Sen. McCaskill to Town Hall: "We WILL NOT get a Single-Payer Bill out of Congress..."

[stlsaxman]

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So... is her next step the dismantling of MediCare?

She lost me. She lost a LOT of voters just now.

It's Official: McCaskill Is A For-Profit Health Insurance Industry Whore.

Listen to the reaction- stunned silence.

[stray cat]

1. So who is voting for a single payer bill in congress that proves the votes are there?

after all McCaskill is clearly not speaking the truth - everyone else wants to vote for single payer (and single payer is not the same as a public option)>

[Thrill]

2. Bernie Sanders who is the biggest backer of it

Has said on Thom Hartman several times there isn't enough support for it. Not even 10 votes in the Senate.

He said you would have to do strong Campaign Finance Reform first. In order to get Single Payer

[Enrique]

3. a lot in the House, not so many in the Senate

something like 80 house members, only a handful of senators as far as I know.

[stlsaxman]

6. Pelosi and Waxmann promised Anthony Weiner that HR676 WILL be fully debated,

AND voted on by the full House in September.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0fA2DfwFn4

[swishyfeet]

4. By "single-payer"

I assumes she means THE single-payer, full on Euro-style healthcare?

If so, I long ago gave up thinking that would ever happen, and I'm not ready to call her a whore just yet.

If she means no public option, that's a different story.

[stlsaxman]

8. The Single Payer on the table is simply expansion of MediCare For All.

We're the victims of a big-assed bait and switch with the "public option" which is nothing more than Govt. subsidized for-profit insurance companies.

[yellowdogintexas]

12. just for clarification, if the plan is like Medicare, it is not a profit generator

for the carriers and intermediaries that manage the plan.

Carriers bid on the contracts every 4 years. Lowest bidder gets the contract.

The carriers are not supposed to be making a huge profit on the Medicare and Medicaid contracts.

[stlsaxman]

16. i need to clarify as well, then-

"for profit" is what Public Option has become. Gov't as ins. broker for corporations mandating coverage.

[yellowdogintexas]

20. the various Medicare alternatives marketed by insurance companies

directly to eligible persons are a profit generator for the carrier

your employer based health coverage is a profit generator for the carrier.

Neither of these is as high a profit generator as small group and individual coverage though. Small group and individual plans are also the ones that work so hard to rid the plan pool of truly sick people and avoid paying claims.

Traditional Part A & B Medicare administered by a carrier does not generate the same kind of profit for a carrier ..

they are also the lowest cost per claim in the industry (Medicare)

The carrier has to present to Social Security annually a cost per claim report which is based on the cost of the facilities, salaries, paper, equipment, a projection of increases due to salary increases, and benefits.

[The empressof all]

5. Single payer is probably not going to happen

McCaskill was right and attempting to calm the crowds who are truly ignorant of the difference between Universal Single Payer and A Govt Option. Obama's bill wants a strong govt option which offers choice and allows people to choose between Private Insurance and Public Alternative. Universal Single Payer is ultimately a better plan IMO but would never get passed in our current situation due to Fear of the Evil Commie Socialists who want to eat our brains and take away all our freedoms. America is apparently too scared to go that far in taking care of this issue. I sure wish it were different.

[Mithreal]

7. Self delete

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. I hope Kucinich's idea of doing this state by state

survives, only way it will be done in this country.

We MIGHT want it, but the powers that be are bought and paid for.

[Sherman A1]

10. McCaskil lost me along time ago.

I will not call her names as I don't think that appropriate, but neither will I donate to her campaign as I did in the past. If she is the nominee she may get my vote next time around, but she does not represent my views.

[zoff]

11. This is why Prez Obama is polling low ...

... NOT because people don't want reform, but because people are not seeing it happen. Many have pointed out that the simplest solution would have been to simply expand Medicare or lower the eligibility age. SCD proposed a very acceptable compromise in a progressive lowering of the eligibilty age until it reaches 0. I have no idea if Medicare is truly solvent or not. But that's almost like giving your child a $1 allowance when he really needs $2. Regardless, including the younger and healthier in the national pool will boost solvency and viability of Medicare.

[PSzymeczek]

15. Precisely.

People think he is not doing ENOUGH!!!

[snake in the grass]

13. Well, isn't that special? n/t

[PSzymeczek]

14. Why the freaking hell not?

Single Payer is what we need to have!!!
Dammit! I'm 56, have arthritis, spinal problems, and untreated depression. Hubster is 52, and diabetic. His employer does not offer health insurance. We can't get help, except that Hubster gets free insulin thru the drug company's assistance program. I can't get crap. We need Single Payer!

[Sherman A1]

17. Precisely

and I have emailed her & Bond requesting single payer, not just because we need it, but because it would be better for business as well to take the burden off of employers.

[slipslidingaway]

18. Democrats have been fighting hard against single-payer ...

http://www.thirdway.org/leadership/senate_chairs

Some interesting talking points at the Third Way site, I remember their stance on telecom immunity in the FISA bill.

http://www.thirdway.org/data/product/file/235/Talking_Points_-_Responding_to_Attacks.pdf

"This is a uniquely American solution that gives you the certainty that you will always have choice of quality, affordable health care."



"Third Way" on Public Option: Make One that Can't Work

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/6/8/740037/-Third-Way-on-Public-Option:-Make-One-that-Cant-Work

by mcjoan

"Share this on Twitter - "Third Way" on Public Option: Make One that Can't Work Mon Jun 08, 2009 at 09:40:05 AM PDT
The "progressives" at Third Way, that moderate public policy think thank tank that apparently exists to make the DLC look like regular liberal firebrands, turned their hyper-incrementalist bullshit domestic policy sites on something that matters: the public option in the health care reform package.

This leaked draft of their upcoming policy paper shows that they're not even going for a hyper-incrementalist watering down of the public option--they're trying to kill it..."

[MattSh]

19. Of course you won't...

Not with an attitude like that !