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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 07:44 PM
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CBS News: Coverage of Stewart and Cramer Face-Off
 
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CBS News - March 13, 2009: Caution - It is a Jeff Greenfield report.
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 07:49 PM
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1. Good piece - thanks for posting!
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WorseBeforeBetter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 07:52 PM
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2. "How do we get the hard questions asked before things go wrong"?!?!
Edited on Fri Mar-13-09 07:53 PM by WorseBeforeBetter
It's your phucking job, Greenfield! And you've had decades to at least ask SOMETHING...
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:11 PM
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4. It's called doing your homework and not being in bed with your news sources, Greenfield.
Edited on Fri Mar-13-09 08:15 PM by bulloney
Cripe, have the MSM reporters completely lost touch with what constitutes actual journalism? Have they spent so much time obsessing on silicone breast implants, pretty missing blondes and wardrobe malfunctions that they've forgotten what real news is?

The fact that the networks are spending so much time on the Stewart-Cramer interview is an example of what I'm talking about. That interview really isn't news, but the MSM will spend inordinate amounts of time hashing and rehashing TV programs like this.
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Moonwalk Donating Member (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 01:26 PM
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25. EXACTLY! Exactly! It's called "Jour-al-ism!"
What a stupid, fucking question! People wonder why John Stewart, a comedian with a "faux" news show has become the most trusted name in news--it's because he's a real journalist. He knows how to do what every kid in a high school journalism class learns to do--research, investigate, question, examine. Greenfield should be fired on the spot for asking such a question. But it sure illuminates the problem that Stewart has been pointing out all week long, and for a while before now.

It's a real Looking-Glass world when the serious news shows are entertainment with entertainers who don't know anything about journalism and reporting real news, and the entertainment news is hosted by a real journalist. WTF?
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Beartracks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 04:47 PM
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27. Reporters think they just have to "report"...
... like gossip columnists. "Here's what we heard today; YOU decide if it's true!" :eyes:
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Vanje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 07:54 PM
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3. A commentor on Public Radios' "Market Place".....
.....today , said "CNBC is bad for America".
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 09:38 PM
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8. Good! Now let's hear them say "Fox News is bad for America"
Stewart is knocking them down one by one, but there's still so many propagandists left standing!
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:15 PM
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5. Thanks, Hissy. I thought that was a pretty good job Greenfield did. nt
Edited on Fri Mar-13-09 08:15 PM by babylonsister
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:27 PM
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6. I thought it was awful
If Greenfield thinks it will suffice us to report about the lavish spending of the Hedge Fund criminals and not report what they've actually done to bring this country down, well, he has another thing coming. America saw a huge portion of their life savings vanish in the past few months and they want investigations and prosecution. Greenfield didn't mention naked shortselling and how these Hedge Fund managers sucked the life blood out of corporations and investors. The corporate media AND the SEC are complicit of their crimes.

I hope Stewart keeps exposing them and patsies like Greenfield will have no choice but to report what's REALLY going on. I've been watching the news all day and haven't heard one word spoken about Stewart & Cramer. Is Greenfield the only one or am I missing something?
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 08:31 PM
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7. He was probably allowed 2 minutes, period, especially to report on a
feud between two tv guys.

Yes, he could do a story addressing the problems and why Americans have been dumbed down and ripped off, but you're not going to get much in a couple of minutes.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 01:08 PM
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24. $50 trillion dollars...
just up and disappeared?
911
dec12/00
flight 587
911
2004 election
diebolt
jfk
kal 007
911
(i'd be willing to bet $100 trillion they're all connected ...for example, 600 of the 1500 victims of the SS Titanic were LOCKED IN, were murdered, in effect, iow there was no story, no movie, no books, but then again...?)
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 09:47 PM
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9. Very good report.
It mentioned media's fascination with OJ (or "fluff" news) during financial hard times & the fact that these financial networks are focusing on the moment-to-moment stock fluctuations while they could be delving into what's going on behind corporate doors.

Instead of asking how a CEO of a Ponzi scheme feels about being a billionaire, please tell us why our 401k's have become 201k's.
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sce56 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-13-09 09:52 PM
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10. Greenfeld is part of the problem! Can we get real reporters back?

Apr-29-06
As excited as I am to be here with the president, I am appalled to be surrounded by the liberal media that is destroying America, with the exception of Fox News. Fox News gives you both sides of every story: the president's side, and the vice president's side.

But the rest of you, what are you thinking, reporting on NSA wiretapping or secret prisons in eastern Europe? Those things are secret for a very important reason: they're super-depressing. And if that's your goal, well, misery accomplished.

Over the last five years you people were so good -- over tax cuts, WMD intelligence, the effect of global warming. We Americans didn't want to know, and you had the courtesy not to try to find out. Those were good times, as far as we knew.

But, listen, let's review the rules. Here's how it works: the president makes decisions. He's the Decider. The press secretary announces those decisions, and you people of the press type those decisions down. Make, announce, type. Just put 'em through a spell check and go home. Get to know your family again. Make love to your wife. Write that novel you got kicking around in your head. You know, the one about the intrepid Washington reporter with the courage to stand up to the administration. You know - fiction!

Because really, what incentive do these people have to answer your questions, after all? I mean, nothing satisfies you. Everybody asks for personnel changes. So the White House has personnel changes. Then you write, "Oh, they're just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic." First of all, that is a terrible metaphor. This administration is not sinking. This administration is soaring. If anything, they are rearranging the deck chairs on the Hindenburg!


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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 12:02 PM
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19. all the real reporters have been fired or bullied into submission
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pansypoo53219 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 12:52 AM
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11. bubbles happen.
but the teevee gnews made it a super bubble. what was that gum called?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 03:43 AM
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12. Is Couric getting her sails?
I never thought that Couric would have the courage to set out to sea, to take chances and rely on her own sense of the wind and the sun. But, hey. Miracles do happen. Since her experience with Palin, she seems to have gained a bit of confidence in her own judgment. Good for her. I hope she becomes more and more independent and more and more willing to follow her compass to the truth. She has a long way to go yet, but it is great to see her setting out on this new course.
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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 08:36 AM
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16. I don't think it's Couric at all. She has a boss who has a boss who has a boss.
Edited on Sat Mar-14-09 08:39 AM by peacetalksforall
The talking points have been coming from the Republican Party only for nearly two decades.
What is supposed to be news - the selection, the bimbos who deliver it all come from Murdoch, Time-Warner, GE, Viacom, Disney plus their groups and the owners of nearly all the traditional newspapers and magazines. They have consortium type partnerships. They get it from those who direct the agenda.

For the last eight years it seemed to be coming from the WH, now the precise chain is not quite obvious - but it is at the highest levels of corporations, lobbyists, reverends, Carlyles, foundations.

The Republican contingent in Congress take orders from them, tv is integral to their operation.

The 'faces; do their job as directed. Some with total passion.

Olberman and Maddox are designed to draw the audience who flat out turned down watching the Blitzers and Greenfields, even the Lehrers.

Someone like Couric is not her own woman.
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kmac3 Donating Member (251 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 10:09 AM
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18. Re Peacetalksforall . . .
Couldn't agree with you more ... I'll go one step further and declare it was the abuse of the anti-trust act which allowed buy outs, one-by-one, allowing the powerful monopoly of MSM we now see. MSM no longer represents journalism but is a purchased product to advance the Republican/Corporate agenda.
We, as Americans, need to act to correct this NOW!
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-15-09 09:10 PM
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33. I suppose you are right to a certain extent, but I do think that
the personalities of the spokespeople determine the content of the programming to a great extent. Maddow and Olbermann take orders to a certain extent (such as failing to mention the Stewart/Cramer set-to), but Maddow and Olbermann hold the beliefs, firmly hold the beliefs, they espouse.
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BlackX-068 Donating Member (65 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 04:52 AM
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13. A comedy network...
Better than the evening news to just telling it like it is.
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DrZeeLit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 07:37 AM
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14. I can't believe that, after NOT ASKING QUESTIONS -- about WMD and Iraq and the War, they can still
wonder.... about who should be asking questions.

SHEESH!

I, too, turned off the television in May 2001.
And I have not regretted it one darn bit.

People ask me, "how can you live without t.v.?"
I look at them like I'd look at any addict. And I think, "how can you live with it, or rather FOR IT, day in and day out?"

Get a life, people.
Libraries, museums, parks, mountains, rivers...and even... dareIsayit.... alone time for contemplation or creative endeavors.

Brainwashing doesn't have to be the norm.
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global_traveler Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 04:18 PM
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26. Notice of Govt Recall of "They Live" Sunglasses/Contact Lenses
Edited on Sat Mar-14-09 05:02 PM by global_traveler
After watching "They Live" again, I have concluded that they actually do.....You may want to take a look at that film and then put on the sunglasses/contact lenses. Oh, and about that Govt recall of the "They Live" brand of sunglasses and contact lenses: DO NOT OBEY!!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUboo707l4E&feature=PlayList&p=F4BEA12C6414C2E7&index=11
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cn0Y9pu9jmE&feature=PlayList&p=F4BEA12C6414C2E7&index=12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BA8drfZwnXQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lwlx3GnLGs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L86AAGZ9BBg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsZpdUUdd3I
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 08:13 AM
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15. Four and a half million jobs lost?
Is that all? I thought it was a whole lot more than that.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 05:23 PM
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29. What, haven't you seen the news about the labor market cover ad nauseum?
Strangely enough, neither have I.
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SlingBlade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 09:53 AM
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17. Good, Keep it up
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Archie_Leach Donating Member (32 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 12:23 PM
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20. Guess everybody's forgotten
Edited on Sat Mar-14-09 12:24 PM by Archie_Leach

that it was Rick Santelli's rant that brought about Stewart's rant about CNBC that mainly slapped Cramer.

Seems to me that Cramer should be sending a black rose to Santelli!


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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 12:26 PM
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21. K & R n/t
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Wizard777 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 12:32 PM
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22. Too funny! "Cocaine & Hookers" is a band that played some GOP Convention Parties.
So yes there is a market for them. Especially for the GOP. :rofl:
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 12:55 PM
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23. The MSM acknowledges the real world when cornered to do so
and does a 'piece' on, for example, Abu Graib, or Guantanamo, and now a commentary on Jon Stewart. Then, it's back to business as usual, unless pressure is kept on them. In depth self analysis of the corruption and degradation of mainstream journalism will have to be forced upon it from outside sources.
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Bucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 05:22 PM
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28. I love the phrase "With OJ-like focus" -- unintentional self-parody at its best
God forbid we should exam the destruction of millions of jobs and exploitation of our country's wealth with the same blow-by-blow scrutiny given to a celebrity murder trial!
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theFrankFactor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 05:29 PM
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30. Hmmm, Anyone remember the run up to the war?
Stellar reporting then too...NOT! Fucking useless, MSM.
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 07:24 PM
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31. We need to have more voices criticizing the business world. That is what I get out of the media's
Lack of Critical Reporting. Thanks for the post.
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fortyfeetunder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-14-09 07:44 PM
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32. Calling on Michael Moore
I think we have a sequel to "Stupid White Men"!!!!
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