Young conservative book panel becomes awkard confrontation between exes (on C-span2)

[Enrique]

Run time: 05:02 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BV_5m3nySo   Posted on YouTube: October 18, 2010 By YouTube Member: 831johna Views on YouTube: 310   Posted on DU: October 18, 2010 By DU Member: Enrique Views on DU: 6299

 
Young conservative book panel becomes awkward confrontation between exes

A C-SPAN2 discussion spiraled into one man's angry tirade against his National Review-contributor ex-girlfriend Video

Normally, one would not expect great entertainment from a panel discussion, aired on C-SPAN2, made up of contributors to a new Jonah Goldberg-edited collection of essays by young conservative writers. But great entertainment is just what Book TV's six viewers got when panelist Todd Seavey leveled bizarre accusations against -- and unloaded years worth of simmering resentment on -- his co-panelist and ex-girlfriend Helen Rittelmeyer.

Here, from the Daily Caller, is a partial transcript:

Seavey: I probably should confess that Helen and I dated for two years, so we’ve sparred about many things. It might come as a surprise to some of you that we dated for two years, not just because we have ideological differences, but because there are probably some people in this room who also dated Helen during those two years, given how tumultuous it got. It was sort of on again, off again.

Rittelmeyer: “I’m in favor of combativeness.”

Seavey: “And, at at times her gamesmanship would include even coldly saying that she was gonna play matchmaker and set up a couple and then seduce the man away to play with his mind and hurt the woman, which when you think about it is pretty creepy. Kinda disturbing.

Rittelmeyer: “Is all this going on CSPAN?”

[KeepItReal]

1. Something is wrong with that lady. He spelled it out!

:rofl:

[tomm2thumbs]

2. creepy all around

[Radical Activist]

3. holy crap.

funny, sad, and embarrassing for all involved.

[lumberjack_jeff]

4. That was pretty high on the f'ing awesome scale!

:rofl:

[The Wielding Truth]

5. Did you get what she said? If she had a limit?

[tomg]

6. More Conservative Family Values

"set up a couple and then seduce the man away to play with his mind and hurt the woman" -

[butterfly77]

24. Aren't republicon/conservatives..

against premartial sex?

[kenfrequed]

37. I have no idea anymore.

I think they might just be pro hypocracy.

[WhiteTara]

71. isn't that spelled

hypocrazy?

[activa8tr]

44. No, only the fundie faction and that's down to O'Donnell ...and a few.

people of lesser intelligence than Christine.

Sarah Palin's daughter is the role model for the New Conservatives, have a baby (or two) and get separated, resume the relationship, have the guy insult your mother and fool around, and break it off completely.

Family values.

[MedicalAdmin]

65. Aren't Republicon/conservatives against premarital sex?

The answer is NO, NO, NO --- only YOUR premarital sex. And of course any of that icky gay stuff that they are so darned curious about.

[JDPriestly]

75. I was wondering. What does this Catholic woman do with a man

once she has "seduced him" to mess with his mind and hurt his girl friend?

Who would be so crazy about such a cold, hateful young woman -- only a masochist.

This woman is not capable of a loving, giving, sharing relationship.

And if that man were capable of a loving, giving, sharing relationship, he would not be a right-wing conservative.

[urgk]

7. Now there's a conservative I could have a conversation with.

I don't think I'd want to debate him, but that was incredibly entertaining.

[Ian David]

8. They all have strangely shaped heads. n/t

[XanaDUer]

13. Yes

they do.

[mikeysnot]

61. I expect to hear Dueling banjos

playing in the background....

[Enthusiast]

64. It's the incest....nt

[HillbillyBob]

72. Betcha its the vacuum inside.

They have trouble finding libruls to lie to because we smell their shit comin and its no debate if you are insulting rude and wrong.

konservative is another word for wholly selfish and self centered.

[Ian David]

9. They are gonna have such AWESOME missionary-position make-up sex with the lights off!

Now I want to see the rest of the fight!

This is one of the funniest things I have seen all week.

Okay, it's only Monday, but still...

[JDPriestly]

76. I guess that is what makes her a good, Catholic girl.

She only agrees to have sex if the light is off. That way, God can't see.

Her priest must have difficulty getting through her confessions. Can you imagine what she has to confess to?

[Ian David]

78. She's an Atheist. n/t

[CLANG]

10. Are they aliens? They seem to be. The cranky one may be their leader.

[Ian David]

11. I just sent that to Stephanie Miller, Thom Hartmann, Keith Olbermann, Marc Maron, Best of The Left..

... The Soup, Tosh.0... Oh, this is too good not to share.

[loudsue]

56. That is something like Tosh.O should put on. John Stewart would be the most likely one

to show it, however. This is too entertaining to have a small audience.

[herbm]

12. Nasty little bunch. Makes one want shower oneself and use a fire hose on them.

[awoke_in_2003]

38. I have to agree...

I was brought up with the belief that a gentlemen doesn't kiss and tell.

[Celtic Merlin]

14. Both of them have a personal appearance which makes them look like thrwobacks to the early 1960's.

The hair, the clothes, the conservatism (at least on her part) are all reminiscent of 1962 mainstream, conventional people. They're eerily similar to Ward and June Cleaver in many ways. For those two years that they dated, they probably slept in separate beds!

I kept expecting one of them (probably her) to use the word, "beatnik" or maybe "hippie" - though "hippie" was invented a couple years after '62 (I think).

Glad I missed the whole discussion and I'm not happy that I wasted 5 minutes on the clip presented here - and then two more minutes typing THIS!

I'm out.

Celtic Merlin
Carlinist

[Enrique]

15. a Goldwater Girl n/t

[fascisthunter]

16. weird isn't it...?

I've noticed the same thing over the years... it's like dress-code.

[JDPriestly]

17. When I was in college, all those many years ago, I investigated

the ideas of the extreme right (Ayn Rand, etc.) as well as those of the extreme left (Marx, Engels, and even Trotsky). I rejected them all because I found, as this man explains, that in each case, they were cruel. They just wanted people to suffer.

That is when I decided to be a liberal. I would like to have a world in which there is less anger and suffering.

I can't figure out how that young woman could seduce any man who wasn't a masochist to begin with. But, then, maybe all of her boyfriends are masochists. Could explain a lot about conservatives.

[AlbertCat]

19. But, then, maybe all of her boyfriends are masochists.

Nope...just conservatives. I mean they have no taste. Look at what they read and write!

[Aristophrenia]

32. Which part of Marx ?

What exactly did you read ? Das Kapital ?
Are you sure your weren't drinking Bromide ?

[Rozlee]

54. Doesn't it explain to you why...

...conservative men have boners over the likes of Palin, O'Donnell, and Bachmann? If this young woman is what they have to resort to for dates, the Witchy Women (or twitchy women in Bachmann's case) are the reason that Teabaggers are drooling. In the real world, they have to pork creepy girls with glasses that can see microbes.

[HankyDubs]

63. It's unfortunate

that you didn't understand Marx. It happens.

[JDPriestly]

74. Marx speaks of inevitability.

If the workers' state is so inevitable, why is it almost always necessary to have a violent revolution to install it in power?

I do not like the inevitable violence that is a part of Marxism in the real world.

I also do not like the violence of fascism.

And I do not like the violence in our society.

I do believe that we could have a far less violent society and live better as a result.

[Ramulux]

18. I loved this

This was way more interesting than what I thought it would be from the title. The dude basically calls out this bitch for being a ridiculous Ayn-Rand loving, libertarian weirdo, and he does it by using some personal stories from when they were dating. The chick is way egotistical and holier-than-though so its great to see this guy immediately call her out.

[ThomasQED]

26. Yeah did you catch her "It builds character"

when he was talking about suffering? Sure, it could have been a joke, but wouldn't you and I be smarter than to make that kind of joke with a camera running?

[awoke_in_2003]

39. you would think...

and the lady is wrong- suffering doesn't build character, but a lot of people with character seem to suffer -maybe because they won't sell their soul to the highest bidder.

[CLANG]

20. At the end, she was cut off, but she said:

"what do I think? That you shouldn't pour your heart out on C-SPAN" - something like that.

[Charleston Chew]

21. Proud To Be Right

http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/295932-1

[livingonearth]

22. Whoa...

that's some creepy Conservative creepiness there!
Is it just me, or do those two look related?
:puke:

[baldguy]

23. It's creepy because he's being honest.

[ThomasQED]

25. She said liberals are the majority and ill-informed

We know the latter is untrue, but did the former strike anyone? I always thought conservatives considered themselves "the norm" and the majority and liberals are supposed to be freaks of nature.

That said, I only found it uncomfortable for a few sentences and he really destroyed her, and she denied none of it (at least in this clip, I'll have to look for what happened next).

She admits that she wants to increase suffering. Young Republican ideed.

[Alcibiades]

36. Conservative intellectuals are a strange breed

They have nurtured a deep sense of wounding for several generations, ever since the activism of the 1960's, when their intellectual grandfathers felt threatened by anti-war and civil rights protests, especially those that occupied buildings. They feel their minority status in the world of letters quite deeply.

They also live in a world so insulated by foundation money and so remote from the real world of human beings that they can talk about things such as the need to increase human suffering without irony.

[MrScorpio]

27. Pretty much some proof right there that conservatism is a mental disease. nt

[loudsue]

57. It truly is a mental disease. And when they say "9/11 changed everything", they mean

that it now allows all the sociopaths in our society to come out of the closet. Loud & proud.

[pa28]

28. Awesome. Watch it!

:rofl:

[HatTrick]

29. Never heard of Helen Rittelmeyer

I've never heard of Helen Rittelmeyer before, but seems like a nasty little Ann Coulter wanna be.
What amazed me the most is he dated that nasty witch.

[GoCubsGo]

49. What amazes me even more...

...is that she dated HIM--AND another guy on the side, apparently. ICK!!!

[KT2000]

30. American Council on Science and Health

Corporate view of health issues in this country.
Sounds like they deserve each other - what a bunch of lunatics.

[benld74]

31. Seavey - EHHHHHH, Rittelmeyer - UMMMMM, Seavey -EHHHH, Rittelmeyer - UMMMMMM

RIVETING conversation to say the most of these two mid 60's throwbacks.

[Aristophrenia]

33. There is a sure fire way to tell when someone is stupid

and thats the use of "-ISMS" - only the most profoundly informed (Zizek), Habbermas, Hegel, Foucault can ever resort to this type
of language as it is part of their dialect - those who resort to it outside of their literature do so as a facade of intelligence masking their
feckless prowess.

[AlbertCat]

34. OY!

I hadn't watched it because I was busy, but I have now.... well the few minutes I could stand... and....

Y'know, pretentious "intellectuals" that are liberal are bad enough, but this is like Deepak Chopra meets Sara Palin. Vicious, petty, untrue, blind, egotistical crap dressed up as learned discourse with big made up words and curious phrasing that have no roots in reality instead of vicious, petty, untrue, blind, egotistical crap dressed up as bumper stickers.

Useless.

[thelordofhell]

35. It's like if George Will dated Ann Coulter

Bitter ex knows no political ideology.

[iamthebandfanman]

40. hmmm, wonder if they had pre-marriage relations...

ack never mind, forgive me for even attempting to put that sick imagery into anybody elses mind ...

[Hissyspit]

41. She is an idiot.

Really. What a dingbat.

[Sen. Walter Sobchak]

42. Atlas Puked...

Who the fuck goes out of their way to look like an extra-frumpy Ayn Rand?



A number of years ago I was on the receiving end of a bizarre sexual harassment situation that included a woman who was just a little too keen on Basic Instinct, but this chick seems even more disturbed.

[trumad]

46. She's got purty lips.

[truthrocks]

43. Excellent gotcha put-down - his voice/demeanor never changed

and the creepy truths about her just rolled off his tongue like the rest of his speech - no emotional charge, just the facts - delicious!

[activa8tr]

45. These people's brains are butt ugly when they are allowed to spew this ..

garbage out there like a Jerry Springer show.

Goes to show that a Yale education doesn't wipe out all of the trashy ugliness their brains are born with.

[loudsue]

59. George bush junior went to Yale. There must be some subculture there that cultivates

sociopaths intentionally. Why would an institution of higher learning with a relatively good reputation spend an empty desk on people like this? That slot/seat/opening could have been filled with a student who actually wanted to HELP the world.

[onlyadream]

47. Pain and suffering builds character

that's when I had to stop the video - the girl said it in the background when they were talking about repealing HCR. What the heck is wrong with these people? Do they think they are impervious to cancer or any other disease? How about a loved one? A child?

[Flipper999]

50. They assume (correctly) that they will be cared for.

The have health insurance, and they often have rich donors. If they are successful shilling for corporate interests, they'll be allowed to live inside of the comfortable conservative womb for the duration of their lives.

The really strange conservatives are the poorer, uninsured, psuedo intellectual types. Spending their time rereading Ayn Rand and Nietzsche endlessly. Powerless rubes who imagine themselves to be supermen. That is, until the universe finally says "No", and they end up with the health or financial problems that strike most people. Or old age takes them, and they fade into the night with a whimper.

[onlyadream]

58. Imo those are the ones

who are super religious and get hung up on right to life issues. They're easily manipulated.

[alcibiades_mystery]

62. She sounds like a 14 year old boy who profoundly misunderstands Nietzsche

[JDPriestly]

77. I have a feeling that once this video makes the rounds on YouTube

and e-mail, this young lady is going find out just how it feels to suffer enough to build some character.

At the least, she will probably want to change her hairstyle or put on a burka so that she won't be immediately recognized on the street.

What self-respecting man would talk to her, much less date her after they have seen this video?

She did not deny anything that her ex-boyfriend said. She did not cry. She seemed to acknowledge the truth of his statements. Very strange.

[dotymed]

48. An honest look

at the conservatives "family values." A bunch of warped, me first, sick bastards (if that can encompass a female too).

[SecularMotion]

51. The faces of DU trolls

These are the types I picture when thinking of the twisted, bitter, creeps who would troll a Democratic website.

[HughBeaumont]

52. Picturing those two doing the nasty is giving me abdominal cramps.

ehhhhhhhh . . uummmmmmmmmmmm . .ehhhhhhhhhhh . . . ummmmmmmmmmm . . .

[blondeatlast]

53. Ms. Perfect Catholic gets her kikkkies

on innocent people suffering. Nice.

[AlbertCat]

73. Ms. Perfect Catholic gets her kikkkies on innocent people suffering.

Where would Catholicism be without all that suffering? all those martyred saints and the big Cheesus on the cross? They LOVE suffering. They LIVE for it! Even the lowliest must at least suffer endless guilt.

[jsgindc]

55. For Halloween.....

She could go as Phyllis Shafley's lesbian daughter.

That is one sour puss face.

[valerief]

60. What a waste of oxygen. nt

[CatWoman]

66. that was enjoyable

:rofl:

[hisownpetard]

67. Blech. eom

[ProfessorPlum]

68. best/worst part is Jonah 'doughy pantload' Goldberg's girlish, nervous laughter

that is all

[GreenEyedLefty]

70. That was weird and creepy.

[Can of Whoop-ass]

69. This

should've been on the Bill O'Twitty show at FOX.