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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-19-10 11:28 PM
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Rachel Maddow demonstrates to Tim Kaine how to rub Repigs' noses in their stimulus hypocrisy
 
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Rachel is most definitely a bad ass.

On the other hand, I don't think she is representing their argument against the stimulus in a completely fair way. These GOP congresspeople are making a "tragedy of the commons" argument that this isn't something which is good if we all do it. But that for each district individually, it is a good thing.

Like the way that we each take antibiotics for an infection, even though so many people taking antibiotics at any given time is a bad thing. Or the way that each one of us knows it isn't good for the US to rely on fossil fuels so much as a whole society, yet each of still continues to drive our internal combustion engine around.

So, a more true way to represent the GOP position is that spending federal dollars to create jobs is bad policy, just because then we can't hand those dollars directly into the pockets of the rich, like they'd like to do. But of course that isn't a popular position, and so they instead claim it won't or hasn't worked. And that is when she nails them, because of course it does work. And they won't make the honest case that they know it works, they just don't want it to.

Ok, I talked myself out of thinking she was misrepresenting their position. It is actually the GOP that is misrepresenting their own position.

Meanwhile, Tim Kaine smiles and makes some noises and I'm thinking: Rachel should be the head of the DNC. I wonder if Kaine is too.

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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 12:00 AM
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1. she oughta demonstrate how howard dean oughta be the DNC chair again lol nt
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HappyCynic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 12:16 AM
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2. K & R
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 02:53 AM
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 03:29 AM
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4. Do you know why?
"Like the way that we each take antibiotics for an infection, even though so many people taking antibiotics at any given time is a bad thing."

I've never heard that...
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:02 AM
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6. It creates a selective pressure for bacteria to evolve resistance
to antibiotics. The more we use antibiotics, the less effective they are, which is why we are seeing strains of bacteria which aren't killed by any antibiotics - such as MRSA, multiply-resistant Staph. Aureus.

It's evolution at work, and we are in an "arms race" with the bacteria.
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 08:50 AM
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7. I knew about that re: individuals...
...are you saying it also has to do with the numbers of people who take them?
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 10:15 AM
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8. Sure. Actually, for any one person, taking antibiotics is a really
good thing to do - usually - if you can kill off some harmful bacterial infection and leave your good bacteria alone.

But taking them as a society - having lots of people challenging lots of bacteria with lots of antibiotics - makes the populations of bacteria in general more resistant to antibiotic drugs.

That's why it is a tragedy of the commons - everyone is following their own self-interest, but it brings about worse results for the group.
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ChicagoSuz219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 06:58 PM
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10. Thanks, ProfessorPlum! n/t
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greiner3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 06:53 AM
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5. The pen noise and action was great show and timing!
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Flagrante Donating Member (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-20-10 12:57 PM
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9. Rachel should head the DNC
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