‘We Get The Sacrifice, They Get The Wealth’: A Fired-Up Pelosi Tears Into GOP Deficit Plan

[kpete]

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[JDPriestly]

1. Well said.

We get the sacrifice. They share the wealth.

That should be the Democratic talking point.

We need to hear that over and over.

[TBMASE]

2. Does Nancy believe she's Middle Class?

her They/We talk sounds funny when it comes from a multi-millionaire who didn't raise taxes when she was Speaker of the House

[October]

4. She's representing her constituents. It's not personal. She gets it.

[TBMASE]

60. Does she realize she's gotten wealthier since she didn't revoke the Bush Tax Cuts

while she's playing the "we make the sacrifice, they get the wealth" card?

She has no idea what it means to be middle class in this economy and she shouldn't pretend that she does.

[October]

63. Well does ANY politician understand sacrifice? Most are out of touch.

Most politicians are wealthy -- and few fight at all for the little guy (or the middle guy).

[TBMASE]

73. Do they pretend they are the little guy when they got wealthier

that's what bother's me about her statement.
WE get the sacrifice THEY get the wealth....well she got the wealth, so who does she think she's fooling

[October]

76. They all pretend.

I well remember GWB pretending to be an everyman. There he was poking fun about elitists whilst sitting on damask chairs and eating chilled soup.

Talk about false!

[TBMASE]

77. who gives a fuck about Bush?

The only thing he has to do with this is Nancy's failure to repeal his tax cuts.

[October]

81. Well, why the fuck do you blame Pelosi for everything? At least she's defending people! /nt

[blue neen]

64. Hey, has Speaker Boehner said anything lately about those jobs he promised us?

Oh no, that's right. He's been too busy fighting with his own party, doing their best to bring down the country, to do any work on JOBS!

BTW, the actual quote from Congresswoman Pelosi is:

“The Speaker has said between him and the President, they have a different vision of America – and that’s how come their budget proposals are different, quite different. Maylon said it over and over again about shared sacrifice. We get the sacrifice; they share the wealth. That’s what it is.”

She's quoting the President of Professional Fire Fighters of Wisconsin.

The Fire Fighters just MIGHT have an idea of what it's like to middle class, especially in Scott Walker's world.

[TBMASE]

72. I don't care about that fuck

I'm commenting directly on her quote as posted in the OP.
Nancy doesn't have a clue what it means to be Middle Class these days, she's one of the people getting wealthier while others make the sacrifices.
She should have done something about the Bush Tax Cuts, instead of complaining about them now.

[AEEHINRRTTUW]

5. A foolish question

Edward Kennedy provided an excellent example of a rich person caring about those less fortunate.

[Uncle Joe]

38. As did FDR. n/t

[TBMASE]

40. Did he pretend he was sacrificing while other rich people got the wealth?

What is Nancy sacrificing while other rich people get wealthier.
She has no idea what sacrifice is these days

[klook]

45. GMAFB.

Rep. Pelosi is speaking for the American people, most of them.

Sir John of Orange is a traitor to his working-class roots.

[TBMASE]

56. Nothing like a millionaire saying she knows how bad people have it

she's profiting in this economy while pretending to be sacrificing.
She should have raised taxes instead of complaining about tax cuts

[klook]

65. So that's your assessment of FDR also? (n/t)

[TBMASE]

69. You're saying FDR had it as bad as others in the Depression?

Did he pretend he did?

[JDPriestly]

10. True, but I really don't mind as long as she sticks up for people who

don't have her wealth.

This means that she is willing to pay higher taxes and sacrifice with everyone else.

[eagertolearn]

34. I don't think she didn't raise taxes because she didn't want hers to

increase. Most of us who pay hirer taxes already can afford to pay more (don't want to but dropping social programs and environmental protections will only cost our children more in the end!). I see many older people who live on SS and can't afford the co-payments now being asked of them on Medicare. Nancy is so right...for the GOP it is all about money and not having any rules so they can make more.

[Kingofalldems]

14. Another attack on a loyal Democrat espousing Democratic ideals

Do you have a problem with that?

[lumpy]

43. Evidently the poster does have a problem....wrong forum.

x

[TBMASE]

57. Do I have a problem with a person who's gotten wealthier in this economy

pretending she knows what the average american is going through by trying to portray herself as an average american? Yes, yes I do.
She should have passed a bill to repeal the Bush Tax Cuts when she was speaker instead of complaining about them.

[klook]

66. Funny, I have a problem with Thousandaires

who espouse the values of Billionaires at their own peril.

But, hey, that's just me. Well, me and a few million other Democrats.

[TBMASE]

70. You can make believe she's sacrificing while others get wealthy if you wish

I know better

[klook]

71. "Editorial We." Look it up.

Interesting crusade you've chosen. I'm not following you down the rabbit hole any more.

[TBMASE]

79. Keep making excuses if you wish

she's not a "we" by any stretch of the imagination and shouldn't include herself in the group of people hardest hit

[dotymed]

25. FDR was a very wealthy person.

His "new Deal" legislation that he forced upon the baanksters and the elite, created an American economy and a very mobile "class structure." If he would have gotten his "second bill of rights" passed, we would have had universal health care 80 years ago and more social protections for the poor and working Americans. Being a real Democrat, means working for the improvement and progression of your country.

George Washington said that America could never work unless it stayed on a progressive path.

I was misinformed about Bernie Sanders comment on Thom Hartmann, I thought he would personally primary President Obama if he did not fight for our frugal safety nets. I was very disappointed. There could be no better man to primary this President.
He can and does use a bully-pulpit with a truth and sincerity that has not been heard since FDR.

[onpatrol98]

36. true...

probably petty, but I'm okay if she had just excluded herself from the sacrifice part...she isn't suffering...but, I'm glad she's looking out for the middle class...when she's looking out for the middle class...

I just no longer need them pretending to be suffering "along with the rest of us"...these days, that just strikes me as lying...you know, the old I feel your pain meme. They just don't. It's okay for them to be rich. They don't have to pretend to understand my circumstances. If they did, I think we'd hear fewer speeches and see a lot more work getting done, instead of them jetting all over the place.

[TBMASE]

39. On that, we agree

I don't need rich people telling me they know what I'm going through

[Enthusiast]

50. You're an impostor. nt

[TBMASE]

61. I must be, I'm willing to point out Nancy has gotten Wealthier

while the middle class has been making sacrifices

[Enthusiast]

67. Pelosi gets enough criticism

from the FAR RIGHT, she doesn't need "Democrats" to go out of their way to attack her. The point is, why bother?

[TBMASE]

78. Ohjhhhhh, I get it

we're supposed to overlook when Nancy's only sacrifice during the recession is losing her jet.
She's lumping herself in with the unemployed and the middle class, while she profited from the tax cuts she complains about.

Ok

[digidigido]

58. Are there Trolls here?

[vrp]

80. Where do you stand politically?

If you're a republican troll, fine, but admit it. Debate is OK. Whether Pelosi understands exactly what it's like to be poor and struggling is beside the point. If she votes for the people, then she's doing her job as the minority leader. FDR came from a privileged family but was a working class hero, as was John Lennon. Just because someone has wealth does not mean they can't empathize with those who don't. If you want to have a debate about wealth distribution, that's something else entirely.

[PhoenixAbove]

30. Here! Here! I agree. n/t

[alllyingwhores]

37. ‘We Get The Sacrifice, They Get The Wealth’...yep, and Obama and Reid are doing everything possible

‘We Get The Sacrifice, They Get The Wealth’...yep, and Obama and Reid are doing everything possible TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN.

[Enrique]

3. yesterday she said "it's clear we must enter an era of austerity"

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2011/07/25/pelosi_it_is_clear_we_must_enter_an_era_of_austerity_.html

[Phlem]

8. I know!

Maybe she got her ass chewed up and down and sideways by her constituents.

:shrug:

-p

[Badsam]

6. How long has that woman been in Washington...

and what do we have to show for her hard work? What do we have after 20 years of her beinig in washington? Is she about to compromise with your Social Security and medicare/medicaid?

[blue neen]

11. "How long has "that woman" been in Washington?"

What a curious way of describing Congressman Pelosi.

I salute her and think she's terrific.

:patriot:

[seeker4ever]

16. What are some of the terriffic things she's done? How about during the Bush years?

[blue neen]

20. A quote from Ms. Pelosi's speech when she became Speaker of the House:

"This is a historic moment — for the Congress, and for the women of this country. It is a moment for which we have waited more than 200 years. Never losing faith, we waited through the many years of struggle to achieve our rights. But women weren't just waiting; women were working. Never losing faith, we worked to redeem the promise of America, that all men and women are created equal. For our daughters and granddaughters, today, we have broken the marble ceiling. For our daughters and our granddaughters, the sky is the limit, anything is possible for them".

In 2001, Pelosi was elected the House Minority Whip. She was the first woman in U.S. history to hold that post.

[Proles]

7. Nancy may be a multi-millionair,

but so what?

The difference between a rich conservative and a rich leftist is that the leftist realizes they've been blessed, and that poorer people at least deserve a comfortable middle-class life.

And she's one of the tougher Democrats, so I don't think she'll compromise on things like Medicare without a fight.

Remember, we have Nancy to thank for even having a healthcare bill in the first place. Sure, it was a single payer or public option, but without her, we wouldn't have had anything. She pushed President Obama and reminded him to fulfill one of his most important campaign promises.

[TBMASE]

62. Why didn't she push Obama to repeal the Bush tax cuts?

she's gotten wealthier while the middle class has suffered

[russspeakeasy]

9. You go girl !! One democrat with a pair ..!!!!

:bounce: :bounce:

[seeker4ever]

12. Does Anyone Remember Her During the Bush Years?

[bertman]

13. Do you mean the "Impeachment is OFF the TABLE years?" Yeah, I remember.

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[AlbertCat]

28. Do you mean the "Impeachment is OFF the TABLE years?" Yeah, I remember.

Wow.. it took to comment # 12 for that to come up!!!

I was sure this shallow one note criticism would have showed up before that! It always does.

Perhaps you might also want to remember that the Repugs had already turned impeachment into a joke by then. You might want to cast your mind back to how the Repugs used the Clinton impeachment, which was never meant to succeed, but to insulate any Repug from any such action by Dems... as an act of "revenge".

So, ignore the circumstances, since you can only think of one thing at a time. And forget that when she was Speaker she got tons of stuff done in her House, only to be stopped in Reid's dysfunctional Senate.

Or you can try to get past your obsession and remember a little more.

[PhoenixAbove]

32. I remember well when she said that...

somehow I don't think that was ever really an option anyway. The "Big Boys" wouldn't even consider it.

[blue neen]

21. Yes, many people do.

Google is your friend, but I'm just guessing that you're just asking "rhetorical" questions on this thread.

[grahamhgreen]

17. Sounds good. Id like to hear specific points of action, ie, tax the hoarding class.

[Jim_Shorts]

18. Why doesn't Obama step up to the microphone and give that message ?

Nancy has fought for SS and Medicare harder than 99% of the politicians in Washington. She just said recently that if Obama sent a bill cutting entitlements that they wouldn't vote for it. Thats what I want to hear.

[txlibdem]

19. I love the "Good cop, bad cop" schtick. Gets me every time!

Meanwhile, after Reid/Pelosi spending decades in congress, middle class pay is stagnant and our benefits slowly but steadily reduce year after year.

Does anyone remember when certain companies gave a pension? I never got to work at any of those places but that was America. Remember when companies considered an employee an asset and would train you (or pay to train you) and provide extra education to help you move up in the company? Those days are long gone: now you have to pay for your own training, and the happy smiling people on TV want you to pay your own money to attend their training company or college.

Reid/Pelosi are just as much a part of the fraud kabuki theater as any of those "evil" Repukes, just playing their part in the play.

[earcandle]

22. In between stimulus and response is choice... we need to levy taxes on our citizens and businesses

fairly and equitably to raise revenue to pay our mandated,
regulated, legally passed expenditures, not use debt
instruments that just run up more debt in interest payments
and for who?  This is treasonous.  

Get those revenues through legal mandates (tax levies are
issued, not voted on, so get busy.. don't ask, just do it..
its your job.  raise the taxes already to 50% to 70% of anyone
making over 1M at least) raised or resign your position
because you are not doing your job to keep our coffers within
budget.  Budgets don't use debt instruments on the services
side, just for financing equipment and capital projects.  

Usually government issues a temporary bond repaid when revenue
is collected.  
Our leaders, led away by Heritage House payoffs, have
irresponsibly walked away from revenue generation, and have
tapped into our treasury for wars and prisons and corruption
world wide. They have used our money to pay for private
mercenary armies to work for corporations and destroy
countries, lives, habitat in our name with our bucks.

This is shameful and sick.  Prosecute Murdock for allowing
this to stay cloaked for so long.  Praise to WikiLeaks for
their investigative reporting so we can start to grapple with
the bait and switch our leaders have performed on this planet.
 

Who ever follows Kucinich's plan, or starts a national bank
for the people has my vote.  Period. We can have it all back
in a flash, once we are on the same page and prosecuting those
responsible.  
IMNSHO!

[dotymed]

27. Well, said earcandle.

I'd like to add a few more.
When Clinton signed NAFTA into law, he said that if it did not work for America we could get out of it.

America has added all of these "free trade" (not "fair trade") agreements worldwide, with almost every nation. However, those nations have had the good sense to levy taxes on goods that are imported, or like China, artificially suppress their countries currency.

Either of these practices are sufficient to break the "free trade" agreement. Yet, because of the greed of our elite, we have not withdrawn from these agreements. We have basically said ,"ok, you don't have to follow the rules because we love your cheap labor."

Free trade does not exist in any of the "agreements.' Fair trade is what was supposed to have happened. They should have been named "fair trade" agreements and abandoned when they were not lived up to.

Instead, we have allowed the banksters and corporate America (even though they do not pay American taxes) to keep these unfair trade agreements in place, just so they can profit at the expense of the American economy.

To re-name these people anything other than the Robber-Barons that they have always been, would be incorrect.

We have allowed them to ruin our economy and we have allowed our SCOTUS to place a legal "bribe" price on the heads of our legislators, through "citizens united." That is unheard of in all but true "banana republics."

America would not have allowed this "law" to happen even 30 years ago, and no nation on earth besides America, would allow the same law to pass today. We do not have the right to say "what happened to our economy?"

We have allowed the biggest financial and corporate coup in the history of the world to happen on our watch, and while "they" speak of austerity for the masses,they still find it hard to find any place but a computer to keep their wealth in.

It is unfathomable that the American people have not rioted in the streets, as is their right. But for the propaganda of the Main Stream Media and Fox "news" in particular, most Americans have remained ignorant of the truth of their generation.

Common citizens like myself fear being accused of tyranny for telling the truth in these matters, when actually all of these laws and lack of laws are the true tyranny and their supporters, the American Traitors.

edited for spelling and grammar

[louslobbs]

59. Well said dotymed.

Lou

[dotymed]

23. Good Nancy, you are sounding like a Democrat.

Grab Obama, tell him to ACT like one, or get primaried with all the Democratic support you can muster.

[Metta]

24. Good for freaking her. Can't be too many people speaking up.

Here's to her. :toast:

[Duct Tape]

26. She didn't seemed too fired up in my opinion, but

what she said was spot on. :applause:

[ElsewheresDaughter]

29. Hey Lady, "Only you can prevent forest fires"!!!

[PhoenixAbove]

31. Yes... I think she gets it. n/t

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[FighttheFuture]

41. Yes, she should have taken a vow of poverty. How's your hair-shirt business goging, BTW?

Just because she made money and is not exactly poor or middle class does not mean she doesn't support them or policies favoring them. There are many others were your ire can be better targeted.

[lumpy]

44. LIke calling Pelosi a bitch is going to change our minds ?

Not

[hakko936]

46. I didn't think it would....

...and that wasn't my intent. I think she is about as two faced as they come and that has significantly damaged what we hope to accomplish. If a repuglican had the same huge jump in net worth during the recession and did it in real estate, we would be raising hell about it. I fail to understand how we can stand behind Pelosi given what she has accomplished or failed to accomplish as leader. For her to get up there and say their should be sacrifice after the job she has done is laughable. We had ultimate control of the government for two years with her being in control of the House. Why are we even at this point if she was actually fighting for the progressives of this country during those two years? She has proven to be no leader and it is time we quit pretending she is/was.

[blue neen]

47. So, then what was your intent in using such a sexist slur?

Please explain.

[hakko936]

51. Statement of fact......

...would you have preferred I called her a malicious and spiteful woman? Either accurately describes her.

[blue neen]

54. So, as a statement of fact we could call John Boehner a bitch.

Malicious and spiteful are two words that accurately describe him, aren't they?

According to your line of thinking, Mitch McConnell, Eric Cantor, Darrell Issa--all bitches.

That bitch, Grover Norquist, made all the rest of the bitches sign the Taxpayer Protection Pledge.

Interesting that now The U.S. Chamber of Commerce bitches are having a little buyers remorse over the bitches that they put into office.

:)

[hakko936]

68. Definition of bitch...

http://www.yourdictionary.com/bitch

I used the word accurately.

To a degree, the word would be accurate for those you named as well if you read the definition.

[lumpy]

74. McConnell, Cantor, Issa, & Norquist are all SOBitches.

To even up the score.

[Enthusiast]

49. Curious that a "Democrat" would see

Pelosi as a two faced bitch.

[hakko936]

52. Why is it curious?

Am I supposed to like her just because she has (D) next to her name? I think she is in it for Nancy and friends of Nancy. If it doesn't serve those causes, she isn't going to do it. That is just my personal opinion of her. I don't think she is a good Democrat. I think she provides lip service to maintain her power. That is just my personal opinion of her.

[lumpy]

75. I'd sooner be a bitch than a SOB.

Like some people I would get into trouble for mentioning their names.

[sulphurdunn]

35. We're headed back

to the lesser of two evils two party politics (not that we ever really left). Now the choice is between the party that picks your pocket and ignores you and the one that wants to take all you have and kill you.

[FighttheFuture]

42. Go fo rthe one that kills you. At least it will engender a fight/surivival response.

That's why I am voting crazy assclown for Prez, but Dem for House/Senate. Obama sucks, plain and simple, and he has damaged the Democratic party and platform with his DLC pro-corporatist Republican favoring policies.

[sulphurdunn]

48. I hear ya.

But voting for someone who should be under professional care for multiple personality disorders wouldn't be easy. Particularly, if he or she gets all glassy-eyed and rapturously orgasmic looking forward to a nuclear holocaust so Jesus can return.

[defendandprotect]

53. Go Nancy -- but notice how little the Dem Minority has to say vs when Repugs are the minority!!

[Initech]

55. Where was she 5 years ago??