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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 03:45 PM
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ACLU fears Obama solidifying new normal
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 04:05 PM by Capitalocracy
 
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Posted on DU: August 04, 2010
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Obama is continuing and expanding on some of Bush's policies, leading the ACLU to fear that his administration will create a "new normal" where the rule of law, legal representation of the accused, and due process before punishment or execution are a thing of the past.

I know, I know, Obama's better than Bush or McCain or Palin, but we have to be wary of this sort of thing. Please don't be hatin'.

Video by YouTube's The Punk Patriot. (He sells T-shirts.)
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:05 PM
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1. Obama has done what Bush, Cheney, McCain, and Palin could never have done...
He's rallied about half the Dems to favor torture, extra-judicial killings, war escalation, whistle-blower harassment, government spying on Americans, and on and on.

If we had a repuke president, we'd still be against those things.

Think about what Obama has accomplished.
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:11 PM
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2. A real leader and a true visionary.
I have a dream that one day, we can set aside our differences and agree to become a fascist nation of torturers and murderers!

:patriot:
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Goldstein1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 06:43 PM
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5. Can you imagine how dangerous this nation would become
if it did set aside its internal differences and had nothing to fear and hate but "others."

I believe what's really happening is that the majority of the nation, including the Democratic Party, has been abandoning principles and falling into a sort of ethics-free and amoral group think euphemistically labeled "pragmatism." Unlike principles, pragmatism allows torture and accepts plausible deniability as a substitute for innocence. Poverty is okay, just as long as the poverty-stricken don't vote and continue to serve as fodder for illegal wars. Justice is reduced to a simple process, and the rules are folded, spindled and mutilated to make the process produce the desired outcome.
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 04:42 PM
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3. Guess this doesn't bother most of DU!
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-05-10 04:26 PM
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6. I guess you're right
although I think in general people don't look at a lot of vlogs here
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skeptical cynic Donating Member (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 06:38 PM
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4. I think it bother's what's left of the True Left
But it won't bother the Left that's only just left of Center (i.e. The New Democratic Party).
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