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The abyss Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 07:22 PM
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BP Oil Disaster EXCLUSIVE - NEW Kindra Arnesen's EXPLOSIVE New Revelations And Message to The World
 
Run time: 10:38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cksCB7HF-YI
 
Posted on YouTube: December 31, 2010
By YouTube Member: ProjectGulfImpact
Views on YouTube: 1206
 
Posted on DU: January 02, 2011
By DU Member: The abyss
Views on DU: 4603
 
I like this gal
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 07:40 PM
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1. What is she saying at the 7:29 and till 7:45 point?
Edited on Sat Jan-01-11 07:41 PM by truedelphi
I heard her say "the Government ain't the" and then I cannot make out the next twelve to fifteen seconds of what she is saying.

Anyway she is awesome.

I wish that Rachel Maddow had not gotten bought off by one visit to the WH and by one piece of Passed Legislation, as needed as that legislation was.

Rachel, you were great on the BP issue, but now you are giving Obama a free pass on this matter. Please go back to your excellent reporting and re-visit the Gulf and talk to people like this Kindra Arneson. She is one awesome lady!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 11:13 AM
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 02:16 PM
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21. truedelphi
She is saying the govt. is not the govt. the people in the gulf thought they had. The people need to demand accountability.
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 04:44 PM
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31. Thanks Molly. My sound system is in failure mode,
And i simply could not hear her for those fifteen or so important seconds.
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MrMickeysMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 02:22 PM
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22. Well... it may not be a real word, but the message I got was-
"Unless we hold accountable those we put into office, the government will not be of the people".

Thus, it has always been so, and it seems to be with the level of interest dropping off. They are going to represent we the people, who are out somewhere in fantasy land looking at the next shiny object or mindlessly looking at Net Flicks or HBO while assuming, "that was a crisis then, and now we move on"...

She's reminding us that we CANNOT move on unless we properly assess what's STILL going on, properly assigning responsibility for them that caused it!
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 04:43 PM
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30. TRhank you. This part of her address seemed very imporant, but
I couldn't get the sound on it no matter what I did.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 07:58 PM
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2. She is so thoughtful.... If people living there are getting sick, then so
can those visiting... 70 percent of migrant birds landing in this contaminated water... Good message- this contaminated water is going Global...
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 08:24 PM
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3. shared on facebook.
the disaster goes on.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 08:26 PM
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4. I really wish our tax dollars were 'at work ' to prevent the malaise being perpetuated
by the lack of real oversight. :mad:
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watstearns Donating Member (25 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 08:42 PM
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5. Petition for Federal Election Reform
Here is a petition to reform elections, so that Congress will
obey the people not corporations:
http://www.petitiononline.com/PoliTru3/petition.html
If we act together now, we can still save our country.
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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 09:00 PM
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6. Can't your Prez do anything about this?
Just sayin'. When will we ever be tired of being let down? I'm tired.............
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-11 01:25 AM
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36. Sorry to say that Obama is a Shill for BP. NT
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 09:14 PM
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7. Sadly DUers won't act on much of anything unless it's a hot topic on TV.
election reform will never be "an issue" on the MSM, so people here seem to think that it's not worth the effort. But I'll happily sign!
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Scruffy1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 01:51 PM
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18. As usual you hit the nail on the head
I keep watching the tempest in a teapot reactions over the latest news stories like Michael Vick, TSA patdowns and the latest bombast from some right wing nut. Little do we see a long range approach to changing the things that provoke our anger. I have been so much happier and see things much clearer since I have disconnected my TV. I suspect the MSM's main job is to distract the people from the real systemic problems. It's interesting to me that the outrage over being patted down, which happens to everyone picked up by the police, was much greater than over the FBI raids of peace activists simply because the media decided to play it up. It went away as soon as the media dropped it for the next "hot story".
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 02:22 PM
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23. Lorien
This really is a hot topic , compounded by the history of oil companies in doing similar crimes.

The less people who live around oil, the less they share their revenues. WE conduct wars to accomplish these goals. What about all the bunker busters in Iraq? Fallujah , which looked awfully trumped up to me. The babies there are deformed. Over a million dead Iraqis and even more left the country. WE would not guard the borders which makes no sense when WE also blame Iran for helping the Iraqi dissidents.The enormous number of missing weapons..eventually WE have to face the fact that tax dollars have been funding both sides of the war.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 02:50 PM
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25. Very Insightful... the irony is MSM is filled by liars and professional spinners
it has become the status quo. and those who are more susceptible to accept that status quo are doomed to being fools.
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PuraVidaDreamin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 06:36 AM
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12. + 1000
I'll work towards it, but congress is already doing whatever it wants despite the people.
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emcguffie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 03:40 PM
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26. I signed your petition.
To my mind, there are two things standing between us and an accountable, responsive government: the need for election reform that this petition addresses, and the problem of media conglomeration. The public is often oblivious to the truth because of the controlled corporate media. One such truth is the destruction of the integrity of our elections, which has been caused not just by the takeover of our elections by corporate money, but also by the complete corruption of the voting machines, which has also been carried out by wealthy corporations that support the GOP.

It is just my opinion, but I am convinced that we can't get anywhere until those two issues are successfully addressed.
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northoftheborder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 10:24 PM
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8. What is the date of this interview?
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The abyss Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 11:41 PM
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9. not sure
She is a gulf activist. I liked her message.
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Generic Other Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-01-11 11:53 PM
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10. Thanks for this
I have been wondering.
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Citizen Worker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 02:10 AM
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11. Kendra Arnesen defines citizenship.
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crim son Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 07:48 AM
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13. "People need to be slapped in the face..." Indeed they do.
The reality is, however, that it suits the ruling class better if people remain blind, deaf and dumb and so they shall.
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JJW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 09:00 AM
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14. Vacationing in Hawaii
Notice the President is staying away from the Gulf. They probably don't want BP skin lesions.
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 12:13 PM
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17. Uhh---the President is visting his homestate.
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tinkerbell41 Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 10:31 AM
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15. I have posted
All her videos on my Facebook NEVER got a comment. I don't get it. Well I do but baffling to me why all their other"shit" is more important than this. I don't know if they consider it a political subject or what.
I am enraged that it's being ignored. I don't believe the government doesn't care i think it's they don't know how to fix it, or it's too great an expense so they just sweep it under hoping it goes away. That is the issue. We are in trouble.
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 01:53 PM
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19. The answer is $imple we have the best Govt. that Money can buy!
Edited on Sun Jan-02-11 02:04 PM by sce56
Lots of stories have come out about the devastation and the covering up rather than cleaning up of the oil! To expensive to actually clean it just cover it up and hope it will fade away! Very little follow up from the M$M News infotainment centers, the last story I saw was from ABC and in it they showed the gulf sea floor by going down in a Bathysphere, the scientist studying the spill said 80 square miles were DEAD covered with 3-4 inches of oil killing all sea life on the floor! But don't worry be happy and smile as our world dies around us. A good movie to watch as to where we are heading is "The Road" they don't say why the world is dying in it but it shows the last life dying and people trying to find warmth and struggling to survive in a dying world.
Of course some of the best reporting is on DemocracyNow.

http://www.democracynow.org/tags/bp_oil_spill
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tinkerbell41 Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 04:20 PM
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28. True True.
No one in my family and friends circle even talks about it. I do, and they think I'm the nutty one!
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 02:28 PM
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24. tinkerbell41
I have quit posting videos too. Thought about posting this one. But we are programmed in the US to think that politics and religion are taboo subjects.

Have read that people in France actually enjoy talking about politics. They receive benefits for their tax dollars. Maybe there is a correlation. And I'll bet if hidden taxes were added up...they pay no more than we do.
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tinkerbell41 Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 04:19 PM
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27. But the weird thing
It's NOT political. We are talking about our OWN survival. It has been politicized by the media and corporations.
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 01:56 PM
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20. Kindra is soul-wrenching
Why isn't Rachel Maddow continuing her reports on the Gulf? Inquiring minds would like to know why she no longer considers it newsworthy.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 06:17 PM
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32. Write her and tell her to get on the ball.
It seems like she's juggling a lot of issues, most notably and recently DADT.
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 04:34 PM
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29. remarkable
thumbs up
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 06:19 PM
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33. I wish she had shown photographs of the spots and bruising. That needs documenting.
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localroger Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 07:18 PM
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34. I'm afraid I'm increasingly skeptical of her
Kindra tells a story that resonates with anyone who doesn't trust the government or corporations like BP. But I actually live in the New Orleans area and I do business all over the Gulf Coast, and I'm in constant contact with coworkers who are down these bayou roads every day. And I haven't heard a single story like this from any of these people I know, either directly or indirectly. I have heard of closed businesses and lost fishing boats and the many incidents of contamination that have, in fact, been reported in the media. I have not heard any whispers about people dropping like flies, getting strange rashes, hauling up massive amounts of unreported contaminated seafood, and so on.

I think that if these things were happening with the frequency Kindra claims I would have heard about them through some other channel.

I also suspect this is why Rachel Maddow isn't covering it. Rachel was virtually alone in actually coming down here, going to the affected areas, and talking with local people who actually knew what they were talking about. I can't imagine that she would ignore a followup story of this magnitude, unless it could not be substantiated.

There appears to be a small but very vocal little industry creating and putting out these internet vids meant to portray the Gulf spill as having had a much worse effect than anybody I personally know has observed. Not to say that it wasn't bad, but it doesn't need to be made worse than it really is and the reality that I'm seeing is that bird populations are holding stable (birders are themselves quite vocal on the internet, you should check out some of their discussions), and that while much of the oil may be lurking ominously on the floor of the Gulf it is so far not showing up in the food chain or nearly as much as anyone expected onshore. And the marshes seem to be doing what marshes do, which is filter the water and the effects have mostly been limited to a very narrow strip along the shoreline where there are effects at all.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-02-11 07:26 PM
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35. K&R
I wish it were possible Kindra. Turning off the teevees would be a great place to start. It would slow if not stop the subliminal messaging in large part. Slow down the processing of the myriad of diversionary tactics that Americans can't see -- indeed that they have been trained to ignore, while they're robbed blind. But it will take more than this, however. More than the honest pleading and stating of the facts of what is really happening -- in order to wake us up.

- Much more.....

"For such a big country, the "American experience" is extremely narrow and provincial, leaving its people with approximately the same comprehension of the outside world as an oyster bed. Yet there is that relentless busyness of Nortenians. That sort of constant movement that indicates all parties are busy-busy-busy, but offers no clue as to just what they are busy at.

We can be sure however, that it has to do with consuming. Everything in America has to do with consuming. So much so that we find not the slightest embarrassment in calling ourselves "the consumer society." Which is probably just as well, since calling ourselves something such as "the just society" might have been aiming a bit too high? Especially for a nation that never did find enough popular support to pass any of the 200 anti-lynching bills brought before its Congress (even Franklin Roosevelt refused to back them).

On the other hand, there is no disputing that we do reduce all things to consumption. Or acquiring money for consumption. Or paying on the debt for past consumption. It keeps things simple, and stamps them as authentically American.

For example, now faced with what may be the biggest ecological disaster in human history, I'm hearing average Americans up here talk of the Gulf oil "spill" (when they speak of it at all -- TV gives the illusion those outside the Gulf region give a shit), in terms of its effect on: (A) the price of seafood; and (B) jobs in tourism and fishing. Only trolls stunted by generations of inbred American style capitalism could do such a thing: reduce a massive ocean dead zone to the cost of a shrimp cocktail or a car payment."

~ http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2010/06/live-from-planet-norte.html">Joe Bageant
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