Bill Maher waxes poetic on religion on The View

[Greeby]

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The cheerup I was needing today

:rofl:

[Monkeyman]

1. K and a Big R

[liberal N proud]

I love it - He pegged Hasselback right off and she couldn't respond

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I also like the man for his ideals on Presidential team Edwards - Obama That is the ticket.

Great performance!

[jgraz]

4. OMFG -- how does that woman feed herself?

I have never seen more pure stoopid pour off of my computer screen.

[TexasBushwhacker]

11. Hubby plays for the NFL

He's the QB for the Washington Redskins.

[jgraz]

12. So he feeds her?

Or has he set up some sort of home-care arrangement?

[TexasBushwhacker]

15. She did what dumb pretty blondes are supposed ....

to do - she married "well". Now I wish she'd just STFU, like dumb pretty blondes are supposed to do. You can tell by the way she explains her conservative views that she's just memorized her talking points and has never had an original though in her head. I think she's a great example to argue against the concept of "intelligent design".

From Wikipedia:

"On an episode which aired on August 2, 2006, Hasselbeck got into a heated debate in which she strongly opposed the Food and Drug Administration's plan to sell the "morning after pill" as an over-the-counter drug. Experts are unsure as to whether the pill only prevents the release of an egg or also prevents the implantation of a fertilized egg. Hasselbeck stated, "I believe that life begins at the moment of penetration...and when that egg is fertilized..." She felt the pill should even be banned in cases of rape and incest, because even then "that life still has value." Hasselbeck argued that advocates of the drug use the "rape or incest" exception as a "bait-and-switch" distraction from the goal of making it universally accessible. She argued if the "rape or incest" exception was all advocates cared about, they would not support its over-the-counter status. After Joy Behar poked fun at Hasselbeck's argument (finishing Hasselbeck's comment "life begins" with "with flirting"), Hasselbeck, visibly distressed, became louder and her face flushed; co-host Barbara Walters told her to "calm down"."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elisabeth_Hasselbeck#_note-0

[jgraz]

17. Conservatives must just cringe every time she opens her mouth

She's even dumber than most of them

[goddess40]

52. I think they are just like her

she just makes liberals cringe

[BattyDem]

25. "I believe that life begins at the moment of penetration.."

Did she really say that??? How the hell can life begin at penetration?!? :wtf:

What a f*cking idiot! :eyes:

[TexasBushwhacker]

47. I like Joy Behar's response

She said "Life begins with flirting" and EH apparently blew a gasket.

[BattyDem]

49. LOL!

:rofl:

I'm sorry I missed that! :D

[jwtravel]

26. Redskins?

Matt Hasselbeck plays for the Seattle Seahawks.

[mikeyj84]

28. Not Matt

The ditz is married to his Brother

[mikeyj84]

27. QB for Redskins

Wong, he the lowley third stringer for the NY Giants, and she's an airhead, her nickname is Texas, 'cause she has a lot of wide open spaces between her ears!!!!

[BattyDem]

48. Yep ... third stringer for the Giants

He's the guy on the sidelines wearing the shoulder pads and carrying a clipboard.

[FloridaJudy]

2. Thanks.

I needed a good belly laugh. Maher's take on McCain is a classic.
K/R

[greyghost]

22. Way to go ...

Bill! K&R :kick:

[LaStrega]

3. Heh!

I like what Buck has to say about the daft Ms. Hasselbeck:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wEThqdiwwfY


(I love me some Buck)

[The Count]

5. Pretty good, but I cringe when he says "we" ("We need a sure winner")

I never considered him more than the occasional fun companion - politically speaking.

[progressoid]

6. Yeah, that "we" kinda surprised me.

Usually, he boasts about being libertarian/independent. Now he's with us? :shrug:

[jgraz]

7. I think by "we" he means "America"

[progressoid]

8. Oh... yeah. That makes sense. I need coffee.

[paparush]

9. "The End of Faith" - by Sam Harris

Read it.

"The End of Faith provides a harrowing glimpse of mankind’s willingness to suspend reason in favor of religious beliefs, even when these beliefs inspire the worst of human atrocities. Harris argues that in the presence of weapons of mass destruction, we can no longer expect to survive our religious differences indefinitely. Most controversially, he maintains that “moderation” in religion poses considerable dangers of its own: as the accommodation we have made to religious faith in our society now blinds us to the role that faith plays in perpetuating human conflict. While warning against the encroachment of organized religion into world politics, Harris draws on insights from neuroscience, philosophy, and Eastern mysticism in an attempt to provide a truly modern foundation for our ethics and our search for spiritual experience."

LINK

[Arugula Latte]

10. Oh, man, Bill was really telling it like it is ...

I love the stork analogy. :rofl:

How refreshing. I love it when someone stands up and just says flat out that all religion is a big steaming pile. :applause:

[Dave From Canada]

23. Yes, being Catholic, I love it when I'm told that my religion is a big steaming pile. It

gives me warm fuzzies. :eyes: Why do so many of you get such glee from Bill insulting religion? I don't get it.

[Arugula Latte]

24. Here is why I do:

From the time we're small kids in this country, being religious is sold to us as "the norm." Many people assume other people go to church, and of course they believe in the magical beings "God" and "Jesus." We have to listen to prayers whether we want to or not. Atheists are villified. Bibles are put in motel rooms. Belief in these creatures is put on money. And so on.

Imagine living in a world where everybody believed in, say, a magical giant purple rhinocerous. They talked to the rhino, they got down on their knees and prayed to it, they fought wars over it. Now imagine you think that the whole thing has no basis in reality. Yet, YOU are the reject, YOU are the outcast. Now imagine someone goes on TV and says: "You know, this belief in the magical purple rhino is ridiculous." You'd feel relief, and pleasure, and, yes, glee.

It's not often we see our viewpoint reflected anywhere in mainstream culture -- so we savor it when it happens.

[spoony]

30. If your viewpoint

is represented by a hostile Joe-Camel lookalike who sneers at everyone who doesn't think like him, then no one should really wonder why it's not reflected more in mainstream culture.

[Arugula Latte]

32. Yeah, and atheists never get sneered at by know-it-all religious types...

Please.

Being sneered at is a common occurrence for atheists. We've been sneered at by everyone from the Pope to Coulter to Dobson to Phelps to Robertson to Bush and on and on ...It's interesting to me how sensitive and flustered so many religious people get when the tables are turned (which happens so rarely in mainstream culture, which is why it's so exciting for us when it does happen).

[spoony]

33. Lol, I do so love the "but mom they did it first" argument

Maher is a prick. Falwell is a prick. People who like them and feel they're their voices in the media, are usually pricks too.

[Arugula Latte]

34. I don't feel Maher is "my voice." It's just refreshing to me to hear

his viewpoint stated on this particular subject. If you rarely heard your belief (whatever it happens to be) stated in mainstream culture, you would feel gratified and have that "Ah, finally said out loud what I've been thinking" moment. That is all.

Apparently, though, even on a liberal site like DU, atheists are expected to toe the line and shut up lest we ruffle the feathers of our diety-worshipping cohorts. We're slapped down constantly even here.

[spoony]

36. Do you consider respecting others in your party to be too oppressive for you?

No one's proselytising to you here, so yeah it'd be nice to not be told on a daily basis that I'm a superstitious zealot who relies on pixie dust and blah blah blah.

[Arugula Latte]

37. Oh, believe me, religious proselytising happens frequently.

Many people here on DU have no problem talking about God this and Jesus that and implying that those who don't accept that are wrong.

Outside of DU, I'll bet you've never had the pleasure of having atheists come to your door and tell you that you're wrong and headed for eternal damnation, have you? Religious people seem to have no problem telling other people they're wrong and they're bad and they're sinners (my cousins, for example, know I'm not buying what they're selling yet make no effort to temper their remarks). Yet, when non-religious people express their viewpoints, WE'RE being rude and disrespectful and how dare we, blah blah blah.

I'm sick of it. I really am.

[spoony]

38. How could an atheist tell anyone they're heading for eternal damnation?

That's for one thing. For another, who needs door-to-door when every internet forum, every day, is inundated with in-your-face insults directed at religious people. DU is no exception. And proselytizing is not the mere mention of God, for crying out loud. I've never seen anything even approaching proselytizing on DU, not by religious people anyway. Most people barely even mention God even if they believe because inevitably someone will piss on the thread with some unnecessary bile if they dare to.

If you have a problem with your family, sorry, but that chip on your shoulder doesn't have any of our names on it and people of faith on DU should not be attacked for that or other unpleasantries in atheists' real lives.

[Arugula Latte]

39. "every internet forum, every day, is inundated ...

with in-your-face insults directed at religious people"

Jeez, exaggerate much?

Also, have you not seen religious dogma spewed at the non-religious on the Internet? How could you miss it -- it's very common.

As for the damnation straw man, my point was that atheists aren't the ones knocking on people's doors telling them their entire belief system is wrong. No, that's the realm of Christians, mainly. I suppose other religions do it too, although I haven't personally encountered that. I have had plenty of dinners interrupted by the holy rollers who feel the need to come to my house to bother me in my own home.

"People of faith" are frequently saying they're being "attacked." When I agreed with Maher, I wasn't "attacking" anyone. I was expressing an opinion. But, apparently, it's so offensive to delicate ears when anyone non-religious has his or her say.

I could just as easily say people of faith are attacking me by expressing their disapproval of atheism. But I don't phrase it like that. I've grown a thick skin because I'm used to being dumped on for not buying into religious thinking.

[spoony]

40. So atheists DON'T tell people their entire belief system is wrong?

Do you even read what you're posting? What does it matter if it's at a door you can refuse to answer or a thread in GD you can choose to hide?

Don't you get my entire point? I'm NOT denying that theists attack theists, I'm saying that it happens the other way around too, and that on DU we are supposed to be united enough in opposition to war-mongering and poverty etc. to not piss on each other. And on DU, to any objective eyes, it's the atheists who engage in more hostile behaviour. It's completely, invariably true. The ratio of threads critical of theism versus critical of atheism must be 20:1.

And whereas believers here denounce our radicals, who are judgemental assholes, I have only once seen an atheist here say that Maher or Harris or Dawkins or Hitchens etc. should be more respectful in their words.

[BleedingHeartPatriot]

43. Maher may be obnoxious, but he actually tries to to do good in the world. Falwell is selfish and

evil and, in the one trait he shares with Maher, obnoxious. MKJ

[Dave From Canada]

42. That's the problem, you've let people like Coulter or Dobson define who you think are religious

people in general. You shouldn't take out your anger or frustration of them and their ilk on regular people, who probably tend to agree with you on most things than disagree. When you and others act this way, you don't make people feel as though they belong.

[Arugula Latte]

45. Well, it's not just the extremists.

It's hard for mainstream religious people to understand, but when you're not buying into the god-and-jesus stuff (which I never did, except for about two weeks in third grade when I really, really wanted to believe there was some omnipotent being watching over me and tried my best to convince myself of such a condition), you're made to feel excluded and lesser in thousands of instances through the course of your lifetime. After 41 years, it adds up, you know? It takes many, many forms -- and often has to do with people's unthinking comments because in their mind, OF COURSE everyone believes in The Deity and the magical human Jesus. Even on mainstream newscasts, there's a presumption that there really is a god, and that everyone believes in it.

But, like I said, it's as if someone is telling you there's a magical purple rhinocerous you should worship. It really makes no sense to us, but we're supposed to get in line with the rest of the groupthink.

[Dave From Canada]

46. Wow, in grade three you were trying to convince yourself of an omnipotent being watching over you?

I was playing in the sandbox I think. I'm sorry that you feel as though you're being persecuted. But many, if not a majority of people believe in God. As crazy as it might be. But nobody should be telling you should worship anything, I'm sorry for that. I know I wouldn't want anyone telling me to worship some magical purple rhinocerous. Both sides need to be more accepting.

[Va Lefty]

13. Once again, Bill hits it out of the park!!

[ToeBot]

14. Barbara Walters didn't have much to say. Wonder why? n/t

[NC_Nurse]

16. K&R

Awesome!

[valerief]

18. Wow, being uncomplimentary to religion on network teevee.

Gotta love it!

[spoony]

31. Why's that?

You have to love what about it? Disrespect? Arrogance? What about mocking deeply held convictions of fellow Dems do you love, exactly?

[Arugula Latte]

35. So, do you get up in arms when the deeply held convictions of

Democratic, liberal atheists are mocked as well?

[spoony]

41. No Democratic, liberal convictions should be mocked here.

Why do you and others think at least one should be?

[Dave From Canada]

53. When are atheists mocked? Like once a year? If ever.

[valerief]

44. I dunno. Truth just does that to me. Call it a quirk. nt

[Dave From Canada]

54. Well, if you think that's "truth", then that definitely is a quirk.

[Shredr]

19. Thanks I needed that. NT

[dottym]

20. love bill maher. i've been a fan

since his days on "comedy central". he speaks the truth.

[bamacrat]

21. Never can get enough Maher.

[StrictlyRockers]

29. More from Rosie on the View recently.

http://208.65.153.251/watch?v=Aa3kNG7KZEs

[nicknameless]

50. Why all the votes for a guy who says about Giuliani:

“He likes to put on a dress a little too much. He should run as a Democrat, this guy.”

:eyes:

[zanne]

51. Who's the woman with fried eggs on her dress? nt