media blackout regarding Ron Paul.

Ron Paul has two big things going for him - he wants to end the wars, and he wants to legalize marijuana. i'm not saying i would vote for him, but i know quite a few people who voted for Obama in 2008 who are pretty pissed at all his betrayals and are indeed going to vote for Ron Paul, mainly for those 2 big reasons - at least in their primaries.

[Doctor_J]

71. It just dawned on me that this means all the "news" networks are reading the same script

WTF are they going to do when Rove stops writing their material for them?