Karl Rove owned by Katrina Vanden Heuvel on This Week's "Round Table"

[Turborama]

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How come this asshole hasn't been held in contempt and sent to jail, already?

[Cirque du So-What]

1. FWIW

I hold Turd in UTTER contempt!

He doesn't merit the other half of the moniker Chimpolini hung on him; the blossom has long since departed this turd.

[HowHasItComeToThis]

87. REPUBLICANS WANT AMERICA TO FAIL

ADMIT IT

[axollot]

2. K + R - That asshole really should be held in contempt! n/t

[bjobotts]

92. George Will is an idot.Rove failed to mentiion deregulation which created this crisis

[bjobotts]

93. Akso they were left a budget surplus by the Clinton administration

[bjobotts]

94. Rove acts like inbvading Iraq was defensive like Katrina it was a response to a disaster

[bjobotts]

95. Wrong.Bush CHOSE to start a war, and to pay his no bid contract buddies-ran up the cost to taxpayers

[bjobotts]

96. Billlions raked off by Haliburton and KBR.Then stock derivitatives lost trillions

[bjobotts]

97. Rove is avoiding the FACT that combined they robbed the treasury and have been since Reagan

[bjobotts]

98. Remember the $12 billion sshrink wrapped $100s on paletts deliverd to a war zone and lost

[bjobotts]

99. Rove should be in prison, not on TV. If his lips are moving he's lying

[bjobotts]

100. I cannot stand to watch George Will.He is the true 'elitist' beltway jerk.

[Le Taz Hot]

114. Clinton signed the Deregulation Bill

(Glass-Stiegall) and many Democrats in Congress, including my own DiFi, signed onto it. It's time we stop ignoring gross wrongdoing by those on "our side" and start holding THEM accountable.

[elocs]

3. Katrina hung Rushbo around the Repubs' necks as well. Let's keep that up! n/t

[fascisthunter]

4. Karl Rove you Dishonest Cowardly Warped Fascist - enemy of the working class

how does it feel to lose, you loser?

[KaryninMiami]

5. I wish there was a camera in the green room- would love to watch the dynamic

between them off camera- the fact that Rove and Katrina are sitting at the same table is amazing enough- talk about composure. She's probably dying to say what she really feels in her own words...

[empire we are]

6. Fuck ABC

For even giving this criminal and traitor a national platform.
If any of us blew off subpoenas as he does we'd be in jail.
Instead he gets a platform on national media and spews lies.
Fuck ABC

[marew]

20. I agree!

Why they even give that scumbag a platform to spew more lies is incomprehensible to me! We already know his character, or should I say lack of it.

[ooglymoogly]

27. agreed nt

[Joe Chi Minh]

37. Loved the way when the arguments got really heated between

everyone, the camera homed in on The Great Rove as presumably the others were prompted to defer to him -s o that he could deliver his putative argument.

[jcbrusl]

105. Unviewable

I m AGREE..

Free Government Money

[wackywaggin]

49. Giving Rove the Bully pulpit

I immediately turned the channel when I saw Rove on the TV this morning just like when I hear Limbaugh spouting his lies on someones radio. By watching him and giving the station and him relevance you are supporting the proliferation of his filth... Just say no!!! and Limbaugh, Rove and the rest of them will become irrelevant and wallow in their own hatred of themselves.:think:

[progressoid]

113. Exactly. FUCK ABC.

There is absolutely no reason to give this criminal air time.

[nuxvomica]

7. Yep, he was owned

When Rove mangles his words and talks over other people, it's a sign he knows he's lost. I wish they didn't have him one any way. He makes so many false statements that nobody has time to rebut them all. I loved it when Vanden Heuvel said she had been to Cantor's website. I knew when he admonished her for not going there that he was in trouble. :rofl:

[truth2power]

8. Bwahahaha!! Did you catch that? He said, "Call me Karl",

and she just walked right over it. :rofl:

Two other points: 1) KKKarl is rude and no-class. He talks over people and tries to run out the clock. 2) What is that putz doing on OUR airwaves anyway? Worthless criminal! He should STFU.

[Joe Chi Minh]

38. She was obviously too polite to say, "Thank you, but no thank you",

as I had half-expected her to.

I liked her point, too, about the suffering public not being exactly enamoured of the choice by those right-wing geeks of sporting metaphors, to describe the national/global economic crisis. We didn't hear any more about the Red Socks after that.

[lsewpershad]

39. Love it

KKKarl the KKKriminal was KKKilled

[XanaDUer]

53. Yes, very condescending to her

She handled that, "Call me KKKarl" krap well by igoring it.

[The Wizard]

63. Call me Karl

was his attempt to disarm her and it didn't work. The only thing missing is Ku Klux Karl's orange jump suit.
All they have left is armed insurrection.

[Epiphany4z]

62. that was great

and when he started tripping over his words.....he is not used to dealing with anyone who really disagrees with him.....he has been in his Bush White house or fox noise bubble for so long he actually looks a bit shocked that folks dare to disagree with him rite to his face

[bertman]

9. Rove is once again rewriting history to suit his agenda. And George Will declaring that

the Republicans had eight years and Obama will have the next four years to show whose approach works. Excuse me, George, but we ALREADY know that the Repbublican approach DOES NOT WORK.

I am amazed that Katrina was as restrained in her responses to Rove as she was.

She is one smart woman and an excellent debater. Loved it when Rove said she probably had not even looked at Cantor's website and she said "Yes, I have." We need more advocates like her.

P.S. Who was the other man who was advocating for Obama?

[daninthemoon]

28. Yes, but did you see the intensity in her eyes? She had an opportunity

to hit him, and she made the absolute most of it. She was clear, concise, and unmerciful. It was inspiring.

[bertman]

33. Indeed she was. A fierce advocate for Progressive politics. I think I'll renew my scrip

to the Nation right now.

[liam_laddie]

42. Katrina tossed poison knives...

if you had the newest virtual media decoders on, you could see the barrage of sharp blades
burying themselves in Turdblossom's face. It was wondrous to behold. I marvel that Katrina
was able to stay professional and focused. I'da been over the table at that asshole, interrupting
as if he's the only voice that matters. He's gonna be someone's prison bitch or else!
:thumbsup: Katrina!

[stanwyck]

115. She does a wonderful balancing act

managing to harness her well placed indignation with a forceful offense. She doesn't get shrill or personal. She's no Ann Coulter, dodging the specifics of arguments with flame-throwing.
She is always tough, insightful, and ready.

[Lochloosa]

31. Stan Greenberg

Stanley Bernard Greenberg (born May 10, 1945) is a leading Democratic pollster and political strategist who has advised the campaigns of the Bill Clinton, Al Gore, and John Kerry, as well as hundreds of other candidates and organizations in the United States and around the world, including British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

A political scientist who received his Bachelor's Degree from Miami University and his Ph.D. from Harvard, Greenberg spent a decade teaching at Yale University before becoming a political consultant. His 1985 study of Reagan Democrats in Macomb County, Michigan became a classic of progressive political strategy, and the basis for his continuing argument that Democrats must actively work to present themselves as populists advocating the expansion of opportunity for the middle class. As the pollster for Clinton in 1992, Greenberg was a major figure in the famed campaign "war room" (and hence the documentary film of the same name).

He is the founder and CEO of Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research, a polling and consulting firm, and co-founder, with James Carville and Bob Shrum, of Democracy Corps, a non-profit organization which produces left-leaning political strategy. He is married to current Rep. Rosa DeLauro, representative from the Third District from Connecticut.

Greenberg's corporate clients include British Petroleum, British Airways, Monsanto and General Motors. <1>

[bertman]

32. Thank you, Lochloosa. I see that Stan is another rabid left-winger.

:banghead:

Although he did TRY to address some of Rove's propaganda points. He looked very nervous and looked like he was mouthing what Rove was saying. Strange.

Thank Dog for Katrina.

[Fla Dem]

48. I thought he was excellent. For once they had 2 strong lefties on. n/t

[rucognizant]

78. NOT

If his clients are Monsanto & BP.............his boo. I am disappointed in Rose De Lauro.

[BlueMTexpat]

104. I thought that he did well, too ...

and Katrina was a star. But Steph is pitiful and why any legitimate news source, assuming ABC is one, gives Rove a forum at all is beyond me.
He should be in jail, is beneath contempt, and I fully agree with the No 1 poster up above.

[windoe]

10. K & R GOP has no plan, no shame

in allowing a man ignoring congressional subpoenas and a RW hate radio personality to represent them!!

I think the only thing driving this train is leftover stolen money and the people left holding the bags. Time to round them up and clean house.

[Cirque du So-What]

11. She laid the smack down on George Will too

Always enjoyable to see him get put in his place.

[MindMatter]

43. We keep refusing to make the most important point

This bullcrap about Obama creating the deficit has to be challenged. What Obama did is produce the first HONEST budget in 30 years -- shining the light of day on trillions of dollars of formerly off-budget programs.

He isn't increasing the deficit. He is just being HONEST about what has been going on.

The first step toward recovery is to admit you have a problem, and that's where we are. Step 1 of a 12-step program.

[The Backlash Cometh]

12. Why is he allowed any air time?

This is just insane!

On edit: Can someone post the number count where Katrina speaks, because I just can't listen to Rove through the entire thing.

[northernlights]

30. it's totally worth listening to KKKarl

cause you know the minute he starts blustering and interrupting and talking over, and venting, and spewing venom....that he's about to get blown away by Katrina.

And it's not just what she says. It's the gorgeous way she says it. :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl: The small smile. The sidelong glance. The clear, concise answer. The dismissive look away as she goes on to elucidate some real points...

[burning rain]

61. He's such a loser and obviously cynical bullshitter...

that he's good for our side -- because he makes Republicans look so damn bad. Don't get me wrong, I agree that he should be arrested.

[asjr]

13. I would bet Karl is still on the

Bush payroll. If anyone knows where the bodies are buried it is Karl Rove.

[baldguy]

14. Geo Will says "Everyone wants this to work."

BULLSHIT!!! The GOP is on record saying they want Obama - and America - TOO FAIL!

[Enthusiast]

51. Not only that

but if the economy does recover in a huge way. You know, unemployment falls to 3% or something and oil remains at below $45 a barrel, The Reich Wing will still characterize it as a failure. Why? Because everything in their world is measured by how much they pay in taxes.

[quiet.american]

15. Katrina = She-warrior! This is how it's done. She is EXCELLENT. nt

[rucognizant]

80. I am so impressed!

3 or 4 years ago she was not aggressive enough as a TV pundit. Her voice was a little too soft spoken, and she had difficulty wedging her voice in. I read The Nation religeously every week and knew how smart and well informed she is.
But them n4 years of pure anger are good for making one raise one's voice. The Dems have come far with "framing " too.

[Overseas]

16. K&R !

I agree completely with those who are angry seeing Rove given any TV time at all. He is a bully and a practiced liar.

Katrina did a great job and I hope others forced to share precious air time with the mega-failure Rove, who holds our congress in contempt, will speak out against his arrogant disinformation spewings.

[Ticonderoga]

17. Why O Why

didn't Katrina just get up and knock that fat treasonous asshole right off his barstool.

[scytherius]

18. It's nice to see that humanity is finally fighting back against conservatism

But we have to step it up, fight harder and never waiver until Conservatism is wiped off the face of the planet.

[dixiegrrrrl]

19. I just sent e-mail to ABC

Pointing out what good PR they provided for anti-Republican viewpoint,
and asking them why someone who is in comtempt of congress is allowed air time.

[marew]

24. I just did also. Hope everyone does.

[NJCher]

120. this can work

I did it with Jerome Corsi appearing on Coast to Coast. I recruited others to write letters, too. I know they received quite a few of them because George Noory commented on it. He said Corsi would continue to appear but he hasn't been on lately.

Of course, they'll let the outrage over the fact that the scumbag wrote a lie book about Obama during the campaign die, but at least the jerk got his hand slapped.


Cher

[opihimoimoi]

21. Rove is a DISCUSSION/CONVERSATION TIME HOG....TYP BULLY

wants to over talk everyone....

He is a POS

[opihimoimoi]

22. ROVE is TOAST...his BS bullets were BBs...Katrina ate him like chop suey

[underpants]

64. Didn't he actually prove that they are holding up their pledge to cut taxes for "95%"??

or did I miss something?

the Republicans had a counter plan? Really? I didn't hear a one of them mention it

[opihimoimoi]

70. Hi There Undie....re Rove...he is part of the Prob,,,,not the solution

His creds are toast...cannot believe anything these Pubs say or do....its all SELFISHNESS on their part.

The GOP is a done deal....Toast...because of guys like Rove, Hannity, Oreally, etc...The GOP has lost its allure....

They are DOOMED....cannot recover...not as long as President Obama uses Reason, Truth, and Sanity of which he has a Lock on....

[underpants]

73. He had no answer. Of course he didn't he only attacks

see post # 72

[gratefultobelib]

23. I hate watching these things. Once again repub mouthpiece got the majority of the air

time by talking, talking, talking over everyone. I don't see how Katrina "owned" Rove when she barely got 6 words in.

[rtassi]

75. I agree! Owned is when you are shut completely down. I like her..

and her intensity, but nobody has been able to put a real glove on Rove yet. Knock him out, then you own him!

[LynneSin]

25. I love how republicans have 'selective memories'

oh it wasn't us

BULLSHIT

[daninthemoon]

26. My first reaction when I learned that he was goinf to be on the ABC

panel was disgust, and I still am sending an e-mail to ABC to protest. However, Katrina did indeded hand him his head, which was terrific. Maybe there is something to say for bringing these slugs into the light of the camera, as long as people like her are allowed to shoot them down like the lying vermin they are. A criminal court would be best, but I found something therapeutive about seeing the dressing down he received. They have been shielded for too long. I also appreciated that she refused to address him directly by his first name, as in this case it would have been a sign of respect or understanding.

[Ikonoklast]

29. Karl is using all the formal education that he has.

He is nothing but a dirty trickster, with nothing to back it up.

If he can't belittle and talk louder than his opponents, he got nuthin'.

[Hissyspit]

34. More foreign-owned debt under the Bush administration than all other presidencies combined.

[DFW]

35. She made Rove show his hand, and he had nothing

Of course Rove tried the usual Republican talk show tactic--talk louder and longer
than anyone who might disagree. But Katrina knows all the moves. She graduated
summa cum laude from Princeton, and Rove has a doctorate in snake oil salesmanship.

I'd say the degree of education of both of them showed.

I had the pleasure of having a long lunch with Katrina in January while visiting
New York. She's every bit as sharp and every bit as knowledgeable as she is on TV.
I was blown away to say the least, and not many people do that to me. She is also a
very nice person, as long as you don't act like an asshole (that's you, Mr. Rove).

[Riverman]

36. Try and Jail Rove with Bush, Cheney et al, Boycott ABC!

[rasputin1952]

40. I saw this live this AM...a heads-up from The Nation...

in fact Katrina even asked for input on how to deal w/Rove.

She was excellent. She cut him off, took down the RW spin from the Rovian machine, she handled herself brilliantly, and the "Mr. Rove" remark was absolutely brilliant. She went into his territory, ripped him to shreds and did it with her usual brilliance and tact.

What was needed was more time...Rove was on the ropes, and she could have finished him off w/another 2-3 minutes.

FWIW: my suggestion was that he would try to "change" the subject, which he did, she held her ground, which was my suggestion, and she beat him senseless.

The GOP..."no ideas....no shame"...I love this woman...:loveya:

[Number23]

50. She was fantastic! She obviously got some good advice

The other guy wasn't too bad either. Will must have realized he was powerless to stop Rove from sliming the Repub party even further and wisely kept his mouth mostly closed...

[rasputin1952]

56. There were a LOT of replies to her request, some of them quite

lengthy.

Mine was quick and to the point...basically, don't let him "talk" over you and change the subject. She was brilliant, and Rove didn't even pick up the rueful scorn she showed to him. To me, it was obvious she detests the man, and her eyes spoke volumes.

Katrina is a force to be reckoned with. When she spoke after Michelle Bachman a while back, it was the only time I ever saw her "lose" it, I think she actually vomited.

In any case...Rove was bested, it was there for all to see, and now he can crawl back into the swamp and seek a soul.

[pleah]

41. Why isn't "the turd" in jail?

And, yes Katrina was great. K&R

[MrsBrady]

44. ABC shows its true colors by allowing Rove, a known criminal, to be on the air.

:rant:

Cheers to Katrina Vanden Heuvel.


that is all.

[Lisa0825]

45. "No new ideas, no solutions, no clue, and no shame."

:rofl: :applause:

[mzmolly]

69. I second that emotion.

:rofl: :applause:

[Onceuponalife]

46. "Rush Limbaugh defacto head of the Republican Party"

:rofl:

The Repugs seem to be trying to decide on who leads their party. It's between Rush Windbag, Bobby "Kenneth The Page" Jindal, Sarah McFalin and Joe the Dumber. They can look forward to permanent minority status if that is their future.

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[BlooInBloo]

47. (shakes head) Well, he can't say I didn't try to warn him....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=8236456&mesg_id=8236565

[AngryOldDem]

52. That was fucking PRICELESS.

The look on his face said it all. He had no answers and he knew it. The whole exchange between him, Vanden Heuvel and the man sitting opposite (sorry, didn't catch his name) was the biggest indictment yet of the entire Bush regime.

I especially liked the way the camera trained on his face as Vanden Heuvel continued to kick his sorry fat ass.

[lebkuchen]

54. Sad commentary that in the US Rove is allowed to open his mouth on TV

and not be behind bars. Fucking traitor.

[femrap]

55. Put the greedy pig in jail!

Why do they have him on TV? I'm writing the head of news at ABC and telling them I won't watch their news any longer....they pay CRIMINALS to appear on their network.

Fuck Disney.

[Gene Normal]

57. the GOP

keeping cigarettes affordable, that's the Republican plan for the working class

[Mithreal]

58. Vanden Heuvel is just too much the match for Rove.

I am so happy that she is one of our champions.

[underpants]

72. She had a great point about how the Americn public have not been able to hear OUR side of it

for 30 years

ain't it a bitch when one of our guys gets the biggest megaphone? :bounce:

Rove Will Steph and all the regular type pundits don't seem to realize what has hit them-an actual Democrat (prog/lib/etc.) implementing actual "leftist" policies.

It will work. These things have all been ignored for a long time (Clinton included). "The market" doesn't build roads or develop drugs or do the initial not-profit portion of things they just let the public pay for it then hand it off to them.

[bulloney]

81. The market will only work in places where money is to be made.

That's why rural America was behind the rest of the country in getting electricity, telephone and other utilities. There wasn't enough population density to make it worth the private sector's money to bring these services to rural America. It took FDR's public works programs to bring that to the country. The markets weren't going to do it any time soon. And guess what? The country is better for it.

[opihimoimoi]

86. How quickly the Pubs forget what GOOD the Dem Party has done for us

[underpants]

123. The Dems were the ones in charge back in "the good old days"

the Repubs have pulled off a great scheme making people think that they should finally put them in power (Reagan revolution) so we could return to the "good old days"....when they weren't in charge :crazy: it worked.

[opihimoimoi]

128. The GOP Excells in Distorting the Truth in Their Flavor.....They use YELLOW/Slanted Journalism

Despicable assholes...counterproductive and Obstinate....BULLIES

[underpants]

124. That was my point

I didn't make it very well

Stem cells
drug development
interstate highway system
rural electrification

none of these are profit making but once they are in place "the market" / "industry" can make money off it...taxable money--unless they change the laws and make it NOT taxable anymore.

Money for nothing and chicks for free.

BTW_ "Government" also provides for a fairly well fed and trained/trainable workforce

[antigop]

59. That was great! Thanks for posting. n/t

[Epiphany4z]

60. is it just me

or is "with all due respect" repub code for ....fuck you you just know he wants to yell that at her

[chollybocker]

65. Everytime ABC doesn't call the police when Rove is in their own studios,

they're abetting a criminal. He should be escorted out in handcuffs and not led underground to the ABC limo.

[loudsue]

66. I REFUSE to listen to people talking over one another like a bunch of cackling chickens.

I turn that shit off if it's on YouTube or if it's on the tv or radio. I cannot BELIEVE that this is what passes for "news" in an educated country.

[republicansarewhores]

67. P.O.S.

Why isn't this motherfucker rotting in jail somewhere and bending over as someone's bitch yet?

RAW

[Janice325]

68. Holy cow!

:wow:

I have never seen such quiet calm and dissection of points before. I think I love Katrina Vanden Heuvel. I didn't think Karl Rove would ever stammer before the camera, but I guess I was wrong.

A big k&r!

[ihavenobias]

71. K & R

Awesome.

[burning rain]

74. *sigh* I wish Katrina owned me..!

I'd gladly be a slave to her love. Smart, beautiful, elegant, and sophisticated!

[RBInMaine]

76. Rove is a F-ING fascist criminal, and she just showed how to SLAM a right winger hard !

[Maestro]

77. I Heart Katrina Vanden Heuvel.

Karl was pissed. He knew his ass was handed to him and did anyone notice how he blamed the recession on Clinton? Does that ever get old? :shrug:

[cooolandrew]

79. Their argument is to stay in the swamp, investining in the future gets out the swamp and helps >

people to learn to fly.

[Gamey]

82. George Will says it's a GAME!

Selfish repubs are in it to win for themselves and theirselves only. America be damned to fail. Rush said it.

[creeksneakers2]

83. Rove started out with a big flat out lie

He said Bush only added $2.9 trillion to the debt. Actually, Bush added $4.9 trillion to the debt.

http://www.treasurydirect.gov/NP/NPGateway

[Gamey]

85. Bush doubled the debt of the previous 41

It took number 42 to create the same debt of the 41 before him, COMBINED!

[Th1onein]

84. Yeah, bounce your big ol' Lima Bean Head, Karl!

I can NOT stand that lying sack of shit. Why is he even given airtime? He and his party of shame know nothing and say nothing but LIES.

[Liberal_Christian]

88. Why wasn't he saying anything like this during GW's Bail out??????????

Maybe he thinks it's more important for money to be going to the banks than money going toward infrastructure and job creation (leave it up to a republican) Oh and the reason why it seems like Obama spent so much more than Bush was because Obama is including Katrina relief and Iran and Afghanistan costs in the budget IT'S CALLED BEING HONEST, something the "Rove" Administration oops, I mean the Bush administration was incapable of doing. This is what happens when your PR guy is better at his job than you are; the means exceeds the talent, a Bush becomes president, and there's all sales and no product. Rove is a master salesman; Bush Jr. was the broken vacuum cleaner.

[Titonwan]

89. The very fact they let this pig on ABC should be reason to write a letter.

I always knew little George was a big whore, but to let utter trash like Karl on there rips it for me.
Write or E-mail This Week and bitch like crazy. You sit by, they're just going to walk right over us.
That c#cksucker ought to be in prison, not on TV.

[Grinchie]

90. Too bad he cant talk to a Subpoena the way he's singing for these idiots.

Isn't this turd supposed to be in jail for refusing to show for a Congressional subpoena?

ABC should be boyctted for allowing this peice of shit on the air.

[scribble]

91. Katrina did NOT own the debate.

NO, No No.

Karl Rove owned the debate, not KVH. Rove talked four times longer. He was smooth and told lies really well. He was seldom confronted.

I liked what KVH had to say and it was refreshing to hear Rove confronted a few times with a strong dissent; but KVH did NOT run the show.

It does NOT help us to claim otherwise. We still have a lot of work to do. So does KVH.

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I gave up on these ugly little sunday shows several years ago. A five minute YT recap is fine for me.... but not a recap that carries a misleading header like this one. STOP IT.


sc

[Liberal_Christian]

101. It depends...

We've all heard, "It's not what you say, it's how you say it", and unfortunately it's true. Although Carl was smooth, so was OJ and we all knew he was guilty of something. If you listen to the words; to what they are saying; Katrina did in fact "own" the debate. You said yourself, "He was smooth and told lies really well" (but you still knew they were lies). I agree with you though it's no reason to feel complacent; progress was never handed to anyone, it's something we have to work at.

[northernlights]

103. baloney

Katrina was absolutely devastating. And Rove knew it.

Just because he was loud and rude, talked the most, interrupted and tryed to talk over, doesn't mean he "owned" the debate.

Katrina let him run out of steam, and then quietly, politely, clearly punched holes clean through him.

He wasn't smooth at all, once she started twisting his nuts. What do you think all his stammering and bluster were about?

She absolutely creamed him, and he knows it.

[rasputin1952]

108. You must have missed most of the discussion...

as well as the nuances.

The "Mr. Rove" from KVH showed she owned him from the start of the discussion. She refused to allow Rove to talk over her, her facts were straight up and her eyes spoke volumes.

Rove's body language spoke volumes as well. Deer in the headlights look, the "power-play" leaning...then the "srrogance" and finally, the sit back, "oh-shit" moment.

KVH is a brilliant woman, she does not dance into the ball; she goes in after reviewing all she can, she has her facts in order, she ate him alive when she said she had read the report, in fact, that became the "oh-shit" moment. Rove held up a stack of most likely blank papers, KVH already had the documnet in her head. She was well prepared.

She is an astounding woman...if given 2-3 more minutes, KVH would have had Rove's eviscerated body soiling the floor.

[quidam56]

102. They don't care about children living in poverty and 3rd world America

All they care about is GREEDY ways to pad their pocket books. http://www.wisecountyissues.com Politicians and Profit Machines first, Hell with 'the people'.

[Lateedee]

106. I want to vomit

when he says "with all due respect," when has Karl Rove ever respected anyone but himself and his views?

[Best_man23]

107. HEY KARL

Total National Debt (from Treasurydirect.gov)

01/20/2001=5,728,195,796,181
01/20/2009=10,626,877,048,913

DO.THE.MATH. KARL! Its not 2.9 TRILLION, it was 5 TRILLION in 8 YEARS. Your Boy doubled the national debt in 8 years. Satisfied?

DEBTpublics need to STFU when it comes to fiscal responsibility.

[Harmonika]

109. A This Week regular?

I am so not watching this show anymore. No one needs to see Karl Rove on a Sunday morning.
Not even Rove.

[geckosfeet]

110. Eeeee - yuck. Bet she took a shower after encounter.

What an ignorant slime ball he is.

Seems like he is only half trying these days. He can't intimidate people the way he used to when hiding behind bUshies skirts.

[florida08]

111. why did they let

this criminal dominate the discussion? Karl round table means all are equal. Katrina handed him his head but the man has no conscience..Stephanopoulos is a wuss.

[Serial Mom]

112. He dominated only 'cause he's RUDE and interrupted constantly!

Did you notice how everybody else waited and let people complete their thought yet the ass HAD to keep talking over others and interrupted?! TYPICAL re-puke - never listening to what others have to say except to make one incorrect point over and over!

[florida08]

122. you got that right

TYPICAL re-puke..don't listen to what anyone else says but us. They're despicable :grr:

[EnviroBat]

116. Good. let the republicans commit suicide.

The world would be a far better place without fake patriotism backed with fascists ideals. The day of the "Fuck you I've got mine..." mentality is at an end, and these greedy fucks know that they are going down. Hopefully for good.

Hey there Republican! I LOVE giving your money to the poor!

Idea for a bumper-sticker, that would go over great here in Columbus OH...

[Dinger]

117. Why Isn't KKKarl In Jail?

Contempt of Congress you know. Why in the hell did George have him on?

[Lorien]

127. The same reason Bush will never be tried for war crimes the same reason

the Fairness Doctrine will never be reinstated....we won't ever be TOLD the reason, but the "powers that be" protect their own.

[backtoblue]

118. Why is he...

allowed to set foot on any public media? He should be in prison, not making money by poisoning the minds of those who might listen to his bullshit.

[Kajsa]

119. WHAT?!?!

" recession handed to us (BushCo) by the previous
(Clinton's) administration"

WHAT recession, Karl?!?

We had a budget surplus when you bozos came into power.

Does this jerk not know when he's lying anymore,
because he's been repeatedly lying for decades?

Why isn't this man in jail?

[NJCher]

121. link to subscribe to The Nation

https://ssl.thenation.com/sumo/old_campaign


Cher

[NYC Liberal]

125. "Bush didn't intend to spend his time in Iraq when he got into office" -- Bullshit.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/01/09/60minutes/main592330.shtml

And what happened at President Bush's very first National Security Council meeting is one of O'Neill's most startling revelations.

“From the very beginning, there was a conviction, that Saddam Hussein was a bad person and that he needed to go,” says O’Neill, who adds that going after Saddam was topic "A" 10 days after the inauguration - eight months before Sept. 11.

“From the very first instance, it was about Iraq. It was about what we can do to change this regime,” says Suskind. “Day one, these things were laid and sealed.”

As treasury secretary, O'Neill was a permanent member of the National Security Council. He says in the book he was surprised at the meeting that questions such as "Why Saddam?" and "Why now?" were never asked.

"It was all about finding a way to do it. That was the tone of it. The president saying ‘Go find me a way to do this,’" says O’Neill. “For me, the notion of pre-emption, that the U.S. has the unilateral right to do whatever we decide to do, is a really huge leap.”

And that came up at this first meeting, says O’Neill, who adds that the discussion of Iraq continued at the next National Security Council meeting two days later.

[tclambert]

126. My problem with Rove is not that he's stupid, it's that he doesn't care about right and wrong.

He's smart enough to know his party and the man he made President wrecked the economy. He knows that the Bush years proved the core policies of the Republican party are fundamentally unsound. He knows that. But he doesn't care. He just wants to try to score debating points. He just wants to sound clever and does not care about finding the truth. He is great salesman and a despicable human being.

[garthranzz]

129. 4 minutes and I have to throw up!

What a liar!