MSNBC Hardball w/ CHRIS MATTHEWS - June 9, 2009: The CIA is arguing against the release of documents that detail videotaped interrogations of detainees at secret prisons around the world. ACLU says the public has a right to know.
MATTHEWS: Should we see dramatic evidence of torture on the world stage - is that good for America; dramatic evidence of people begging for mercy of CIA agents torturing people...
JAMEEL JAFFER, ACLU: Well, that's not what we're asking for, Chris. What we're asking for is information about the implementation of the techniques themselves. In fact, we've carved out what the CIA calls intelligence information, information relating to the questions that the CIA interrogator asks or the answers the detainees provide - that's not what we're asking for here. What we're asking for is information about how these so-called "enhanced interrogation" methods were actually implemented in practice, and the reason we're asking for those documents is that we already know that interrogators exceeded the very broad authority that they were given in those office of legal counsel memos. We already know that they violated those sweeping authorities that they were provided by the OLC. So we want to know what's the full scope of the Bush administration's torture program, and we think the public has a right to see those documents.
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The tapes themselves have been destroyed, and so there are transcripts and there are parts of the transcripts... in which the interrogations, meaning the techniques themselves are reproduced or described.
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