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WillParkinson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 07:08 AM
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Focus On The Family: Anti-Bullying Efforts Promotes Homosexuality In Kids
 
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 07:12 AM
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1. Focus on Family = focus on stupidity
Edited on Thu Sep-02-10 07:34 AM by AlbertCat
Is there ANYTHING they approve of? Anything at all?


Candy is disingenuous. She talks about all the "many" different things kids are bullied about. But then she can only come up with 4: Fat, glasses, race and gay. In the reality of the playground, fat kids are accused of being gay. Kids with glasses are accused of being gay. Black kids are also accused of being gay. Good in art class? Gay. Bad at football? Gay. Skinny? Gay Doesn't like the bands the bully likes? Gay. Gay is the ubiquitous insult. For boys at least. Girls, I would think, get "slut" too.... another sexual insult. Sex is there. It must be mentioned to address the problem. Probably why teachers and administrators don't want to get involved and address the problem.
This is what the other women are trying to point out, but Candy ignores this truth for some vague all inclusive BS. The only all inclusive thing here is at some point, the bullied will be called gay. That's the reality on the play ground.
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MsPithy Donating Member (325 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 10:38 AM
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10. Most excellent comment!
Thank you, you describe the real world, Focus on the Family, not so much. That FotF even gets a seat at the table enrages me.
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CurtEastPoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 07:28 AM
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2. I watched this clip and the FOTF woman is a complete idiot
Kept repeating the same old lies and not answering the questions.
Anderson did a good job of asking the right questions. She came off as a stupid person. How shocking!
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mediaman007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 07:29 AM
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3. Bullying promotes battered wives and children!
But the Promise Keepers are supposed to be the head of the household. Wives and children should be deferential to the man.
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southmost Donating Member (528 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 07:31 AM
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4. james dobson=pervert
the head of this american taliban group also believes showing
his man parts to his sons in the shower prevents homosexuality
:crazy: 
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 07:48 AM
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5. Well in the 60's I heard homophobes running around calling guys with long hair fags
because in their belief system guys with long hair wanted to be female so that meant homosexual. Whenever I ran into one of these types I always told them no gay guys did not want to be with guys who looked like girls they wanted to be with men that look like them, it always got two reactions, 1) silence 2) a fight, odd thing was they soon learned losing a fight to a guy with long hair hurt their male egos so they reverted to silence. That was when I learned about the conservatives knack for projection, in order for them to let out their homosexual urges guys had to look like girls, so gay guys wanted female looking men because conservative homosexual straight men wanted guys who looked feminine. Really you had to live during that time period where 99% of the right wing nuttery started.
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herbm Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 08:23 AM
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6. Parents don't want gayness discussed with kids? Too late. They already have thier misconceptions.
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AldebTX Donating Member (739 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 09:15 AM
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7. Kids are Discussing It With Parents
are the parents supposed to ignore the discussion?
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herbm Donating Member (980 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 12:20 PM
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11. No kid in thier right mind would be discussing with my parents. I have friends in thier fifties who
still in the closet with thier parents. As a parent who has three wonderful kids, I do not remember having a "gay" discussion with my kids. Fortunately that worked out, but then they weren't gay. An awful lot of parents of gays kids start the discussion with something like "the Bible says gay is wrong, followed by don't come home until you work this thing out". Anybody who thinks that schools shouldn't ursurp parential responsibility is dreaming because parents miss a lot of issues and don't discuss as much as lay down the law, and even if they would be totaly understanding, it doesn't deal with the issue of bullying (the real issue here) or the fact that other parents are teaching "stand up for yourself" not "do not bully for any reason." And our kids are dying over it and the Family Firsters contibute to that fact.
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axollot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 09:39 AM
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8. My son is bisexual and was a target in elementary school for being
flamboyant. As he matured he also learned how to "hide" as many LGBT do while in school - they assimilate the best they can because the difference they feel inside they want to hide as much as possible on the outside.

When my son "came out" (we knew and it's not an issue within the home or within our extended family) to his friends in freshman yr in high school and was open about it - his friends told him they all already knew and treated him the same but he became the target again of vicious attacks in school. Which I was not made aware of till much later. What he ended up doing was cutting himself, he started drinking, skipping school etc. Most of which I had no clue about and it wasnt until later that he told me about it. Despite being very hands on with strong family support on both sides including our extended family.

I think my son survived his experience because of his family and our openness and acceptance of him for simply being him. He is now a JR in HS, an honour student, in marching band and no longer a target. He no longer cuts himself or cares what other people think of his sexuality. He is no longer drinking, doesnt smoke (we are smokers) or even smoke pot. He is home in the evening and we always talk about the issues of the day. I'm very proud of him - it's not easy being different growing up.

People that say one chooses to be gay are so clueless to reality. One doesnt choose to be something that society (in the US especially) shuns and treats as "less than". The biggest issue my son had about his sexuality - regardless of family support was the fact that to himself he wasnt "normal".

He once said to me (before he was "out" to anyone outside of our family) was how much he wished he was "normal" how he wanted to grow up, have a wife and have kids. And that he hated how he felt. At one time he didnt understand why he liked guys but found he was also attracted to girls (but not as much). Talk about confusing. Isnt puberty and being a teenager hard enough without the complexity of sexuality?

Openness, education on the issues and talking a LOT is the key to raising a child to be a decent adult. Many of these kids that do the bullying have issues within themselves and many have parents that they are emulating - their parents probably put down gay people (or fat etc) they see on TV or when they are out and about. Kids see and hear everything you do whether one realises it or not. Take smoking for example - I dont just say "don't smoke it's bad for you" but talk about it. I talk about if I could go back and never pick up a cigarette, the pain of addiction, the frustration of being addicted to them and the difficulty in quiting. We've started talking about it from when the kids were very young as they understand more than anyone gives them credit. No, kids arent little adults but they're not stupid either. Honesty and cannot stress this enough - talking to your kids is the best approach to raise a child to be caring, decent adults. (we also have a 7yr old and a 21yr old son that is a nurses aid in college to be a nurse).

This was something so close to home for us and FotF is being disingenuous about the problem of bullying. The tactic they suggest is a tried and failed one being sold as a new approach.

/rant off

Cheers
Sandy
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nonoxy9 Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-02-10 09:59 AM
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9. FOTF wants kids to have the right to discriminate. Period!
They don't want kids to be punished for calling others names like "fag" or "dyke" because they think it's alright! 50 years ago these were the people who wanted the right to use the "N" word openly. BIGOTS!
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