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spiritual_gunfighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 12:38 PM
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TYT: Sy Hersh Breaks Story On Battlefield Executions
Edited on Fri May-14-10 12:40 PM by spiritual_gunfighter
 
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According to Sy Hersh horrifying things are still happening in Afghanistan with prisoner abuses under Obama as well. Cenk asked "why are we in Afghanistan"? And demonstrates there are no good answers.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 12:42 PM
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1. Full video of Hersh
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MarshalltheIrish Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 01:01 PM
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2. Leave it to Seymour to break it
The guy broke the story on the My Lai Massacre after all, and has at least a zillion sources, so when he writes something, you can pretty much go to the bank with it. To add to Cenk's denouncement of the war at the end there, Democracy Now just reported that Afghanistan now costs more than Iraq.
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Prof Lester Donating Member (158 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 07:03 PM
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3. So Cenk was saying.. "If they're NOT Taliban, they get executed..
and there could be any number of reasons.." No! No! No! There's only ONE reason.. EVIL! If they're innocent they get murdered. Evil Nazi evilness. I'm old. I grew up just after WWII.. nurtured on the story of us being good and Nazis being evil. Now.. under the influence of evil capitalism.. we are the Nazis. Oh my God! We are the Nazis!!! My old brain can't handle this shit. I know it's made me nuts. It's anomie.. normlessness. Nothing makes any sense any more. We're not the good cowboys. We're not Roy Rogers. We're the creepy evil bad guys with pencil thin moustaches that send out thugs to rape, torture, and murder the helpless villagers. Oh my God. Every day I pray God will have mercy on us. But.. why should He? JC said do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Is this what we want them to do unto us?? Oh Lord. Every day gets worse and worse and worse and worse. Why should God have any mercy on us at all? Because we're stupid? Or what?

I know it's not you all out there. This place here is my refuge.. a place where others feel the awfulness of this strange evil world. But that just sort of makes it worse. Because when the evil desends upon us, it is us innocent folks that will most be punished. The worst punishment is for those who didn't do anything.. like those poor villagers who just had the shitty rotten luck to the digging the soil when our Nazi brigades came along to burn them alive. Oh the shame. Oh the horror.
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Diclotican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-14-10 10:09 PM
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4. spiritual_gunfighter
spiritual_gunfighter


Someone remember the Malmedy massacre, where german SS troops killed like 90 american soldiers, because they doesn't have/had the resources to keep them as POWs because of the situation at the front? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malmedy_massacre The History have a ugly reason to came back and hunt us for a reason I fear...

I know the Malmedy massacre was not the same as killing civilians in Afghanistan, but It kind of hit me as some of the same, because in the Malmedy massacre, and other massacres by the SS in the West, the american forces was furious to say at least, and after the war, most of the men who was guilty was also been convicted of the action they have had.. Even tho 42 of them got the death penalty, many more got many years behind bars, it was not easy for americans veterans of WW2 to accept that most of them was free before most of the 1950s was over. Mostly because the cold war who was chilly at that time, was given many of the SS soldiers, rank or file a "good clean of health" by the then american american forces, who was more interesting in fighting the soviet fear, than to punish the nazis who had killed their own forces....

If this is true, that american soldiers is murdering afghan civilians, because they are not Talibans, and because they have ID them, then it would end up in a big ugly mess.. Not just for US, but for NATO also, who have been there for many year now, and have given in a lot of resources, who for the most case should have been used home in their own back yard if you accept my french... It is a reason Afghanistan over the last 2500 year have been called the graveyard of empires.. They have flighted most empires, from Alexander the Great, to the Soviets in the 1980s... And even tho Alexander managed to keep Afghanistan in check, it was with a high price, that no one want to copy today.. Whole City's was burn to the ground, the civilians was either sold as slaves, in the rest of the Hellenic world, or slaughtered as sheeps... I doubt that the US have the will, or want to use the tactic that Alexander was using in Afghanistan... For Afghanistan's, the US and NATO forces are just the last of many empires who have tried really hard to get them into line, and they will fight NATO and US forces, as they have Fourth all other empires the last couple of thousands of years. And for the most part won too, even when the price was high.. Even the Mongols, who was tuff as rock them self, was in trouble when they was going into Afghanistan..

If this is true, we are all in deep problems, because if this is true, it would say that american soldiers is murdering civilians, without a trial, without a cort hearing, without the Civilians right to defend them self against slender and lies.. And the soldiers who do this, are doing criminal actions, who should have been addressed by their superiors.. Up to Commander in Chief, Barack H. Obama who have the last say of this... If this is true, then american soldiers are doing war criminal activity, who can end up in trials... Where soldiers can be convicted, and face long prison terms..

Remember, US ARE already convinced of war crimes by the International Criminal Court in Haag.. In 1988 a american soldier was sentences to many year behind bars, because he was action way out of line, and doing war crimes.. He have never been into a prison tho - but is barred for ever set foot in Europe because there the police is still waiting for arresting him for the crimes he was convicted on...

Sy Hersh have not been wrong of other things he had come with, so I would not doubt for a second, that he might also have been right of this too...

Diclotican
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