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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 08:59 AM
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'America will collapse'
 
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Posted on YouTube: March 09, 2009
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Posted on DU: August 04, 2010
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 09:07 AM
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1. Is the audio bad or is it me?
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 09:22 AM
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3. The timing is a little off.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 09:22 AM
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2. Orlov is a quack. He's said some crazy ass shit.
Collapse, no. Shrink, probably.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 09:40 AM
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4. A quack like Charles Dickens
"It was the best of times, it was the worst of times."

Having seen one bad outcome, he has valuable advice for people contemplating another.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:10 AM
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5. No really. Check some of his other stuff.
If he's right it's just because if you say enough crazy things, one of them is bound to be true.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:16 AM
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6. He is a pessimist
And that's why optimists like yourself dismiss him.
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:21 AM
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7. I'm pretty far from an optimist. More like a cynic on overdrive.
Edited on Wed Aug-04-10 10:24 AM by YOY
I'm just cynical to everyone and everything. He could actually be right about this...doesn't change his track record.

This country is going down because we primarily did not heed Ike's words about the MIC...more likely a fizzle than a bang though.

That's not something an optimist usually says.
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Newest Reality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-04-10 10:34 AM
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8. There are still many
ways to look at the current crises.

Right now, it is best to divest one's self of the spin of illusions that are meant to support the social and economic order -- job one for the Status Quo. You can go with the shock of realization after-the-fact, or you can submit yourself to a gradual realization that affords you time to go through some stages and various forms of preparation. It is a significant choice.

That's a personal decision and knee-jerk reactions can be a facet of denial. In a crises, who would you rather be with? When this hits those who are still in comfort bubbles, (the last ones to pop) their shock and awe will not be very useful. Understanding goes a long way, no matter how upsetting or depressing it may seem.

I've followed Orlov's perspective for several years and it jibes with other information available. You can add Bageant, Baker and Kuntsler to that list of people who, from their own research and understanding, offer insights and ideas when it comes to the impending systemic collapse. Orlov is certainly worth considering because of his comparisons.
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