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mystieus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 07:42 PM
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Helen Thomas was Wrong, but Who's Right?
 
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"After video hit YouTube of eighty-nine year old reporter Helen Thomas, telling an interviewer that Israelis should "get out of Palestine" and go back to Poland and Germany and other places, the white House issued an immediate condemnation. Reprehensible was their word. In the ritual flagellation that's followed, one can't help thinking that the grande dame of the White House press corps would have gotten less grief if she'd purposely cheated the financial system and took taxpayer money to recover."
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ellenfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 07:47 PM
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1. i disagree with the premise that she was wrong.
she's entitled to her opinion, isn't she? just because it does not conform to the dictates of the jewish lobby, doesn't make her opinion wrong. looked at without calling it anti-semitic, her response is not unreasonable.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 07:49 PM
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2. When a Republican makes an assinine statement 20% of the air time is taken discussing their RIGHT
to say it

not the same with Dems-they are condemned immediately
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WileEcoyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 07:56 PM
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4. You want us to be held to a lower standard?
Lower that standard and what do you get?

Answer: Two Republican parties which is practically what we have sometimes...
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jjewell Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:12 PM
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7. I agree. As I've said before...
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 10:14 PM by jjewell
I don't see Helen Thomas' comment as any different than someone saying "The Australians ought to give Australia back to the Aborigines", or "The United States ought to give America back to the Native Americans".

I may agree or disagree with the statement, but since neither Australia, America nor Israel are ever going to be returned to their original occupants anyway, this is a non-controversy in my opinion and no big deal.

I think it's a damn shame that Thomas' long career had to end because she expressed an unpopular opinion.
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:18 PM
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8. Except that there were Jews who lived there before any of people whom you assume to be
"aborignes." One sixth of the population of the region called "Palestine" was Jews. 76% of that region is now called "Jordan" but everyone seems to forget about that.
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jjewell Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:06 PM
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10. Oh c'mon...
Do you actually believe that the people you're referring to are the same people Thomas was referring to? Gimme a break...
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:24 PM
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11. Her comment was profoundly stupid on many levels.
I give her a little bit of a break because she is 89 years old. But oh c'mon yourself. As Bill Press said this morning, not even she could defend what she said.

You can't spin this one.
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jjewell Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:04 AM
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13. I'll accept the little "age break" but...
You "spun" off my question to quote Bill Press. Why not answer the question instead? The answer to the question IS, after all, why I titled the post "Oh c'mon..." ;-)
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:16 AM
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14. She didn't qualify her statement
You're asking me to make sense of something that was profoundly stupid. I'm not a mind reader or a magician, but she hasn't qualified it.

I stick by what I wrote.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 07:49 PM
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3. Pat Buchannon?
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Lil Missy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 08:37 PM
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5. Helen was right. n/t
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yava Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 09:31 PM
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6. No Helen was wrong but...
That some Jews must go home is not wrong.
Its not those who were in Palestine/Israel since centuries. Its not those who came to the UN recognized boundaries of Israel from Poland, Germany, Tunesia etc after the establishment of the state of Israel and have long since had children born there.
Those who must go back home are those settlers in Palestinian land mostly after 1967 and mostly mostly after the fall of the Soviet Union. Those include foreign minister of Israel Mr Lieberman.

So: Russians, go home! Yes.
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Cary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:20 PM
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9. Who gave you the right to declare this?
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 10:22 PM by Cary
What does 1967 have to do with anything?

Sounds to me like you're channeling that old "Khazars Fake Jew" anti-Semitic libel. Please tell me you're not doing that.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:09 AM
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16. to you, she was wrong.
others can make up their own minds as to the rightness or wrongness of what she said.
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ilaughatrightwingers Donating Member (475 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 12:04 AM
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12. Upsetting
Why are our officials more outraged at Helen's comments than the KILLING OF AN AMERICAN CITIZEN by Israel? I just don't get it.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 01:05 AM
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15. Good question!
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:10 AM
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17. exactly... absolutely no kind of outcry over murder.
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sasquuatch55 Donating Member (701 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 11:13 AM
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18. Another convenient minor distraction, blown out of proportion
for a "hey look over there" to take minds away from a more serious problem.
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