Corporate Communism Claiming America - Dylan Ratigan, MSNBC

[Bozita]

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Good stuff!

[dkf]

1. All of a sudden I'm seeing more Dylan Ratigan clips posted.

Great!

I only wish they did a podcast.

[Auggie]

2. I was calling it Corporate Fascism...

A nationalist corporatist economic ideology

on edit: made possible by the many corporatists elected to govenerment

[jgraz]

4. "Corporate communism" is a little goofy, but it's got punch.

In reality, what the corporations are doing is nothing like true communism. It's just raw plutocracy.

[JDPriestly]

3. K&R

I suspect that Michael Moore agrees with Ratigan although one might be described as "left" and the other as "right." Both recognize the perversion of capitalism that has taken over our country. We are no longer a nation of farmers, tradesmen and shopkeepers, but rather a nation of indigents dominated by a managerial class that is leaching the resources and energy from the rest of the nation.

[Postman]

5. It's "fascism" but the PR buzzphrase of "corporate communism" plays to the low information voter

meaning most of America. Anywhere else in the world where this phrase would be used, they'd laugh in your face at the absurdity...because to the rest of the world, they recognize it as fascism.

[Auggie]

6. Excellent point

[YOY]

8. Sad isn't it?

As long as it works. I mean if they can redefine "socialism" as anything but Reaganomics then why can't we?

It's still sad beyond belief.

[Bozita]

9. We need to select our own vocabulary like Frank Luntz does for the GOPers

"corporate communism" - two scary words which, when used together, should have a big impact on LIVs (low information voters)

[liberation]

18. That actually is something that Luntz would do:

To pervert a name in order to subconsciously shift the blame.

Call it what it is: Fascism. Let the right tap dance out of that one, rather that us doing the job for them. If we are to use such false dichotomies to name things, we're then playing into their hands.

[Ruby the Liberal]

13. Exactly. Taking money from the public and giving to the few

is the opposite of Communism.

I can appreciate the LIV appeal, but how is this any different from the teabaggers using socialism, communism and fascism interchangeably?

Shouldn't this be an excuse to educate?

*sigh*

[SomeGuyInEagan]

7. Nice alliteration, catchy, words which emote fear/suspicion ...

... all the thing the Republicans mastered decades ago and Dems still don't do.

Very, very nice. Maybe we are turing a corner here.

[Chimichurri]

10. This guy was such a cheerleader for these corporations while he was on CNBC that

it's laughable to see so many clips of him here now.

[ProfessorPlum]

12. Meh, the movement to protect PEOPLE is a big enough tent

to incorporate those who have seen the errors of their ways.

[Chimichurri]

14. I suppose so. Although watching him on that channel everyday, I wonder who

is the real Dylan Ratigan. This is polar opposite to his persona on CNBC. I just find this change of heart insincere and opportunistic.

[kristopher]

15. That's why I suspect the motives behind the phrase

I think he is trying to disassociate the problem of this failure from the root cause - a right wing ideology that hates government regulation. This phrase rhetorically makes the problem some sort of expansion of left wing beliefs and leaves right wing ideology blameless.

I understand the immediate satisfaction of slamming corporatism, but be careful what you root for.

[liberation]

19. You are 100% correct!

This is not a "mea culpa" but a "sua culpa." Yes he is using the word "culpa" but be careful about the reasons for the choice of pronoun by these a**holes. ;-)

[ProfessorPlum]

11. This is exactly the kind of framing that will work in America

with our idiot population. Yeah, people will wonder, why CAN'T those industries compete like everyone else. Brilliant.

[seattle_blue]

16. I'II have to check out this show

I guess one night instead of having about 1000000000 beers before I go to bed, I'll have to got to bed early, so that I might be able to get up to check out his show....

[liberation]

17. It is fascism, not communism.

Communism has its own set of issues, fascism is the proper term to the current interlacing between corporate interests and our government in detriment of the interest of the people at large.

I know it is easier for these corporate toadies to pretend that the "communist" somehow infiltrated their precious capitalism, rather than own to the fact that one of the possible end games of unfettered capitalism is corporatism, also known as fascism. So once again, the people who were trying to shovel "personal responsibility" down our collective throats, they get to pass the buck when it comes to own to their own hubris.