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moedookie Donating Member (54 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 12:39 PM
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Man Brutally Beaten and Pepper Sprayed by Cop
 
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Jeroen Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 12:45 PM
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1. That cop should go to jail. Unbelievable n/t
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vanbean Donating Member (957 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 12:55 PM
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2. I've seem worse.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 12:59 PM
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3. Compliance!
I still don't understand what the hell. The cop takes the suspect away without backup? Leaves the witnesses behind? Looks like he's taking him into the store? Why? To clean him up before his backup arrives?

WTF did we just see here? (Beyond a savage beating for no reason)
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:20 PM
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6. Let's ask CrazyJoe!!!
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 02:20 PM
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14. You know, on further review of the video, I have some concerns.
#1 you never see the baton connect with the guy on the ground, and you hear a distinct 'clink' like it hit pavement.
#2 you never see the 'pepper spray' discharge, and you do not see it hit the guy on the ground.
#3 none of the people milling around react in any expected way.


Do we KNOW this guy in the uniform was actually a cop?


I'll give the victim the benefit of the doubt, but something's fishy here. I want to see a name of an actual cop come up. Too wierd.
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crazyjoe Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:09 PM
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4. do you really think the cop beat that guy for no reason in front of all those people?
We have no idea what happened based on that video. Lets not forget how a huge organization (acorn) was brought down by some "college student" based on a video, and that one had sound. Yet so many here are willing to trial and convict based on a lesser video than that.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:19 PM
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5. what possible (even if totally improbable) scenario do you have in your head...
that would justify this.

Telling the cop to "shutup"? No.
Telling the cop to "suck my d---"? No.
Telling the cop "I oughta shoot your ass"? No.

The man didn't lunge or make any threatening moves, so what possible, evin if improbable, justification can you contrive?
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wxgeek7 Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 02:16 PM
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13. I think you're on to something
I think this policeman made the mistake of taking this arrest personally, which led to his poor decisions.

I sure hope this cop will be reprimanded for this!
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:20 PM
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7. I don't know what you just saw.
But I just saw a young man beaten with a baton while he lay on the ground. At no time did this officer who's job is primarily PEACE keeping appear to be defending himself, but punishing the kid for failing to be properly intimidated. I don't forget about ACORN, it wasn't so much the dim watt bulbs of brittle brain brats that did that organization in it was the failure of well paid gate keepers who forgot what their job was supposed to be. I didn't see a lot of editing here, so I would ask that you reconsider the choice to employ the word lesser.
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BetterThanNoSN Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 04:29 PM
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17. not so sure...
it is rather suspicious that the vidcam holder kept the kid out of camera shot. you didn't see anyone get beaten as i didn't see anyone beaten. We saw this cop? swinging a baton, period. What it did or didn't hit is all conjecture. If real, beat the cop with his own baton.
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 10:14 PM
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21. What you find suspicious is the saddest part for me.
Three young men standing by, at least two more in the car the video is being shot from while at the gas station, yet no one intervened. This video shows how much success imposing a police state has had. Not one person challenged the lone abusive authority figure out of fear. We saw a cop swing his baton seven times in plain view of three men, and they appear to be responding as though he is striking thin air.
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BetterThanNoSN Donating Member (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 11:07 AM
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22. well,...
my point was, is it real? the vid shows nothing to substantiate peoples reactions in here. have you seen this vid referenced anywhere else to prove its validity?
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jotsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 11:38 AM
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23. Historical info too, tyvm.
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Jeroen Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:24 PM
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8. yes n/t
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wxgeek7 Donating Member (189 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 01:50 PM
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9. WTF!?
Clearly, this was a case of a policeman using way too much force! The man may have said something nasty, but he didn't provoke the policeman physically! In fact the policeman easily threw the man on the ground (while he was handcuffed?), then was able to take his time striking the man, while he was down, over and over again with his baton. Then, for whatever reason, he decided that the beaten guy needed to be pepper sprayed.

Nice job to the guy who took the video!
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 02:12 PM
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12. Unless this guy isn't actually a cop, kinda hard to cry false flag.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 03:21 PM
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15. The guy was pepper-sprayed while he was handcuffed.
Is pepper spray used as a deterrent from physical force or is it correct to use it on a handcuffed person because he's complaining & mouthing off.
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 02:07 PM
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10. Well, at least the cop didn't mistake his gun for a taser.
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 02:08 PM
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11. Great job to the people that filmed this and posted it
The only way to stop rampant police brutality is to shine the light on it.
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reggie the dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 03:34 PM
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16. that fucking pig is lucky that the car was not full of real thugs
they would have shot his bitch ass in the back of the head while they were beating their homie... i bet you that cop would piss his pants had he pulled over a car load of crips or something
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 04:31 PM
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18. No Legal Eagle here...
but it was apparent to me that there were several things "wrong" here.

It appeared individual was handcuffed, therefore considered subdued. He lifted the individual back of jacket, if there were head/neck injuries he could have exasperated them. The individual not placed in a police cruiser, (was this a cop or a uniformed guard?)

NO cop in his right mind would do this w/o backup.

There are other questions as well. Why were others "standing around? What was the bottle that was picked up? Telling a cop to "fuck off" or anything else is not wise, but nor is it illegal, certainly not worth a beating.

We don't know what "probably cause" was involved. There were no cruiser lights going that could be seen, standard in any pull over. An officer can ask a driver or passengers to exit a vehicle, but they do not have to. Any driver can demand a warrant be issued for probable cause, which will take a little time, and once a warrant is produced, the requirement is follow what is dictated in the warrant.

I was pulled over once, showed license, registration and proof of insurance, then asked to exit the vehicle. I asked if there was a warrant for my arrest and why was I pulled over. No warrants, and of all things, my license plate light was out. I told the officer I would like a warrant to be issued, to which NINE cops showed up! All but one, a Sgt, was pissed off and demanded I exit the vehicle. I said no, not w/o a warrant. A warrant was produced, I was cuffed, tossed into he back of a cruiser and taken to booking.

The next day, (after a night of continual harassment), the DA dropped the charges, saying the whole thing was a waste of taxpayer money, and I went and replaced the bulb, (I keep spares of all bulbs in the trunk), and my vehicle was released from impound at a cost to the city. I received several calls from atty's about the incident, but did not counter the charges. One thing the DA told me, was that I was in my Constitutional rights, and the cops should have thought better of the situation and just gotten the warrant w/o any harassment...or, in all honesty, given me a citation...that was their job.

Two years later, and officer named Jenkins, shot a kid, (he survived), because the kid ran away from him after Jenkins pulled a gun while questioning the kid, (14 at the time) on the street about someone else. He was convicted of attempted manslaughter, was thrown off the force and spent 2 years in prison. Jenkins was the cop who pulled me over initially.

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Veilex Donating Member (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 04:52 PM
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19. Sorry guys but this doesn't pass the sniff test...
For one, the "suspect" is in cuffs. If a suspect is in cuffs, the threat has been controlled.
There is absolutely no reason at that point to use an asp or peeper spray. Next, there are four
people there... a cop absolutely WILL NOT attempt to apprehend anyone without backup when grossly
outnumbered such as is the case here... particularly with all the high profile violence that has been
happening to law enforcement as of late (Forza Coffee anyone?).
There is also the car that just happens to be at the right place at the right time
to capture the video of a "beating" that we don't see. You can clearly hear the asp baton strike
cement as opposed to hitting the person... its a unique sound really and sounds dramatically different
from striking people... there are also no sounds of protest from the person being stuck... and yet again,
we can hear the asp baton strike the ground. If you can hear the asp hit the ground, you should be able to
hear the person grunt and cry out when struck.
There are also some strange audio occurances...a few times you can hear what the people outside the car are saying
quite clearly...almost as if having audio microphones.

Cuffed suspect,
Lots of witnesses,
no backup,
obvious sound of the baton hitting cement,
no actual eyes on the "beating",
and questionable audio...\

I call BS.
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harvey007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 05:43 PM
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20. Someone should contact whoever posted the video
More details are needed. The Youtube posters need to provide more info.

This could be real or it could be a set up or it could be staged.

It seems very suspicious that the "friends" stand by and say nothing and do nothing.

Maybe the only one not "in on it" is the poor guy getting hit.

I'm withholding judgment on this one.

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