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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 02:46 AM
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Joe Rogan: The American War Machine
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRB4dVk4kK0
 
Posted on YouTube: January 20, 2011
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Posted on DU: January 27, 2011
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Rising Above Politics

Sure, they may kick a lot of Republicans asses out of office next election. Big friggin deal! For my people, the same feudalist deal is on the table as ever: work hard, kill when you are told to, trust your betters, and everything will be all right. Plenty of highly politicized leftists and their meeker kin, the last hopeful Democrats, came up as hard as anyone I’ve described here. The Democratic Party definitely doesn’t want them showing up like bikers at a cocktail party and talking real populism. Because there ain’t no big money campaign contributions behind populism.

Look at it this way: Black America suffered lynchings, police dogs and fire bombings just to shit on the same toilet seats as white Americans like you and me, and ultimately waste their lives in front of computer monitors next to us on the same electronic plantation of the gulag global economy swallowing America and the rest of the world.

And so, still I ask (and who am I to ask anything?): Are there any progressives or leftists willing to come out here into the hinterlands and offer the first step. True populist hope? Spell it out in “see-spot-run” language? Talk about our bad teeth and why our elderly parents are rotting in pisshole nursing homes owned by ex-car dealers and attended by imported Asian physicians who barely speak English? Or the dynamics of hopelessness that drive the meth epidemic out here? It will take an entire lifetime of commitment amid a crumbling world. And it will continue to crumble around us even as we work.

There will be not one ounce of glory or acknowledgment or public reward. But it lies there before us, the first fearful and questioning stone on the pathway to the liberation of mankind. True populist politics could give us a quarter turn in the right direction. Genuine socialism could put us on the approximate path to justice. Eco-politics cannot save us from the inevitable, but at least it can teach us to deal with our limitations as a species upon this earth. But one begins the journey at the start of the path, not the promised land at its end.

Can we quit talking and start walking now?

http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2007/05/rising_above_po.html">~Joe Bageant, May 2007
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rainy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 06:07 AM
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1. Makes you wonder. Nt
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 03:48 PM
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3. Perpetual War.
- It's the only growth industry we've got now.

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, represents, in the final analysis, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children." ~Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 01:11 PM
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2. good stuff thanks! nt
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 03:48 PM
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4. You're welcome. ;-) n/t
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Dokkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 04:02 PM
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5. the truth is
Democrats and republicans do not care about the deaths of Arabs in the middle east. We despise war more because of the cost and the death and destruction it bring to the US soldiers and their families and thats just the truth.

Another thing I do not understand about wars for profit is this, wouldn't it be easier to just steal the money that concoct a reason to fight a war where real money is spent angering the public and those being invaded? This applies to Vietnam and Korea which had no natural resources to plunder.

END THE WARS NOW
PEACE
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-27-11 05:14 PM
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6. Agreed.
Of course stealing is so "unseemly." And you don't get the testosterone rush like you do with warring on people.

- Even when they're weak and largely defenseless people.
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UnrepentantLiberal Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 12:53 PM
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Well said.
 
Run time: 09:23
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRB4dVk4kK0
 
Posted on YouTube: January 20, 2011
By YouTube Member: TheParadigmShift
Views on YouTube: 33395
 
Posted on DU: February 17, 2011
By DU Member: UnrepentantLiberal
Views on DU: 1215
 
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UnrepentantLiberal Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 12:53 PM
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7. Well said.
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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:09 PM
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8. New Netroots Organization Founded Independent of Dems
__________
Jeff Cohen: Most current net based organizing groups too connected to the Democratic Party which ties their hands.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x560740
__________
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drokhole Donating Member (759 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:22 PM
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9. Joe Rogan has been impressing the shit out of me lately...
Edited on Fri Mar-11-11 07:25 PM by drokhole
...especially in his advocating on behalf of cannabis and psychedelics (specifically DMT). This was fantastic, thanks for posting it. He seems incredibly well-informed. I take it fear of knowledge is not a factor for him.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-11-11 07:47 PM
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10. I haven't watch it yet but Rogan brings a great "demographic" with him
getting a dent into the MMA crowd is good for the good guys.

He was a really good stand-up (back in the "News Radio" days when I saw him a lot) and he is a technical champion in martial arts. He has been smart to stay out of the octagon.
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Charleston Chew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-12-11 05:40 AM
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11. kick
breathing new life into an old thread


This needs more attention
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