Countdown: Jim DeMint's own record (and mouth) make the case FOR Alvin Greene for Senate

[Tx4obama]

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[Divine Discontent]

1. yep... anything is better than DeMint. So Greene, I hope you win!

[Tx4obama]

2. I would love it....

if Greene were to win then the republicans would lose ONE of their votes!
Even if Greene were to win and then just stay home it would be better than having DeMint in DC casting votes.

Hopefully the electronic voting machines will mess up once again and Greene will win the general election in November! ;)

[WileEcoyote]

3. Greene could have a wild card effect

being so far removed from conventional politics he could generate a lot of underdog type sympathy.

It's also Demint's race to lose. The GOP candidate could prove to be his own worst enemy.

Hard to figure how Greene's campaign team (if he even has one) needs to play this election.

Sort of becomes a game. In the entertainment category.

[bjobotts]

4. Nice try but Greene mysteriously gets money to pay $10k filing fee despite no campaining

[Tx4obama]

5. It is NOT a mystery.

I see no reason to think that the money was not his.

Alvin Greene was receiving a military paycheck for many years (he is not married and has no kids to support).

The last nine months after leaving the military he has been living with his father and older brother, James Jr., in his father's house and probably not paying any rent.

His father/family is not poor. His father, James Greene, retired from the Clemson Extension Program where he used to teach, also at one time he was a barber and a nightclub owner. And James Jr., is a 47-year-old corrections officer at Wateree correctional facility.

He received 'extra pay' for serving in Korea. Greene stated in an interview he decided to run for the senate two years ago while in Korea. (We don't know how much money he had already saved up until that time, and we don't know how long he served in Korea or how much 'extra pay' he received for doing so.)
It would be very easy for him to save up a good percentage of his military pay.
And he has stated that he used his unemployment check money for 'gasoline' to travel around South Carolina.

Why are so many people having such a problem with the idea that an ex-military man was able to save up $10,000?

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Greene was a supply specialist (with a four year BA degree in political science) and spent an unknown about of time in Korea.

1) Specialist (abbreviated "SPC") is one of the four junior enlisted ranks in the U.S. Army, just above Private First Class and equivalent in pay grade to Corporal. Unlike Corporals, Specialists are not considered junior non-commissioned officers (NCO).

2) New recruits enlisting into the United States Army who have earned a four-year degree, and as of 2006 those with civilian-acquired job skills, will enter as a Specialist.<1> Typically, newly recruited Officer Candidates hold the rank of Specialist when enlisted and during BCT/AIT (Basic Combat Training, Advanced Individual Training) prior to their official enrollment into OCS (Officer Candidate School) they will be granted a Pay Grade of E-5 (as of early 2009) but hold a rank of Officer Candidate (OC), not a Sergeant (SGT).

3) Pay grade E-4 , Corporal * Specialist

So what does an E-4 make per year? Or E-5? Answer: Somewhere around $2,000-$2,500 per month.

Also, of note: Korea Area Incentive Program

KAIP typically pays a member $300 (taxable) extra per month for every month that they are in Korea. Over a 2 year tour, this can amount to an extra $7,200. Some units may allow a member to renew KAIP for a third year. Typically, if a member gains accompanied status (called command sponsorship), then their regular tour is extended to 2 years. If they sign up for KAIP then it becomes a 3 year tour.

[bjobotts]

7. Despite all votes were on machines with no paper trail when many came forward saying machines broken

as they kept saying "thank you for voting for Greene" when they voted for the other candidate. Also nearly all mail in votes were for the other guy AND exit polls heavily favored other dem. candidate (so why were they so wrong?). This one was rigged for sure so DeMint could run against this Greene who is also up on possible felony charges for showing porno on campuses.

This primary is obvious as can be for blatant election fraud just to see if anyone would challenge these electronic voting machines. Greene was unemployed,has no experience, did no campaigning and no advertising and still came up with $10,00 filing fee and won big over an experienced candidate who spent thousands campaigning all over the state with multiple radio and TV ads.

Cowardly dems in SC will not challenge the obvious fix and the rest of us have to deal with the consequences. Greene is a losing choice even if he wins. Election fraud will run rampant in the mid terms as no dem leadership will stand up because they are afraid that dem voters won't vote if they think their vote is discounted. But if they vote with fraudulent machines their votes are discounted anyway. Dems leave the same choice... apathy or vote changing. Either way they will lose unless they challenge and get rid of electronic voting machines which have been proven subject to manipulation.

The beating heart of democracy is controlled by private corporations who refuse any checks or monitoring

[bjobotts]

8. One look at Greene tells me DeMint will win by default. What a shame.

[Tx4obama]

9. The filing fee is a 'non-issue', see my previous comment. BUT....

I do believe the electronic voting machines are defective.

Yesterday I watched a good part of Vic Rawl's protest hearing in SC.
The folks voted to reject Rawl's protest due to the fact that he couldn't prove that 'enough votes' were invalid in order to invalidate the election. Many people there stated that there probably IS a problem with the machines, but it was not proven during the hearing so they said they couldn't bring themselves to nullify the election. Pretty hard to PROVE that machines are not working when there is no paper back up and no access to the actual machines used. BUT they did say that they are going to work on the 'machine' issue and that this issue won't be ignored.

[demwing]

12. The filing fee is NOT an "non-issue" because three months earlier

Greene had claimed to be in need of a Public Defender.

How is that a non-issue?

[Tx4obama]

13. Two different issues.

We were talking about 'where' Greene's money could have came from for his senate race filing fee.
If it was a mystery or not. I was explaining that it would have been easy for him to have savings from his military pay.
The issue that he 'probably lied to the court in order to get a free public defender' has no relevance to the issue of how he accumulated the money for his senate filing fee. That issue has nothing to do with the issue of how he could have saved up his money.

I agree that Greene is going to be in big trouble for telling the court that he had no money and requested a public defender, but his 'statement to the court' does not mean that Greene didn't really have money saved up that he didn't tell the court about.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

11. should all contests in the SC primary be overturned, or just Greene's

you see, if the Democratic Party had ruled against Greene based on the voting machine
issue, then they might face having the entire election for all contests overturned.

While it makes no sense that Greene even ran, I know an convicted felon/murderer who runs for congress almost ever time there's a primary. Everyone in the district knows who he is so the party makes sure
that his opponent in the primary gets good support.

[jjewell]

6. Nope, Sorry...

But Alvin Greene presented himself to be an inarticulate idiot during his Countdown interview
with Olbermann. This isn't "Mr Smith Goes to Washington". This is a likely felon and possible
Republican "tool" to ensure DeMint's re-election. The South Carolina Democratic Party has only
itself to blame for not properly vetting its US Senate candidates. Don't expect me to support a
loser simply because he claims to be a Democrat.

Greene got a public defender for his indecency arrest because he claimed to be broke, BEFORE he came
up with ten grand to run for the US Senate.

[OswegoAtheist]

10. The Enemy of my Enemy isn't necessarily my friend....

Yeah, DeMint is a terrible Senator with obvious, gigantic flaws, but I have yet to hear Greene articulate a policy position, I can't find a campaign website, and quite frankly the whole shebang smells rotten. I wouldn't cast a vote for either of them.

Oswego "Mostly because I don't live in South Carolina" Atheist

[herbm]

14. Talk about an at least close to E.R. Murrow moment. I will remember this one for a long time.