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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 07:56 AM
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Mike Gravel on PBS - The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer
 
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whistle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 08:18 AM
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1. Great, the earlier post of this interview took only the first 10 1/2 minutes
...and cut the rest. Thanks for posting the whole thing on this version :applause:
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rabies1 Donating Member (434 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 05:20 PM
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11. He's right, it depends on WHO'S doing the poling
I think online Kucinich does great. Newspapers report Hillary is way ahead.
This man is remarkably honest and engaging to listen to. Thumbs up!
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:06 AM
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2. He's got my vote
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Gravel2008 Donating Member (130 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 11:27 AM
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4. And mine!
:)
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 09:43 AM
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3. Thank You!
I LOVE Mike!

:loveya:
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cooolandrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:12 PM
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5. He's great in the debates but his platform is nowhere near as strong as Kucinich's is.
In fact most candidates platforms don't hold a candle to Kucinich who has a platform stronger than FDR.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 02:23 PM
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6. I I had a blank check.... I'd love to seem him in a one-on-one with the Top Three. nt
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 03:14 PM
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7. Another impressive Gravel video: (Link)
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 03:36 PM by gateley
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 03:36 PM
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8. Wow. The more times I watch this, the angrier I get at the state of our country
today. We would do well with Gravel as President. How frustrating that he hasn't: been able to be heard.
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iamthebandfanman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 03:52 PM
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9. you realize
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 03:55 PM by iamthebandfanman
all hes really supporting is 'true' democracy....

gravel just comes off to me as someone who kinda fumbles n bumbles when speaking...hes not crazy.


noone disputes we have alot of ignorant and nutjob people in this country who COULD vote on things... but do u think they would? i think itd be the same group voters we have now....
and if thats so... hello more liberal policies...


i wish he had a snow balls chance
but then again
people were saying that about Howard Dean....


the question is, can the internet help gravel the way it did Dean...and are to many candidates already capitalizing on it for him to ever become effective at fundraising...
i kinda doubt it.

would be nice if he was in the top 3 tho, just to spice things up...

hes right you know... the whole money corrupting thing...
the people with the most are usually the most corrupt... its no different in politics...specially when involving donations and 'gifts' to a campaign
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 03:58 PM
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10. It would be best for our country if all the candidates felt as Gravel does. nt
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 06:28 PM
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12. One big problem:
Edited on Fri Oct-05-07 06:30 PM by tblue37
The Founding Fathers were absolutely correct about the fact that the crowd is easily stampeded. Government by plebiscite is exactly what keeps happening in California with all those voter initiatives. The US “people” are ignorant and distracted and can easily be persuaded by propaganda campaigns that are funded by the deep pockets what Teddy Roosevelt called “malefactors of great wealth.”

The attempt by the Republicans to change the way the electoral votes are allotted in California, funded by the director of Rudy Giuliani’s campaign manager, is an example of the risk of letting the people make laws. That initiative failed, thank goodness, but the Republicans were able to force the recall of Democratic governor Gray Davis, because the people were angry that he couldn’t solve the energy problems deliberately created by Republican cronies Enron.

Gravel makes a lot of sense in many areas, but this business about letting “the people” make the laws ignores the fact that “the people” are the same sort of mindless mob that votes for people like George Bush and gives them high poll numbers, until things are so disastrous that they finally feel it directly themselves—but by then the damage is so great that it is impossible or almost impossible to begin to fix it. Sure, Bush’s numbers are bad now, but that’s fairly recent. By ginning up an illegal war, those malefactors of great wealth were able to get “the people” so excited that they practically deified Bush! The people” can all too easily get stampeded into supporting other demagogues’ evil schemes, as well.

I really like that he is in the race, though, because he helps pull the conversation toward the progressive side. For too long, all forces have been pulling our poilitical discourse to the right of Atilla the Hun. Maybe his presence will force reconsideration of the media annointed "top-tier" candidates, in terms of how close they come to the progressive ideas he has articlated. He might even force reconsideration of Kucinich, who has suffered a media shut-out almost as extreme as the one Grvel has experienced.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-05-07 06:46 PM
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13. Thank you for your comment. I'm always appreciative of learning other
viewpoints and opinions -- it helps me make better informed decisions. I'm so glad there are others out there (like you) who are able to see the broader picture and educate the rest of us! :toast:
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