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thomhartmann Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 06:55 PM
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Thom Hartmann Spanks a Conservative on ObamaCare
 
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FarLeftFist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 07:19 PM
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1. 3 points...
1- Moffitt keeps claiming that every American has to buy insurance when clearly there is a big window of people who will be exempt
2- Even if medicaid pays doctors less, wouldn't the increase in patients just be more money in the docs pocket? Why turn new money/future customers down?
3- Why do cons believe "facts" that aren't even stated in the actual legislation? Is this really the new zeitgeist of the human race, a world which facts and lies are one and the same?

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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 07:46 PM
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2. #3--pretty much
sad, but true.
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dencol Donating Member (297 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 09:07 PM
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3. It depends for point number 2.
Many physicians aren't accepting new patients and have waiting lists that span weeks, or even months.
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Francisco Donating Member (132 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 09:57 PM
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4. Got to admit both made valid points..
but the conservative was way off base on how he dismissed the public option.
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 11:02 PM
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5. Then why do republicans state bullshit that isn't even stated in the actual
Edited on Wed Jul-14-10 11:31 PM by GreenTea
legislation as their argument? Is this really the new zeitgeist of the human race, a world which facts and lies are one and the same? - (Thanks FarLeftFist I paraphrased your excellent third point).

Then this republican convinces you (and others) he made some "valid points" but they were based on lies and language not even written into the actual bill?

Anyone can seem to be making their point if they are lying about the facts, as Thom was trying to point out, that the very wealth republican MD from the neocon Heritage Foundation chose to ignore...These fabulously wealthy doctors and insurance corporations don't want to lose a fucking nickel from what they have and are making, overcharging and receiving from the government through OUR taxes, they have a hugely profitable legal racket going and want it left alone and don't want government forcing the poor to have health care and treated...fuck the uninsured as far as they are concerned....it's unprofitable to be forced to treat them...and they'll lie at every turn to distort the true facts the greedy heartless bastards.

Just like the republicans telling the gullible that there's "death panels" written into the legislation and people actually believe that shit too.
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