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ccharles000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:56 PM
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Breast cancer kills titties (women? what women?)
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 05:58 PM by ccharles000
 
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Because the only way to get people to care about women dying of breast cancer is to remind them that tits are stake.

http://www.feministing.com/archives/017925.html

this ad is so wrong.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 05:59 PM
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1. That's genuinely offensive.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:42 PM
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7. I think it violates DU rules
youtube has it rated "mature" (and we KNOW that isn't the case at DU)

This video or group may contain content that is inappropriate for some users, as flagged by YouTube's user community.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:50 PM
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9. Well, it's not even the boobs or sexual content that bother me, it's
the message to men that says: breast cancer might hurt the titties you love, especially if that person-thing they're attached to dies of it. I'm sorry, but this just turns my stomach, and I'm not really much of a feminist.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:53 PM
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12. i agree
having survived breast cancer myself and the loss of a sister to breast cancer...color me unamused.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:59 PM
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15. Sorry about your sister--but glad you've survived. I really just don't
think the sexiness/attractiveness angle should get mixed into breast cancer awareness, any more than I think it should be a component of, say, testicular cancer awareness for men. It objectifies and diminishes women, and I would think it would make them feel even worse about themselves, body-image wise, if they have to have mastectomies or other disfiguring treatments.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 03:07 PM
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39. totally agree with you
thanks :hug: it's still painful to think of what happened to my sister. my sister died two months after diagnosis...it was a horrifying experience. she went from being totally fine to dying in two short months. i had never heard of inflammatory breast cancer until she was diagnosed...it is a very scary form of breast cancer.
as a bc survivor, that ad pisses me off.
there is nothing sexy or attractive about breast cancer.
there was nothing sexy or attractive about watching my sister lose the use of her legs and arms and die in two months.
there is nothing sexy or attractive about watching my friend kate die from heart failure because of chemo for breast cancer.
there is nothing sexy or attractive about my friend bj's loss of feeling in her feet...three years after chemo for breast cancer.
you're right: nothing sexy or attractive about breast cancer. i am sure you know this well since you are a nurse.
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TwilightGardener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 03:49 PM
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45. ...
:hug:
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:58 PM
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14. That is exactly the message.
It does no favors for breast cancer survivors who have nevertheless faced that loss.
Quite heartless really.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 10:21 AM
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27. This really is gross
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:52 PM
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11. +1
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:13 PM
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2. Although - what if it brings in more money for breast cancer research?
I mean - I agree its a pretty shallow view of things - but if that is the only way to bring about awareness to some people...



Just sayin'
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:17 PM
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3. yeah, I think it's an effective, playful way to discuss a serious issue
and from a male perspective, it may be superficial, but it's one of the things we live for. :)
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:17 PM
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4. Yes - yes - there is that
Some men (like myself) love boobies
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:51 PM
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10. if the ad can attract more concern about the women attached to the breasts
Edited on Thu Sep-24-09 06:52 PM by noiretextatique
...but i seriously doubt that. i think showing some pictures of women with inflammatory breast cancer, mastectomies, lumpectomies, and reconstructions might be more effective.
i admit i am humorless when it comes to this subject. i lost a sister to inflammatory breast cancer, and i am a survivor of invasive ductal carcinoma, a less deadly cancer than my sister had.
this is the reality of breast cancer: it maims and kills a lot of women. it is a devastating and frightening disease.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 07:01 PM
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16. I just want money for research
Same as I want for any type of HIGHLY PREVALENT CANCER

If it means some ex-fratboy sees that and goes "Oh yeah - I'll donate to that" then so be it

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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 03:13 PM
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42. if that ex-fratboy's mother, sister, girlfriend, wife
daughter, aunt, or friend had breast cancer, i think that would make him more likely to donate.
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Pool Hall Ace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 03:22 PM
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44. I was thinking the same thing, and I'm a woman.
A few days ago when I was walking my dog, I saw a truck with a sticker on the back. It had the pink breast cancer ribbon and the text read "Save the ta-tas." My first thought was that it was very tacky, but then I thought if sales of that sticker help fund breast cancer research or treatment for underprivileged women, maybe it's not so bad.

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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:21 PM
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5. I think it's great!
I've heard about these ads, and I'm all for them. Whatever it takes to make people aware of breast cancer, and the age group it hits, is a good thing, IMHO...

I think it hits home in a very effective way.

I'm a female, and I approve of this message.


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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:45 PM
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8. I agree.
Why ignore the obvious in an attempt to be high-minded?

Women have tits. Men like tits. Other women usually notice a nice rack, too - though they probably don't want to get up close and personal with it (and there was unusual honesty in the ad, regarding this).

I too, am female, and I approve this message.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 07:23 PM
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17. Thanks!
I too have had surgery for a pre-cancer. It's scary stuff.

But a sense of humor goes a long way to get people's attention.

:hi:
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enlightenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 09:29 PM
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23. You're very welcome -
and best wishes for a happy and healthy future. I have a good friend who went through similar and it is a scary thing (it was cancer, but she caught it early and received immediate and appropriate treatment. Why? Because she lives in Wales . . .)
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skipos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:26 PM
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6. I don't have an opinion on it yet
I think it may be helpful for $ and awareness, but I could see someone thinking it dumbs down an important issue. I have watched it 10 times now and I just can't come to a conclusion. I think I will go watch it a few more times.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 06:57 PM
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13. Nice to see the Fake Outrage Machine has made an appearance
This is a commercial airing on MTV in Canada, targeted to the viewers of MTV. The commercial with the dude in his 50's giving tips to talking to your wife about cancer just might not resonate with that audience.

Here is another one from about ten years ago, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ytMx7irm-c
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:48 PM
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20. Ohhhhhhh, my outrage is NOT "fake," thankyouverymuch.
It is REAL...so real I can barely type, in fact.

We don't need to depend on this kind of advertising to help us with breast cancer. Is the only message that "resonates" with people the one that aims directly at the male penis?

This whole ad sends the message "Fight breast cancer so men will have something to ogle."

It doesn't value women as human beings. It only values their breasts. In fact, it suggests that a woman who sacrificed her breasts to live now has nothing to live FOR.

One might even think that it's OK if the woman dies, so long as her breasts can be saved, perhaps under glass, so men can continue to gawk at them.

That's what it's all about, after all. It's not about women and their lives having value. It's about their tits.
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Sen. Walter Sobchak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 09:59 PM
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24. the purpose of the ad is shoving an issue in the face of the young
who otherwise wouldn't pay attention,

If you have to grab them by their dick to do it, so be it - that is advertising. However the ad is as much targeted at young women.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 11:26 AM
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30. And young women just might be as insulted by it as I am
if they feel it sends the message that they ARE their breasts and that without their breasts, they are nothing.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 07:35 PM
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47. they arent thinking, listening hearing anything about breast cancer. they are making crude
and tacky comments about the woman and her breast.

who are you foolin
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StarryNite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:42 PM
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35. You are absolutely right.
This horrific disease can strike any woman at any time in her life. Just think of the thousands and thousands of women who have lost their breasts to this disease. They have already been through hell and are probably terrified that they will lose the battle because cancer has a way of coming back. And to have it shoved down their throat by some appalling ad campaign that now they are worthless outrages me. What if the tables were turned and this was about testicular cancer instead?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 06:06 PM
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46. prostate cancer.... we will get a hunk of a man swinging his dick back and forth as the women ogle
and serious background noise about the lives lost to prostate cancer. a fast death, and for the young.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:11 PM
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18. This has GOT to be a joke.
It is even worse than all the stupid "Save the Ta-Tas" shirts and bumper stickers.

It objectifies women in the worst way. Who cares about the life of the woman? Save her BREASTS!!!!!!! Men need something to ogle, after all!!!! :puke:
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:36 PM
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19. it's not ogling... it's a hard-wired survival trait that goes back
to the Dawn of Man.

It's funny how some people pretend that one of the primary human objectives -- the drive to mate -- doesn't really exist.

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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:50 PM
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22. Who cares whether it's hard-wired? What does that have to do with it?
And who's "pretending" that "the drive to mate doesn't really exist"?

That was completely straw-man.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 05:51 AM
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26. uh, what does that have to do with it? everything.
and, no offense intended, but you were by using the word 'ogle', like there's something wrong with a man admiring the female form.

Women are built to attract men. Of course they're more than objects, but that doesn't change the fact that their bodies are specifically designed to attract the attention of their male counterpart.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 11:25 AM
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29. There's nothing wrong with a man admiring the female form, but
that is NOT what the objective of breast cancer prevention/treatment/cure should be.

It should be about saving the lives of women. You know, human beings. Not just a body part.

And I am sure lesbians will be amused to know that "women are built to attract men" alone.

Oh, damn...I keep forgetting...EVERYTHING having to do with women is ALL ABOUT MEN'S DESIRES. When am I ever gonna learn???? :sarcasm:
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 03:10 PM
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40. do you know anyone who has had breast cancer?
a mastectomy? there is nothing sexy about breast cancer.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 10:37 AM
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28. breasts don't really have anything to do w/ mating
they do have something to do w/ the feeding of offspring.

But a woman w/o her breasts can certain still mate.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:04 PM
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32. of course they can...
but if you look at the areas (in general) that attract the male's attention (at a great distance, mind you) it's either the buttocks or the breasts, both of which are spherical. I think it has something to do with pi (3.14~), ultimately.
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:24 PM
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33. a woman's head is spherical....
where's the commercial about how sexy that is?
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:07 PM
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36. absolutely... same principal
and I notice there are plenty of head shots in the video :)
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MissMillie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:18 PM
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37. but no mention of saving the head
;)
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 01:23 PM
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38. lol
well, it is a commercial trying to raise breast cancer awareness among young males. :+
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 08:48 PM
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21. As a breast cancer survivor - I find this
very wrong.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 03:11 PM
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41. me too...totally pisses me off, in fact eom
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-24-09 11:47 PM
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25. Offensive.
Objectification in the worst way.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 11:42 AM
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31. Speechless.
Not only the terribly offensive focus on "boobs" instead of life, but the cruel stereotyping of gay men and men in general.

This was a shitty idea.
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 12:25 PM
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34. Support healthy Titties! Donate to the fight against breast cancer.
:9
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-25-09 03:20 PM
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43. i wish i could find some pictures of inflammatory breast cancer to share
Edited on Fri Sep-25-09 03:22 PM by noiretextatique
with all of you who love tits so much. it's not pretty. it's the disease that killed my 45yo sister, and molly ivins.
most women don't know they have this deadly form of breast cancer until their breast literally becomes inflamed and swollen, and by then it's often too late because the cancer has metasticized. in my sister's case, it had already spread to her brain, her spine, and her liver. she did radiation for the tumor to her brain...they found that when she started having seizures. after she did one dose of chemo, the oncologist said it would cruel for her continue because the cancer had spread too much. she was terminal...a 45yo woman who had previously been in perfect health. a 45 yo woman with a daughter in high school and another in her second year of college. from diagnosis to death...in just two short months, she lost the use of her legs, then her arms, and by the time she died, she could barely move her head.
i know you are probably trying to be light and amusing, but there really isn't anything funny about breast cancer. lighten up...right :eyes:
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