Rachel Maddow on South Dakota's embarrassing, illiterate, unscientific, idiotic, climate bill

[ProfessorPlum]

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Also, Trent Franks on how great slavery was for blacks, because of abortion. Huh?

Abortion doesn't devastate communities. It is an overall good for communities, because it saves women's lives when they have dangerous pregnancies, it allows women to control their reproductive timing, it raises communities out of poverty when part of the problem is too many children.

[Faygo Kid]

1. Wow. We're doomed.

The ignorance is extraordinary. Rachel is wonderful, but I am beyond being scared anymore by the ignorance out there.

I think I'm just numb at this point.

[givemebackmycountry]

4. Hey Faygo, how ya doin?

:hi:

[Faygo Kid]

5. I'm doin', my friend. How 'bout you?

Still employed. Right now, that's #1.

[liberalhistorian]

34. Try living in South Dakota. There are many things about

this state that I love, but the politics and the backwoods yahoos and the ignorant pride over the strong anti-intellectual streak and the thick-as-butter hypocrisy of ranting against the government and claiming independence and self-reliance while being number eleven among the states for receipt of federal money, not to mention the fact that the state's farmers and ranchers wouldn't survive without subsidies and federal maintenance and operation of the interstate highways, and the operation and maintenance of Mt. Rushmore, tourism being the state's only real industry next to agriculture, can all be really too much at times.

[vaberella]

52. I think you've said it best. These people are also reproducing. Ugh.

[Grassy Knoll]

2. Thanks Plum , Rachel is a god send. n/t

[Ishoutandscream2]

3. Idiots in leadership positions

Absolutely frightening.

[bjobotts]

25. To these idiots a handul of cells in a petri dish is a "baby". To them a fetus is a baby

[bjobotts]

26. There were no "black communities" under slavery...and still plenty of abortions.

[bjobotts]

27. Is there a republican stupid school these goobers are forced to attend?

[bjobotts]

28. How can they call themselves real Americans when they are not even real people?

[bjobotts]

29. Children should be taught that using a library and the internet will keep them from accepting all th

the lies and propaganda they thrown at them in school.

[RKP5637]

45. I'm beginning to think it's genetics and brain development gone amiss...

[drm604]

6. But we all know how much astrology and thermology effect everything.

Who knows what affect those things will have?











(For the humor impaired: yes I know I mixed up "affect" and "effect")

[AlbertCat]

12. astrology and thermology

Scorpio: Your moon is in conjunction with Uranus and it's hot hot hot! So there's no global warming.... and expect a visit from a long lost friend.

[James48]

19. Thermological

Well, close, anyway.



The Board Certified Clinical Thermologist Program (Breast Imaging Certified) has been deemed by IACT through evaluation and experience to be competent in the field of Clinical Thermography including breast image analysis with the exception of dual sensor infrared devices. This designation is considered an extension of the DIACT certification in that it adds the competency of infrared breast imaging to the existing certification.

http://www.iact-org.org/professionals/cert-thermologist-breast.html

[TheMadMonk]

30. Calling the funbag police. IR pron. Takedown now!!!!!1!11elevenIII nt

[drm604]

7. Don't they have clerks who at least spell check their bills?

:shrug:

[demwing]

11. I'm sure they do. Too bad "effect" is a real word and wont hit a spell checker

what they need is an IQ checker.

[drm604]

15. I meant actually spell check,

meaning use their brains and the context rather than a mechanical process.

[demwing]

59. Snark not directed at you - I meant "Too bad for them"

I knew what you meant, but was messing with the Repugs over their ineptitude. On second read, it looked like I was razzing you. I assure you I was not. Sorry!

[Laura902]

8. Never expected anything less from good ol' south dakota......

:rofl:

[The Doctor.]

9. Hey baby, what's your sign?

"I'm a Climatologist"

Ahhh! Teh Stoopid! It burns!

[The Doctor.]

10. 'Thermology'

"Thermology is the medical science that derives diagnostic indications from highly detailed and sensitive infrared images of the human body."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermology

Yes, it's really the body heat of billions of people that is responsible for climate change.

[Ishoutandscream2]

17. Oh, dear God

[suzanner]

13. unbelievable the stuff Repubs will say

The health care non-reform (at the behest of the right wing infringement/'compromise') legalizes the implementable early deaths of people who can't afford or are denied health care, daresay, genocide. However, unwanted undeveloped fetuses are more important to them even though the bible declares personhood at birth only. I'm just grateful for the DU. I'd be interested in the statistics.

[panzerfaust]

14. Well, RayGun regularly turned to an astrologer for advice on how to run the country

... so it stands to reason that S-Dak's Leaders would assume that it should effect the weather as well.

And, they may well be using the word "effect" correctly - for, if you follow their logic - astrology effects (ie causes) - the weather, as opposed to merely affecting it.

Can anyone in S-Dak spell "Scopes Monkey Trial?"

How about "Complete Idiocy?"

Of course, this is done in a state where the State Motto (by State Constitution) is "Under God, the People Rule"

Lordy, Lordy

[sasquuatch55]

42. Reagan the Pagan?

nt

[20score]

16. The whole idea that these dumbasses are trying to legislate reality is beyond belief.

[James48]

18. What did you expect? 45 Republicans, 25 Dems.

South Dakota House membership for 2010.

45 Republicans, 25 Democrats.

What else did you expect?

[AlbertCat]

50. 45 Republicans, 25 Democrats.

I didn't know that many people lived in SD.

[stuart68]

20. you lost me - abortion is an overall good ?

that's a real stretch.

[smoogatz]

32. A real stretch?

How so? How would America be better off if abortion were outlawed?

[valerief]

37. You betcha it is! nt

[stuart68]

55. okeee dokeee !

[ProfessorPlum]

51. the majority of Americans, who are pro-choice, agree with me

But even if they didn't, I'd still thinks the availability of abortion and other reproductive-care services makes for a much better society overall. Think about the consequences of what outlawing legal abortion would be.

[AlbertCat]

53. Think about the consequences of what outlawing legal abortion would be.

Back alley clothes hanger abortions.... like in the '50's!


Abortion has been an unpleasant necessity since the stone age. Best to keep it regulated, safe, and legal. This idea that women are just psyched for their abortion, before lunch... that they are done willy nilly... is laughable.

For less abortions, the key is sex education. If you think both should be illegal, you're not being an adult. This is reality. Not some feel good fairy tale.

[stuart68]

54. unpleasant necessity

and overall good are two different things. it should be the absolute last recourse, which still does not make it good....

i said nothing about illegal.

[ProfessorPlum]

60. this seems like a philosophical argument about what "good' means

But I would call having something which is a necessity because the consequences of not having it are horrible and overall good.

[tilsammans]

21. This, from the very state that gave us Senator George McGovern . . .

. . . :wtf:

[liberalhistorian]

35. Yes, and you wouldn't believe how he's trashed here by so

many now, mostly those too ignorant or redneck to care about their ignorance. It's really disgusting how they denigrate the man and his service.

[tilsammans]

36. Do you find (m)any progressives in SD?

Hope so! We only seem to hear about RW fundie anti-choice teabagger Faux News addict types. :shrug:

[liberalhistorian]

49. There are far more here than you might think.

Many of them are on the state's nine Indian reservations, one of which hubby and I currently live on (the third one we've lived on). The Dems are fairly strong (for SD, that is) in the eastern part of the state, dominated by Sioux Falls, the largest city. But the "west river" part, dominated by Rapid City (the Black Hills/Mt. Rushmore/Crazy Horst Mt. area) also has its fair share, although they generally have to yell a bit louder to get past the majority yahoos. I just love all the yammering and whining against the government, because this state would be NOTHING without federal money and assistance. Everything from farm and ranch subsidies, to natural disaster relief (blizzards, floods, drought), to operation and maintenance of the interstate highways that farmers and ranchers depend heavily on for transportation of their goods. Then we have Mt. Rushmore, the state's biggest draw and anchor of its second-largest industry next to agriculture. The federal government, through the National Park Service, operates and maintains it. There is no possible way the state could ever afford to do that on its own. NO. WAY. So the hypocrisy is REALLY thick in that regard.

Then there's the fact that the Black Hills wouldn't even be any kind of a tourist draw had it not been for FDR and the CCC program he implemented and established. There were several camps just in the Black Hills area alone, and the workers did much of the work of "modernizing" the area for tourism, from clearing forests and building roads, etc. Something that private industry had steadfastly refused to touch, with a few exceptions here and there and, again, the state could never have done it on its own, hell, wasn't even willing to do so. But you just can't tell these yahoos that.

The encouraging thing is that the abortion-banning bill failed both times in the past few years that it's been on the ballot. And it failed by ten percent and nine percent, too, which surprised the yahoos. We are here in this state, we just need more.

[tilsammans]

56. You'll get your wish . . .

. . . for more progressives in SD. Well, at least one more: I'm moving there soon (Sioux Falls)! And I'm encouraging my liberal friends to move there too. What you said about "far more here" is very encouraging. I thought I'd be virtually on my own among throngs of bellowing wingnut crackpots.

As for anti-government whining, it's prevalent here in the so-called blue Northeast too. My most vociferous teabaggin' relatives live in Massachusetts, of all places. They couldn't wait for Ted Kennedy to kick the bucket -- probably partied hearty when he did.

They conveniently "forget" how much they've benefited and continue to benefit from UI, Medicare, Cash for Clunkers, etc. :rant:

[liberalhistorian]

57. Well, then, without giving away where I live,

if you move to Sioux Falls you won't be all that far from hubby and I (at least, not far in "South Dakota terms", lol). I moved to Rapid City from Ohio several years ago, then met hubby who's dragged me to several areas of the state now, for his job. We just moved here several months ago.

Be prepared for the conservatism of the Sioux Falls newspaper, however. That really surprised me. And "progressive" and "liberal" don't quite mean the same things here as they do in some other areas. But there are still more of them here than in many other parts of the state. It's a great city culturally and socially, though, in many ways.

[tilsammans]

61. What about broadcast media in the area?

Are most radio talking heads your standard-issue neocon blowhards? And with respect to Faux News and its wannabes, they seem to be all over -- like dogshit.

I looked on Meetup.com for groups in the area I might want to join, and the only one listed was for fans of Glenn Beck! :puke:

[prairierose]

58. Yes, there are some of us here...

this state used to be blue and had many more dems but when the new dems of the Clinton era gained power in DC, they started ignoring the state parties and this state party suffered. Of course, there were old dems who were bigoted idiots who had gained power over the years and they were still around. That turned off a lot of women and people became much quieter about politics in general.

When Dean was DNC chair, the party here started rebuilding but still has a long way to go. We really need some dynamic leaders who are not afraid to be progressive and vocal about what is happening. The fact that the abortion ban has gone down to defeat twice in the last few years says that most people here are not as regressive as many think. Unfortunately, the idiots who run for office are the old time idiots and those who love the nasty strategies the GOP has adopted over the last 30 years.

Things have changed here for the worse in the last 30 years. Education used to be very important to many people here, now the wider culture has begun to infect more people here. Amazingly, we still have better schools and test scores than many states that pay their teachers much more.

There are many things that need improving here but after living several other places in this country, I would still rather be here. There are fewer people and more wide open spaces.

[Jim Lane]

22. But isn't this the Age of Aquarius?

Aquarius is the Water Bearer. You'd think that a Water Bearer would result in global cooling.

But then, maybe I just don't understand astrological climatology as well as do the mental giants on duty in Pierre.

[AlbertCat]

23. But isn't this the Age of Aquarius?

That was the 60s!

[sasquuatch55]

43. Each astrological age is approximately 2,150 years long, on average.

nt

[depakid]

24. America- one of the few nations on earth where stupidity is a virtue

[FedUp_Queer]

31. Dignitude Restored

[lunasun]

33. you asked

27. Is there a republican stupid school these goobers are forced to attend?
Yes - I think that would be the South Dakota public schools now for one where they will teach this shit and other crap for real!

[msatty99]

38. Astrology....

as an explanation and a part of a piece of legislation?

She must be lying. That could not be true. Also, I don't believe that is a real legislator saying blacks were better off
under slavery. That's so ridiculous It must be a gag or something. Right?

I mean, if things were that bad, we could pretty much just stop talking about 'issues' and stuff.

[rpannier]

39. I knew that global warming was the result of Gemini being in the house of Capricorn

Now it's been proven

Oh yeah... Those thermalogicals are a real problem too

[DFW]

40. Move over Einstein: Republicans have just proved the theory of irrelativity!

Now all they have to do is tell us what that means.

Any time, now, guys.

What's that? http://interrelativity.com/ you say?

Right. And that "effects" our climate how, exactly?

[democracy1st]

41. K & R

[cannondale]

44. It's worse than you think -- read the entire bill

snip

A CONCURRENT RESOLUTION, Calling for balanced teaching of global warming in the public schools of South Dakota.
WHEREAS, the earth has been cooling for the last eight years despite small increases in anthropogenic carbon dioxide; and
WHEREAS, there is no evidence of atmospheric warming in the troposphere where the majority of warming would be taking place; and
WHEREAS, historical climatological data shows without question the earth has gone through trends where the climate was much warmer than in our present age. The Climatic Optimum and Little Climatic Optimum are two examples. During the Little Climatic Optimum, Erik the Red settled Greenland where they farmed and raised dairy cattle. Today, ninety percent of Greenland is covered by massive ice sheets, in many places more than two miles thick; and
WHEREAS, the polar ice cap is subject to shifting warm water currents and the break-up of ice by high wind events. Many oceanographers believe this to be the major cause of melting
polar ice, not atmospheric warming; and
WHEREAS, carbon dioxide is not a pollutant but rather a highly beneficial ingredient for all plant life on earth. Many scientists refer to carbon dioxide as "the gas of life"; and
WHEREAS, more than 31,000 American scientists collectively signed a petition to President Obama stating: "There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, or methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the earth's atmosphere and disruption of the earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide will produce many beneficial effects on the natural plant and animal environments of the earth":

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If I lived in SD I would be looking for a way out of there. Earth has been cooling? 31,000 scientists? This is a huge denial of real science and should never be in a state's bill.

[DeSwiss]

46. So now we see quite clearly......

...that it's not the "A" students who're getting elected to public office.

- Thanks Rachel, we love you!!!!!

K&R

[ensho]

47. and the world watches us. its embarrassing to have nitwits in govts.

and its embarrassing to have so many nitwits to elect them.

[PerpetuallyDazed]

48. That is so backwards.

Abortion gives you more economic freedom. Childcare is like way too expensive, for one thing...