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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 09:56 PM
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Colony Collapse Disorder Spreads
 
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from a article from
http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/wildlife/article2449968.ece

This bee story is sad and frightening and how example how the government is keeping information from the people

the article above was posted by whopis01

theres more to this story will put that up soon
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 10:06 PM
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1. have you heard about the cell phone theory
there was a post on Huffington post about it, bees seem to get disoriented around power lines and apparently the emissions from cell phones may also cause problem. But it seems kinda of dubious since bees and cell phones aren't in the same place often, and why would this be a problem in rural areas?
It's a bad situation and I think what's worse is that the colonies have been in decline for years and it's just now making news
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 10:10 PM
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3. This is fascinating you bringing that up cause now
reuters has put up that britain is saying the bumble bees in Britain are going extinct after they refused to tell newspapers they were having problems with their bees

I see some major Bull going around and there is a panic starting to set in


First they don't know whats causing it or if they do they don't want to make changes or admit the crops or pesticides they used
are killing the bees...I'm not surprised britain was the last to admit it
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 11:12 PM
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8. Arguing against the cell phone theory
The bee die-offs seem to have started here in the US, and only recently began effecting Europe. Since the Europeans actually have more cell-phones per square kilometer than we do, that suggests something else is going on.
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gasperc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 08:13 AM
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12. yeah, I was skeptical but why is the story getting play
it's seems to have died off but like I said earlier, bees and cell phones are rarely in close proximity to be an issue but it seems to be another corporate attempt to confuse the issue much like global warming to escape responsibility. The most likely case is that some new pesticide being innocently by the average consumer on their household plants and by farmers is having unintended consequences. It may not be killing them instanstly or outright but it could be messing up their tracking ability and making it impossible to find thier way back to the hive, dying from confusion and exhaustion.
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dave502d Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 10:10 PM
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2. Killer Bee
European honey bee sperm is inserted into a Africanized bee queen. The queen is then released into the wild. Scientists are hoping the injected Killer Bee queen will produce less aggressive bees and pass the gene to the offspring. So far, not enough queens have been released into the wild to determine if this plan will be successful.
http://www.insecta-inspecta.com/bees/killer/index.html
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 10:11 PM
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4. They are scrambling for a solution
hopefully that will work
thanks
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 10:29 PM
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5. I think we need to get these guys to check this out:
Edited on Mon Apr-16-07 10:29 PM by GreenPartyVoter
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 10:37 PM
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6. I wouldn't doubt if Monsanto's GMO crap has something to do with it.
It seems like it is spreading wildly at this point. Not good!
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 10:42 PM
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7. I think your on to it They have been pushing GM crops
all over the world they were using the bees as cross pollinators so they could sue other farmers of cross contamination
quite a racket the evil empire had but alas the bee was killed

I can't wait to see what will happen when they discover the truth
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Vilis Veritas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 01:25 PM
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10. I agree.
Monsanto's crops are single life span crops, the pollen carries the genetic marker that shuts off the ability to produce seeds. Farmers have to buy new seeds each year.

When you screw with mother nature at the molecular level you set yourself up for failure on a global basis.

Better stock up...
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 12:03 AM
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9. I posted a thread on this phenomenon last week....
...and the same questions came up -- what's causing it?

Whether or not its the transmissions from microwave towers for cellphones is uncertain. But some scientists in Britain believe there is a link:

From the article:

"The theory is that radiation from mobile phones interferes with bees' navigation systems, preventing the famously homeloving species from finding their way back to their hives. Improbable as it may seem, there is now evidence to back this up.

Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD) occurs when a hive's inhabitants suddenly disappear, leaving only queens, eggs and a few immature workers, like so many apian Mary Celestes. The vanished bees are never found, but thought to die singly far from home. The parasites, wildlife and other bees that normally raid the honey and pollen left behind when a colony dies, refuse to go anywhere near the abandoned hives. No one knows why it is happening. Theories involving mites, pesticides, global warming and GM crops have been proposed, but all have drawbacks.

<snip>

German research has long shown that bees' behaviour changes near power lines. Now a limited study at Landau University has found that bees refuse to return to their hives when mobile phones are placed nearby. Dr Jochen Kuhn, who carried it out, said this could provide a "hint" to a possible cause.

Dr George Carlo, who headed a massive study by the US government and mobile phone industry of hazards from mobiles in the Nineties, said: "I am convinced the possibility is real."


Article link: http://news.independent.co.uk/environment/wildlife/article2449968.ece


The idea that rural areas don't have many cellphones is not quite true. The microwave towers are strung from sea-to-shining-sea. I wonder how many microwave towers I hit when I call my bud in LA? And how many bees I hit too????

:shrug:
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 03:37 PM
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11. I lived without cellphones before I can live without cellphones
again I would gladly give my cellphone up if it kills bees

but I still think it has to do with GM crops
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colonycollapse Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-24-07 07:14 AM
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13. Actually, there was *no study between cellphones and CCD*
Edited on Tue Apr-24-07 07:15 AM by colonycollapse
Actually, there was *no study between cellphones and CCD*. See here:

http://colonycollapse.org/content/view/23/1
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