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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 07:29 PM
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TYT on MSNBC: Cenk Vs. Conservative, Says R's Are Useless & Debates Spanking Students w/ Ratigan
 
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Posted on DU: April 19, 2010
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Summary: Cenk was on the Dylan Ratigan show on MSNBC to debate conservative Matt Lewis on financial reform and the spanking of students in school. You can http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/tyt-msnbc-cenk-uygur-why-republicans-are-u|read about it at Crooks & Liars>.

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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 08:25 PM
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1. Kickiddy!
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:08 PM
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2. Any administrator that wants to spank kids, is more than a little suspect in my eyes.
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ProgressOnTheMove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:21 PM
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3. Very wise comments by Cenk at the end there. The best solutions are peaceful.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 09:54 PM
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4. Big K & R !!!
:kick:
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-18-10 10:01 PM
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5. K&R In Mississippi your have to sign a permission slip to allow spanking.
Some people do and some don't. I never gave permission. :)

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JohnnyK Donating Member (264 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:13 AM
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6. K&R - Cenk is always a font of wisdom n/t
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:39 AM
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7. K&R
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 04:42 AM
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8. K&R! Good interview...
Children who are hit will learn it's okay to hit. I thought we'd figured that out by now... :shrug:
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 05:07 AM
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9. Cenk is starting to spend so much time there they might as well give him his own show
Failing that, anything in the pipeline for TYT TV?
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jennied Donating Member (547 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 01:50 PM
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16. If Cenk ever gets his own TV show
I'll piss myself from excitement. But I fear that they'll make him limit his voice if he got his own show...

He needs his own cable show on like HBO or Showtime, like Bill Maher or something.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 02:01 PM
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17. I agree, TYT on premium cable makes more sense.
That is, if the show were to be on TV. The good news is, we're expanding, and we just hired another full time person. We're also launching new YT channels soon, so stay tuned...
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 05:44 AM
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10. Ratigan is my headache. n/t
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hschulein Donating Member (255 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 06:34 AM
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11. Ratigan
Ratigan is great!!!!!
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vaberella Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 02:15 PM
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18. Keep believing it. n/t
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90-percent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 06:49 AM
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12. Raitgan
Edited on Mon Apr-19-10 06:53 AM by 90-percent
Ratigan is so great I do not understand why his corporate employers allow him to stay on the air. His corporation criticism's are as potent as Max Keiser's are, but Max has to go to Russia to get on TV!

-90% Jimmy
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cufford Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 08:38 AM
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13. Spanking
The fact that it worked for centuries, and until modern-day psychobabble changed the approach, our schools were much better places for our kids, is self-evident.

The vast majority of us grew up getting spanked now and then, and most of us turned out just fine.

Now that it's become such the taboo, well, just look at our young generation these days.

If it ain't broke, don't fix it!
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 12:06 PM
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15. That's a bunch of crap and you know it
In this day and age, no one has to bring children into this world. Absolutely no one! I have a 17 yr old son who I've never laid a hand on. I've never had to. It's not my job to control him. It is my job to raise a well adjusted, responsible, caring human being that is capable of contributing to society in a positive manner. That can not be done via hitting, smacking, spanking, whipping. The problem is all these people having children, then treating them like they are pets. So wrapped up in their own lives, weather it be working, sitting at the bar drinking, or doing drugs, and not taking time to provide an environment in which the children can flourish.

I've told many people over the years "you are the adult, you must set the example you want your children to follow." They see their parents falling down drunk, they think it's acceptable behavior and chances are they become a falling down drunks. They see their parents smoke or do drugs or be promiscuous, chances are they'll become promiscuous or smoke or do drugs. They see their parents resolve disputes through screaming matches, threats or acts of violence, chances are that's how they'll learn to resolve their problems also.

AFIC, people that have to hit their kids in order to raise them, are poor excuses for parents and lash out because they lack the skill of being able to contribute to society in a productive, positive manner.

Why do you hate kids?
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onlyadream Donating Member (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 06:15 PM
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20. Sure, just hit them when they act up
what's that teaching? I don't spank my kids (10&13) and the teachers in their school say they are the BEST behaved students. I always hear how they wish the entire class could be like them. I taught them to respect adults without hurting them. Believe me, my daughter was a challenge, but there are other ways.
BTW - my mother who is almost eighty STILL talks about the ruler hitting her hand when in school. Her hands today are gnarled and ridden with arthritis. To this day the memories haunt her.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 09:30 AM
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14. I think the bill is better then they speculate
“This bill does nothing to change the expectations in the market that some firms are too big to fail,” said Senator David Vitter, a Louisiana Republican who serves on the Banking Committee. “I’m disappointed that Senator Dodd has decided to abandon any sort of bipartisan approach in favor of political posturing on behalf of the Obama administration.”

This hews closely to the advice that GOP pollster Frank Luntz gave to Republicans earlier this year, which was to portray financial reform as inevitably leading to more big bank bailouts, no matter what the legislation actually says. House Republicans also used this tactic incessantly during the regulatory reform debate last year, falsely claiming that Rep. Barney Frank’s (D-MA) bill created a “permanent bailout fund.”

However, Dodd’s actual legislation tells a very different story. For one thing, it bars financial firms from owning more than 10 percent of the assets in the financial system, while creating a Financial Stability Oversight Council (formed by the Treasury Secretary and the heads of the regulators) that will recommend stricter capital and leverage standards for firms as they grow. It also includes the option for regulators to implement bans on proprietary trading (although it doesn’t mandate such bans). These provisions will discourage excessive growth and make it more expensive for companies to expand to an outlandish size.

Under the bill, financial firms would also have to craft a plan for “rapid and orderly resolution in the event of material financial distress or failure.” Basically, firms will have to write living wills, laying out their interconnectedness and liabilities in the event that they fail. It also envisions using the bankruptcy court for all but the biggest firms, with the Treasury, FDIC and Federal Reserve needing to act affirmatively to use resolution authority on a failing firm, instead of simply letting it go into bankruptcy court.

Plus, just like the House version, Dodd’s bill would levy a fee on big financial institutions (those with more than $50 billion in assets, as well as those deemed systemically risky) to build up a fund that will be tapped in the event that resolution needs to occur. The Senate bill also explicitly states that the fund can only be used to liquidate a firm, and “not for the purpose of preserving the covered financial company.” Even CNBC’s Larry Kudlow — who thinks that everything Congress does preserves too-big-to-fail — is impressed by Dodd’s work.

Now, at the end of the day, all of this is meaningless if regulators aren’t willing to pull the trigger and actually use resolution authority when faced with the impending failure of a big firm. But that’s going to be true no matter what the bill says. Dodd’s legislation isn’t perfect, but on this piece, he does seem to have thought through a workable way to ensure that firms have a hard time becoming gigantic, and have no expectation of a taxpayer funded bailout, regardless of their size.

http://wonkroom.thinkprogress.org/2010/03/16/dodd-and-too-big-to-fail/


Larry Kudlow
http://article.nationalreview.com/428091/is-dodd-ending-too-big-to-fail/larry-kudlow?page=1
Surprise, surprise. Sen. Chris Dodd’s financial-regulation proposal raises the possibility of substantial progress on the road to ending “too big to fail” (TBTF) and bailout nation for banks and other financial institutions.
How the Dodd bill will play out in the final details remains to be seen. But when you read the Dodd fact sheet, there are a few key items to like.

First, under the Dodd scheme, large complex companies will have to submit plans for rapid and orderly shutdowns should they go under. These are called “funeral plans.” Then, in terms of these orderly shutdowns, the bill would create an “orderly liquidation mechanism for the FDIC to unwind failing systemically significant financial companies. Shareholders and unsecured creditors will bear losses and management will be removed.” Good.

Then comes the “liquidation procedure.” This spells out that the Treasury, FDIC, and Federal Reserve must all agree to put companies into the orderly liquidation process. “A panel of three bankruptcy judges must convene and agree — within 24 hours — that a company is insolvent,” the bill goes on to say. It also states that the largest financial firms will be assessed $50 billion for an upfront fund that will be used if needed for any liquidation. This is a kind of debtor-in-possession safety net for the bankruptcy-liquidation process. Also good.

Finally, under the heading of bankruptcy, the bill stipulates that most large financial companies are expected to be resolved through the normal bankruptcy process. This is the key. However, it is not an airtight case for bankruptcy. It is possible that a government-resolution process could keep big banks alive or in conservatorship, such as with Fannie and Freddie. That would be wrong. Very wrong. In fact, one of the flaws in the Dodd bill is that there is no mention of Fannie and Freddie.

But the strict language on bankruptcy judges and shutdowns, and the line stating that most large failed financial firms are expected to be resolved through the normal bankruptcy process, is very hopeful.

The biggest flaw in the Dodd bill is that it gives the Consumer Financial Protection Agency (CFPA) far too much free reign. The agency will be housed in the Federal Reserve. But it will be independent inside the Fed, with a director appointed by the president and financed by the Fed’s own profits.
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howard112211 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-19-10 03:02 PM
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19. Not that it is relevant to this, but does that conservative seem homosexual?
I am just curious how good my judgement is in this regard.
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