White Supremacist preacher kills two cops after traffic stop

[kpete]

Run time: 04:15 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSFwg9V4RcA   Posted on YouTube: May 22, 2010 By YouTube Member: Dprippa Views on YouTube: 923   Posted on DU: May 23, 2010 By DU Member: kpete Views on DU: 1917

 
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[theFrankFactor]

3. Pray tell us about the evils of the SPLC

Seriously. Because it sounds to me like you're divining a lot out of your hatred for Potok and SPLC and nothing much from the report its self. If the SPLC is so evil I want to know.

[Mike K]

10. My "hatred" of Marc Potok?

I think Marc Potok is a phony opportunist in the same category as Al Sharpton and every other race pimp who builds a career out of finding "racists" and "haters" in every possible situation. But my "hatred" of him is a figment in your apparent attempt to depict me.

What I see in the topic incident is a couple of radical extremists, the older of whom is just one of many similar crazies scattered around the U.S. People like Potok find it convenient for their own purposes to assign such designations as "dangerous Nazis" and "hate groups" and "White Supremacists," etc., to these isolated screwballs whenever possible. It justifies and dramatizes their existence.

As for the SPLC being "evil," again, your word not mine. My opinion of that group is encapsulated above. Opportunists, in a word. If you'd like a more detailed analysis of what such organizations as the SPLC are about I recommend to you a book called, The Holocaust Industry, by Professor Norman Finkelstein, whose parents were Holocaust survivors. It's available from Amazon, but if you'd rather not buy it you can Google up lots of interesting excerpts and related comments by Prof. Finkelstein.

For your information, the U.S. is a vastly populated nation. Several hundred million people live here. It is to be expected that a given percentage of them are crazy. Most of these crazies are harmless, some of them are not. And every now and then there is an incident such as this one. And in every example you have characters like Potok crawling out of the woodwork. That's how they live. It's their rice bowl. If the population suddenly became purged of all crazies and their fringe groups, what would Marc Potok, Al Sharpton, and their kind do?

[thucythucy]

5. What is "prominent component of the Holocaust Industry"

supposed to mean?

As for not hearing "a single thing that would justify classifying him a 'White Supremacist' or member of a 'hate' group" there was the small item about the van they were driving "being traced back to a violent white supremacist church in Ohio." Assuming the report is accurate, it would seem to indicate the pair have at least some connection to a "white supremacist" group. Given that's what the police are now saying, it makes perfect sense that the news station would call the SPLC, which has a long and courageous history of documenting and confronting white supremacist groups--including the occasional Holocaust deniers.

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[thucythucy]

7. Some more information about the alleged killers:

"Jerry Kane has previous arrests in Ohio for assault, forgery and vehicle theft. He was pulled over at a checkpoint last month along Highway 380 in Lincoln County, New Mexico and arrested for not having a driver's license.

Lt. Eric Garcia, a spokesperson for the New Mexico State Police, says Kane was asked to provide an i.d. and refused. He was asked to step out of his car and complied, but when asked again for his license, he refused a second time. He was taken into custody without incident. Kane's son, says Lt. Garcia, was not with him during the incident. There was an unidentified woman in the van who was not arrested.

When Kane was shot and killed Thursday, he was actually wanted on a misdemeanor warrant for failure to appear in court on those charges out of New Mexico.

Interestingly, when asked what his profession was, Kane told New Mexico State Police that he was the pastor of the House of God's Prayer, which is the name of the controversial church in Ohio. The former pastor of the church, Harold Ray Redfeairn, became the leader of the Aryan Nation, and went to jail in 1993 for trying to kill a police officer."

This was taken the web page of this same local TV station.

There will no doubt be more information forthcoming as the story unwinds.

[LarryNM]

14. Sacramento Mtns. have had several of these types

Of course for the politicians and such there the danger to beware of is the "illegal aliens".

[smoogatz]

9. The SLPC does great work.

The only people I know of who have a beef with them are white supremacists, segregationists, and anti-government militia loons.

[JoeyT]

16. And various mainstream right wing groups.

They seem to dislike SPLC as much as they did Acorn. For pretty much the same reason. Empowering minorities in any way, even if it's only to point a finger at their oppressors, is *not* tolerated on the right.

[guruoo]

2. Rightwing, anti-government revolutionaries, encouraging others to take up the cause...

using their ''debt elimination'' seminar tour to spread the message..

Video: "You have to kill them all. So what we're after here is not fighting, it's conquering."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x467439

Anti-Government Man Jerry Kane Jr., Teenage Son Reportedly Killed Police In Deadly Shootout
17 hours ago

The father and son were shot and killed during the battle on the streets of West Memphis, Arkansas. PD: Men in Ohio van ambush Ark. officers Two men armed with AK-47s ambushed and killed two officers who had stopped them on an Arkansas interstate,.
http://sec.wbir.com/article/0eMFgPdb631Vu?q=Top+News

Sheriff Warned Suspected Cop Killer Was Dangerous

'Jerry Kane, who had a long history with police, used the Internet to question federal and local governments' authority over him and held debt-elimination seminars around the country. He recently complained about being busted at a "Nazi checkpoint" near Carrizozo, N.M., where court records show he spent three days in jail before posting a $1,500 bond on charges of driving without a license and concealing his identity.

Sheriff Gene Kelly in Clark County, Ohio, said he issued a warning to law enforcement about Kane in July 2004, after Kane said a judge tried to "enslave" him when he was sentenced to six days of community service for driving with an expired license plate and no seat belt. Kane claimed he was a "free man" and asked for $100,000 per day in gold or silver, Kelly said.

"After listening to this man for almost 30 minutes, I feel that he is expecting and prepared for confrontations with any law enforcement officer that may come in contact with him," Kelly wrote in his warning to officers.'

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/05/21/police-dont-know-men-fatally-shot-officers-died-shootout-arkansas/

[Francisco]

6. *Reactionaries

Anti-Government reactionaries, nothing revolutionary about them.

[guruoo]

8. See: 'leaderless resistance'...

Leaderless Counterterrorism Strategy Portal Page

Leaderless Resistance
The History,
Definition, &
Use of the Term
"Leaderless Resistance"

The terms “Leaderless Resistance” or “Phantom Cells” generally refer to spontaneous, autonomous, unconnected cells seeking to carry out acts of violence, sabotage, or terrorism against a government or occupying military force. The concept is often attributed to Louis Beam, but Beam himself credits the concept to Ulius “Pete” Louis Amoss, although Beam cites a 1962 version, when in fact, Amoss first wrote about Leaderless Resistance in 1953.

As Simson Garfinkel explains, the term is sometimes used too loosely “to refer to networked organizations with hub-and-spoke architecture. Such terminology is incorrect. Rather, ‘Leaderless Resistance’ applies specifically to groups that employ cells and that lack bidirectional vertical command links — that is, groups without leaders.”

The theory of Leaderless Resistance as proposed within U.S. right-wing insurgents, many with ties to militant religious ideologies, is frequently discussed among those making policy suggestions for combating domestic terrorism. Therefore an accurate assessment of its roots and application would seem imperative, but misperceptions are common, and some of them trace back to Marc Sageman and Bruce Hoffman.

http://www.publiceye.org/liberty/terrorism/insurgency/leaderless-resistance.html

[guruoo]

4. Kane's web site, password is ' makeme '

http://privateaudio.homestead.com/Jerry-Kane.pwd

Hat tip to: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:aj_bA46T5BkJ:littlegreenfootballs.com/+Jerry+Kane+racist&cd=10&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

[butterfly77]

11. Are these the same guys..

I posted this earlier this week http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/two-more-police-officers-killed-two

[southernyankeebelle]

13. Look at it this way. 2 less creeps to worry about. Damn cop killers. What about the officers

families. They were doing their job. They only did what they wanted the officers to do. Make them damn martyrs.

[davidthegnome]

15. Wow

Just wow. How many more of these will we see before the year is out?