Noam Chomsky On Gaza - 2009.01.13

[Joanne98]

Run time: 09:53 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuWm3G1FZvU   Posted on YouTube: January 18, 2009 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: January 18, 2009 By DU Member: Joanne98 Views on DU: 1859

 

[ananda]

1. Right on.

The noting of the Israeli targeting of civilians and the hijacking of aid boats really hit home. Chomsky says that the targeting and deliberate ramming of the aid boat Dignity was worse than piracy in Somalia.

And then there are the Israeli secret prisons and use of torture, reported in Israel and Europe but rarely mentioned in the USA.

So so sad.

[ro1942]

3. thank you

what a wonderful human being. so good to here the truth.

[Junkdrawer]

2. Poor guy just buried his wife....

My sympathies, Noam....

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/obituaries/articles/2008/12/20/carol_chomsky_at_78_harvard_language_professor_was_wife_of_mit_linguist/

[Cronopio]

7. Very sorry to hear about that. Sincere condolences to Noam. nt

[Jefferson23]

4. A great man that speaks the truth, thank you good sir.

[raysr]

5. Why do the

Jews(and non-Jews) in the US support this kind of atrocity? What is the core reason?

[jeff30997]

6. I don't get it either.

Religious beliefs, from Jewish extremists to Christian fundies are defying rationality.

[drmeow]

8. I believe that it is because

many of them have bought the prevailing propaganda. When my family came back from living in Lebanon in 1976, you NEVER EVER heard the Palestinian side of the story. It has only been in the last 10 years that even a remote amount of balance has entered into the US discourse about Israel and even then it has continued to be tremendously slanted. My sister did a great deal of research in Israel/Palestine in the 90's and reported that there are far more Jews in Israel who see the Palestinian side of the issue then there are Jews in the US. Jews in Israel are far less likely to blindly support everything their government does than are Jews in the US. I think there also is an unwillingness to believe that such atrocities are committed in their name. It is hard to accept that the victims should have flipped so far as to become the victimizer on such a grand scale.

There is also a tendency among all Americans to see all Arabs as one people - rather than recognizing that the Lebanese are not Iraqis who are not Saudis, etc let alone recognize that the concept of ownership of property also exists in the Middle East. They also believe that the land rightfully belongs to the Jews because they have bought the propaganda that no-one was living in Palestine in 1948. A Jewish friend of mine sent me an e-mail which said this, "Middle Easterners didn't have the urge to kill Israelites just because they want to spread into land which doesn't belong to them... it's not even a lot of land.... when they've literally got much more land at their disposal to occupy" (I sent her Avi Shlaim's article in reply on Friday and have not heard anything since).

America has demonized Arabs for decades which makes it much easier to believe the lies told about them by the Israelis.

[Maat]

13. That sounds like an interesting article.

Could you post the link to Avi Shlaim's article, please?

[drmeow]

14. Here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=124x241471

[Maat]

15. Thanks (n/t)!

[Porschenut1066]

10. Money !

[Turborama]

11. Have you seen these documentaries that contain Naom Chomsky discussing this?

They both give a very good insight into what's been going on...

Peace, Propaganda & the Promised Land provides a striking comparison of U.S. and international media coverage of the crisis in the Middle East, zeroing in on how structural distortions in U.S. coverage have reinforced false perceptions of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

This pivotal documentary exposes how the foreign policy interests of American political elites--oil, and a need to have a secure military base in the region, among others--work in combination with Israeli public relations strategies to exercise a powerful influence over how news from the region is reported. Through the voices of scholars, media critics, peace activists, religious figures, and Middle East experts, Peace, Propaganda & the Promised Land carefully analyzes and explains how--through the use of language, framing and context--the Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza remains hidden in the news media, and Israeli colonization of the occupied terrorities appears to be a defensive move rather than an offensive one.

The documentary also explores the ways that U.S. journalists, for reasons ranging from intimidation to a lack of thorough investigation, have become complicit in carrying out Israel's PR campaign. At its core, the documentary raises questions about the ethics and role of journalism, and the relationship between media and politics.

Full documentary:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6604775898578139565

Youtube Part 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCL6WdnuNp4

Youtube Part 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo2HW4T7wK4

Well seeded torrent if you want to keep it as a stand alone file:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/232809

Occupation 101

A thought-provoking and powerful documentary film on the current and historical root causes of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Unlike any other film ever produced on the conflict -- 'Occupation 101' presents a comprehensive analysis of the facts and hidden truths surrounding the never ending controversy and dispels many of its long-perceived myths and misconceptions.

The film also details life under Israeli military rule, the role of the United States in the conflict, and the major obstacles that stand in the way of a lasting and viable peace. The roots of the conflict are explained through first-hand on-the-ground experiences from leading Middle East scholars, peace activists, journalists, religious leaders and humanitarian workers whose voices have too often been suppressed in American media outlets.

The film covers a wide range of topics -- which include -- the first wave of Jewish immigration from Europe in the 1880's, the 1920 tensions, the 1948 war, the 1967 war, the first Intifada of 1987, the Oslo Peace Process, Settlement expansion, the role of the United States Government, the second Intifada of 2000, the separation barrier and the Israeli withdrawal from Gaza, as well as many heart wrenching testimonials from victims of this tragedy.
http://www.occupation101.com


Google Video verison:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2451908450811690589

A well seeded torrent of it:
http://www.mininova.org/tor/819069

There's also these two which added together tell quite a scary story:

Rapture Ready: The Christians United for Israel Tour
Max Blumenthal's latest takes us on a shocking and at times bizarre tour of right-wing Pastor John Hagee's annual Washington-Israel Summit, blowing the cover off the Christian Zionist movement in the process. Starring Joe Lieberman, Tom DeLay, Pastor John Hagee, Ambassador Dore Gold and a host of rapture-ready evangelicals praying for Armaggedon.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjMRgT5o-Ig


Pro-Israel Rally Attended by Big-Time NY Dems Descends into Calls for 'Wiping Out' Palestinians
By Max Blumenthal, AlterNet. Posted January 13, 2009.
Attendants of a rally joined by Sen. Chuck Schumer and Gov. David Paterson in support of Israel's attacks on Gaza went far beyond the pale.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FABqq_jjRRo

:kick: & R

[jeff30997]

9. K&R

That country is doing so many disgusting things tat it makes me sick.Any tourist who visit that

place knowing what is going on is a fucking pig IMHO.I'll spread the word around so peoples who

dream to swim in the death sea go to Mexico or Florida instead of spending money in that

damn place.

[mrdmk]

12. K & R n/t