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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:36 PM
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US in Operation Odyssey Dawn: Iraq mistakes repeated in Libya?
 
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The U.S. has been at the vanguard of the military operation over Libya, with American Generals in command. That's despite Washington insisting it would only play a supporting role. RT's Gayane Chichakyan explains, why the U.S. administration is at pains to look like it's remaining in the background.
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 05:57 PM
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1. President Obama why didn't you take the advice from your own Secretary of Defense &not get involved?
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 06:33 PM
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2. Good reporting. Too bad someone un-rec'd it.
Some people only like propaganda, I guess.
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usbek Donating Member (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 06:58 PM
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3. Some facts about Libya. Enjoy !
Edited on Mon Mar-21-11 07:03 PM by usbek
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For each family member state pays annually $1,000 grants.
Unemployment benefit is $730.
Salary of a nurse - $1,000.
For every newborn paid $7,000.
Newlyweds get state gift of $64,000 to buy an apartment.
At the opening of private businesses lump sum financial assistance of $ 20,000.
Major taxes and levies prohibited.
Education and medicine are free.
Education and training abroad at state expense.
Chain stores for large families with symbolic prices of basic foodstuffs.
For selling expired products, large fines and detention by special police units.
Some pharmacies are with free medicine dispensing.
Death penalty for counterfeiting of medicines.
No rent/condo fee.
Electricity is free for households.
Sale and use of alcohol is prohibited.
For car loans and mortgages - O(zero) percent interest.
Realtor services are prohibited.
State pays 50% of car price when you buy it, for state militia fighters - 65%.
Petrol is cheaper than water. 1 liter of gasoline - $0.14
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 08:30 PM
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4. So.... we're being duped about Libya? Is that the take home message?
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Buddha2B Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 11:05 PM
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5. If they claim they were dupped then
They are incompetent.

The point of them being the Executive Officers in charge of the country was to take responsibility.

I don't buy either excuse.
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JonathanBrowne Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 11:46 PM
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6. you gotta be kidding me
This is just hilariously stupid.

It's clear that we are dealing with a psycho who is killing his own people (gaddafi).

It's also quite clear that Obama is fully within his presidential powers to use the US Military in establishing a no-fly zone under UN authority.

We've got jackasses like Kucinich saying this is an impeachable offense.

Dude, the ability for the president to take military action of this nature without the declaration of war by congress is something established in high school history class. This is high school level political science we are dealing with.

I can't believe how uninformed you can be and serve in congress.

A great sign that Obama is right on is the flack he constantly is getting from both the right and left.

What we are going to see emerge here is clown from the right who previously were complaining vehemently that Obama wasn't taking action quick enough, doing an about face and saying he should be impeached for taking action so fast without congressional approval.

Then we will see the typical parade of liberals who need to lay off the drugs, claiming that this is just more proof that Obama is some sort of neoconservative in disguise and that he never was on our side.

This, despite the absolute fact that Obama has more effectively advanced the progressive agenda than any president in most of our lifetimes.

The reason Obama is so effective is because he is a person that does things that make sense based on reason and good judgement. He is wearing clear lenses of reason, not the multicolored funhouse mirror glasses that ideologues are all wearing, with varying levels of distorted vision resultant.

Eventually, (if you live to be around for it) you will all see that Obama is a genius when the history books are compiled, and he is remembered as one of the most effective presidents in American history.

Of course their are cynics who will always attempt to revision all history into a series of dark events. This only reflects a dark and pessisimistic worldview. In other words, those who have had terrible lives seek to justify their own life by wringing their hands about the supposed dark works of the man keeping them down.

The reason that so many rich people are republicans is because they get tired of hearing people whine and moan about how the system is keeping them down, knowing that it is possible to bootstrap oneself to any kind of life one desires. Not that their political views are right, but it makes sense that they have that point of view. They aren't neccessarily evil, as is commonly portrayed here, just deeply misguided. For instance, I think the Koch brothers truly believe their agenda is what's best for the country - they make their case rather passionately in Charles Kochs book. Once in a while we have people like Warren Buffet or Bill Gates who are sensible enough to understand that although it is true that one is responsible for ones life, for the most part, it is also true that some people do need a helping hand out of the doldrums they are in both economically and perhaps mentally.

If only we could all try to understand each others point of view rather than taking up arms at one side of an ideological battlefield. In the war of ideas, typically neither side is actually in the right, and the truth is an innocent victim that gets caught in the crossfire and sent to a shabby poorly funded hospital with post traumatic stress, temporarily unable to walk. The truth (of the moment) ends up spending the next couple decades in rehab only to emerge in what's known as "hindsight".

Anyway, i'm sure most of you in your self righteous rage against the machine, will just ignore this and load up your next round for the never ending ideological/class war.

Have at it.

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