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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:32 PM
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Cenk on MSNBC: It Was NOT Waterboarding That Got Us Bin Laden
 
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MSNBC - May 3, 2011: "Tortured Logic" - Cenk Uygur shows Sen. Feinstein, chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, saying torture not source of bin Laden info, Rep. King lying about that, and Cheney lying about it as well. Interview with Dahlia Lithwick of Slate.
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karnac Donating Member (495 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 09:42 PM
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1. Im not convinced one way or the other.
Frankly, those that *should* know keep on giving mixed messages. as if they are afraid to be disproven later.

Those that have a stake in pre-assumed positions, particularly pro-waterboarding/torture folk, but weren't there seem to be sure.

Doesn't matter. torture is just plain wrong.
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 10:13 PM
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2. Seperated at birth - Khalid Sheik Mohammed and Animal from the muppets
I never saw that picture of him before, but the second I saw it, it reminded me of "Animal" from the muppets




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chill_wind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 10:29 PM
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3. Yes, we have an "official" position that torture is wrong
and is and was of no efficacy - and a subtext that it's not so wrong that anybody should be prosecuted.

Yoo verdict? CIA destroyers of the torture tapes? Just bad judgement. Witch hunts for the doers? Not in Panetta's CIA. Forgeddabout it. Lots of public lip service to the right talk. In reality, no one in government/OLC past or present has seemed to want foreclose on its options-- by actually having a little justice carried out to back up the rhetoric.
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 10:37 PM
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4. You can push Obama all you want about....
Edited on Tue May-03-11 10:37 PM by dennis4868
closing Gittmo but it's not Obama you have to get too....it's the damn congress on this issue that will not approve and fund it....This lady speaks as if Obama is against closing Gittmo.....if she wants to push Obama on this, she is pushing the wrong person! Why do so many liberals forget that there is a congress that Obama has to work with to get things done (including funding for actions to be taken by the U.S. government).
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Grassy Knoll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-03-11 10:37 PM
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5. Whaaat , a black guy did what a white texan couldn't........
say it aint so , Obama Got the biggest fish, and pugs claim it was their lure, HAHAHA
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 01:04 AM
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6. make sure you checkout the Anderson Cooper Wolfowitz interview
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garybeck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 02:08 AM
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7. wow, Cheney looks like he's about to keel over.
not that I would shed a tear over it happening, but man he don't look good.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-04-11 07:03 AM
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8. I noticed that, too.
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 05:01 AM
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9. Too bad too. I want him to live to see a trial.
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ScottLand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 05:04 AM
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10. Sean Hannity's back on the torture wagon too.
Need I point out that just because something works doesn't make it right. It might work to solve the illegal problem by deciding to shoot all Mexicans on sight, but would that be right? If waterboarding works so well, would Hannity or Cheney use it on their kids?

And no, I don't think torture works anyway.
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