Interview - Naomi Wolf - Give Me Liberty

[kpete]

Run time: 27:53 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI   Posted on YouTube: October 04, 2008 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: October 06, 2008 By DU Member: kpete Views on DU: 11346

 

[KaryninMiami]

1. Anything Naomi Wolfe says or writes, deserves to be kicked and recommended

She is brilliant- truly a wise woman.

[szatmar666]

2. George Soros wrote about this in 1997

His work is pretty much based on his LSE mentor Karl Popper's analysis of fascism and communism in "Open Society and its enemies".

http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/97feb/capital/capital.htm
http://www.theatlantic.com/issues/98jan/opensoc.htm

Then he wrote a book predicting the current financial crisis, exactly 10 years before it happened.

[Beam Me Up]

3. watched it just a while ago. NEEDS TO GO VIRAL n.t

[JohnyCanuck]

22. Digg it here. It's at 888 digs.

http://digg.com/world_news/Interview_Naomi_Wolf_Give_Me_Liberty

[Beam Me Up]

41. Has 968 now, thanks! n/t

[Fridays Child]

4. k/r

[BigBearJohn]

5. K/R a MILLION times. My chills are running up and down my spine. Won't go away.

[democracy1st]

6. thanks kpete

[Ghost Dog]

7. Hmmm.

k&r.

[ColbertWatcher]

8. Kick and enthusiastic rec!

[quispquake]

9. K & R

Terrifying...But really needs to be seen by everyone...

[Kip Humphrey]

10. Engineered chaos continues today. The economic crisis is the fuel. Watch the markets today.

[Indenturedebtor]

11. K+R but she never told us what we're supposed to do...

Riot? March? Petition?

[El Pinko]

18. There are very few specific things she could call for explicitly...

...without ending up in Gitmo herself...

[NinetySix]

49. Bubbles!!!

A dope trailer is no place for a kitty!

[snappyturtle]

21. She said that we need to find a DA brave enough to arrest bush/cheney

for one, as Bugulosi is suggesting. She said we are bound to speak up to our local governments not to take Homeland Securities monies. She said we need to talk to military members so serve a "higher" cause other than the president. Those were a few I remember.

[shadowknows69]

12. I hope Naomi can afford herself some good bodyguards

I fear for her. Such a brave voice. The only thing lacking in Naomi's plan unfortunately is how do we go about arresting the leaders of the coup when the justice system has been corrupted? That's the real rub isn't it, because the answer is unspeakable.

[Locrian]

13. god damn it

Can someone PLEASE summarize or give me a different link to non YOUTUBE?

I hate these video links - YouTube is banned in a lot of places and forget my dialup access.

[shadowknows69]

14. Summary: As of Oct 1st we're a police state and a dictatorship

And we should act accordingly. Naomi suggests, actually demands, that we must arrest the whole cabal and bring them to justice.

[Peggesis1]

16. accessing youtube

Take a set of ear buds or head phones to your local public library. The last I checked, youtube was accessable on computers there. Or make friends with someone who has broadband access. This is too important to miss.

[bobbolink]

71. Please Understand--NOT ALL LIBRARIES GET YOUTUBE!

Maybe yours does (or have you even checked before you recommend that as a possibility?).

As for telling people to make friends.... that is really insulting.

The poster made a reasonable request. If you choose NOT to try to help someone, at least understand that not everyone has the resources you have, and to be a bit more careful in your dealings with others.

If it's as important as you say, then maybe you can make a little effort yourself.

[SpiralHawk]

19. Summary: Totalitarian republicons have already trashed America & the Constitution

It's going to get a lot worse. Take action now to preserve liberty, the Constitution, and the USA -- for the republicon fascists have totally jumped the shark as of Oct. 1, 2008.

[clear eye]

78. Maybe this link will help?

I'm not sure because the original source is still YouTube, and I'm not tech-savvy enough to know, but here goes:

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Naomi-Wolf-Must-Watch-Vide-by-you-tube-081008-302.html

[JohnyCanuck]

15. Naomi Wolf: "We are facing a coup as of this morning" K&R

Wake the Fuck up America!

[bdamomma]

17. there are no words how I feel

but we are the only ones who can and should do something. The indicators are all there.

[moodforaday]

20. K&R

:kick:

[lib2DaBone]

23. She looks like Sarah Conners in the Terminator Movies....

..only this is for real..no movie.

[balantz]

24. It must be millions in concert for freedom n/t

[Dangerman]

25. I've got a bad feeling about this.

America will be on it's way to becoming a police state.

Capping off the legacy of George W. Bush. :mad:

Unless we stop him.

[ejbr]

26. My God. I knew it was bad, but this is fucked!

My blood is boiling! I just pray I don't do something stupid. I don't want to die or kill anyone, but if it comes to that...

Okay, think positive! I am in a bookstore now, I am going to buy Naomi's book and get a grip! Thanks for posting KPETE!!

In the immortal words of Marlon Brando, "the horror...the horror."

[passy]

27. K&R

[Piewhacket]

28. Serious people are VERY alarmed.

Naomi is a horrible speaker (gads, Naomi, get some lessons! I hope a better writer), but
the message is critical and urgent.

How to arrest the President. Good point, Naomi. But may God help us if it comes to that.
The right people will need to consider it.

I believe, as apparently Naomi does, that we have arrived at the "7 days in May"
scenerio, but worse. In "7 Days" it was a threatened military coup opposed by
the President. Here we must be concerned that the elected civil authority including
the President (via surrogates) is himself implicated. That is MORE frightening.

The indicators are too extensive to ignore or to pretend they are accidental. They line up
like beacons pointing directly to an objective. The objective is the overthrow of democracy,
and institution of a fascist Orwellian state (not theocracy as rw Christians may be thinking).

Naomi seems to be saying that TREASON has already occurred, the coup is here and must now be opposed.
I cannot refute her, it may well be, certainly a conspiracy to overthrow the US is already treason,
and much of an overthrow would be hidden.
What I say is that citizens must at least be on HIGH ALERT, now and especially post-election
if Obama wins (and may God help America if he doesn't).

This is no joke. Naomi is not creating undue alarm. The ALARM IS DUE.
WAKE UP AMERICA!

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[bertman]

36. Piewhacket, I think the horrible speaker part comes from the fact that she had limited time to cover

a lot of ground. If she had 45 minutes to lay this out I would imagine she could be more deliberate and emotive. But, I have to say that I was riveted by the content and found that she explained it well enough that I could understand it.

The part about the oath that troops take being to the Commander-In-Chief, if correct, is TREASONOUS. Their oath should be to the Constitution, as was the oath that I and millions of other Americans took when they were inducted into the Armed Services of the U.S.

[NJCher]

58. Naomi Wolf has the communication right

I couldn't disagree more. Her presentation is brilliant and that is because she knows how far out she sounds to people who do not watch this as closely as she.

If you will notice, she cites her sources at every step of the way. Don't take it from me, she says, go to Google and check out "Brad Sherman" and "martial law." She cites sources and she ties to actual developments that we all are aware of (bush and the Army in America). This style of speaking, which is almost like a research paper gone live (and I know because that's a topic I teach at the college level), gives her enormous credibility.

You may have noticed no one on this thread is brushing this off?

Furthermore, she lays out the scenario without emotional panic. That is hard to do but if that element is in the presentation, it costs in terms of credibility, at this stage of the presenting the concept, anyway.

Au contraire: Naomi Wolf is a brilliant presenter. She is on target for this stage of laying out the message.



Cher

[Piewhacket]

60. Uh, huh...

I appreciate your seeming "damage control", but such isn't necessary.
Content satisfactory, but poor delivery of content. She is not a skilled public speaker.
This is an important topic.

Don't make me get specific, I'm not her detractor and don't intend to be made one.
She just needs to clean up her delivery a little for better effect. I'm no exert but I'm far
enough beyond her to see she could use some pro help, and it would benefit the message.
Thats all.

Otherwise, I'm pleased many find her excellent enough.
I have no quarrel with those who do.

[NJCher]

62. professional help?

I hate to wave credentials around but you say she needs professional help. Just so you know, I'm a professor of public speaking at a university. In addition I have 11 years in as a private consultant to business executives. The subject? Public speaking.

Naomi may not be dynamic enough for you but her message is cool, calm and deliberate. Again, I repeat, her message is right for this stage of the communication.

If NW were my client, I would be very happy if the outcome was what I see here.

You have a perfect right to your opinion, but it is not a professional opinion. I put the above in italics for a reason.



Cher

[Piewhacket]

67. Yes,

as I pointed, her content was fine but she is not a skilled public speaker and
this is an important topic (of public import), and in my view
pro help would benefit the message. that is still is my firm opinion.

but then, you did didn't actually disagree with any of that, did you?
so then we aren't really in disagreement. why argue?

I offer that in full awareness of requirements and qualifications of a public
speaking professorship, the contents of university level public speaking classes,
the general level of competence of students in those classes, and the substantial
value of public speaking to business executives, public figures, and others.
Your work is important, I commend you for it.

see, harmony re-established, especially when we remember....
Its not about Naomi, or you, or your students, or me, its about the important
message she is trying to deliver and how it is received.

[petwlkr]

61. speaking of Rep. Brad Sherman

He will be appearing on Thom Hartmann's radio showing this morning (Tuesday 9am PST) to discuss this very subject. Find a local Air America affiliate or listen online.

Hour One - Guest: Rep. Brad Sherman, California 27th District www.sherman.house.gov Topic: Martial law threatened if Congress didn't pass bail out bill




http://www.thomhartmann.com/

[balantz]

29. One of the first acts of treason was 9/11. n/t

[wildbilln864]

70. reminds me of a video doc I saw...

a while back called "9/11:Birth of Treason" :hi:

[balantz]

75. Thanks for the link n/t

[wildbilln864]

76. you're very welcome. nt

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

30. K&R. Wish I could honestly say she's exaggerating the seriousness...

...of what we're facing, but she's not -- this is for real.

[pleah]

31. K&R Everyone needs to listen to this. October surprise has already happened.

I knew the members of the house and senate caved to quickly on this bill.

[clear eye]

79. Is it possible that all this was put in place in order to clean out the Treasury

and the boom has already fallen? Could it be that Cheney/Paulson thought there would be more resistance to bankrupting the country to the extent that the Baby Boomers won't get anything like their expected Social Security, and all Obama's promised programs, including the ones to rescue the economy by public works projects and government-supported green industries will have to be abandoned? Is it possible that there are no further plans to "control" the populace because after Congress ignored us and passed the bill that drowned our Federal Government's financial ability to govern "in the bathtub", we didn't storm Washington or go on a General Strike?

Can it be that we just haven't grasped how severely weakened our gov't has been made--without money how can our agencies regulate anything?--and that the perpetrators are quite content to have the next government be Democratic in order to take the blame for the total lack of functionality?? In a conference call by NYU business economist Nouriel Roubini to numerous leaders of large businesses, Roubini responded to a question by, of all people, Michael Eisner, regarding what will happen if the Bailout (not yet passed at the time of the call) was not properly regulated and simply "injected capital" (econo-speak for gave money to) financial institutions without getting equity for the gov't in return or went overboard and gave much beyond what is required to free credit. Roubini, who had to be pressed to address the issue, described economic devastation for our country and people in dry economic terms, emphasizing that the countries which now hold most of our Treasury bonds, China and the Middle Eastern states, are more rivals than friends and have no strong reason to save the dollar if the vast overindebtedness of a badly run bail out threatens it?

I'm guessing that the powers behind all this build-up to martial law are quite content to have accomplished their agenda. Congress at gunpoint has made to pick our pockets, and we just haven't yet noticed that the rent money is gone. The $1T figure (if you include interest) may have borne no connection to any specific bail out numbers, but it conveniently matches our total borrowing power for the foreseeable future.

[snot]

32. I think it might be helpful to start compiling useful info

I hope she's wrong but I don't spot any inaccuracies (my knowledge of history is scant but I think she's accurate re- recent events in the U.S.).

There are two kinds of info. Some of it is practical, but some just has to do with convincing others of how urgent this may be.

I happen to have saved the following:

Regarding the 1st infantry brigade deployed in the U.S. starting Oct. 1, see http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/ and http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=3522844 (page removed from Army Times but the DU post preserves a bit of it); also http://www.wsws.org/articles/2008/sep2008/mili-s25.shtml . (Sorry if duplicative; pulled together in a hurry.)

Regarding the construction of new detention centers in the U.S.,

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2085433 :

NYT: KBR -$385 million for building temporary US detention centers

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/04/national/04halliburton.html

Halliburton Subsidiary Gets Contract to Add Temporary Immigration Detention Centers
By RACHEL L. SWARNS
Published: February 4, 2006

WASHINGTON, Feb. 3 — The Army Corps of Engineers has awarded a contract worth up to $385 million for building temporary immigration detention centers to Kellogg Brown & Root, the Halliburton subsidiary that has been criticized for overcharging the Pentagon for its work in Iraq.

KBR would build the centers for the Homeland Security Department for an unexpected influx of immigrants, to house people in the event of a natural disaster or for new programs that require additional detention space, company executives said. KBR, which announced the contract last month, had a similar contract with immigration agencies from 2000 to last year.

The contract with the Corps of Engineers runs one year, with four optional one-year extensions. Officials of the corps said that they had solicited bids and that KBR was the lone responder.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x328869 :

Halliburton to construct HS "detention facilities" in US: $385M DHS award

Note that when this press release refers to "KBR" that means "Kellogg Brown Root" a subsidiary of Halliburton. This contract, and construction of the detention facility it funds, seems worrisome.

January 24, 2006 12:03 PM US Eastern Timezone
KBR Awarded U.S. Department of Homeland Security Contingency Support Project for Emergency Support Services
ARLINGTON, Va.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Jan. 24, 2006--KBR announced today that the Department of Homeland Security's (DHS) U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) component has awarded KBR an Indefinite Delivery/Indefinite Quantity (IDIQ) contingency contract to support ICE facilities in the event of an emergency. KBR is the engineering and construction subsidiary of Halliburton (NYSE:HAL).

With a maximum total value of $385 million over a five-year term, consisting of a one-year based period and four one-year options, the competitively awarded contract will be executed by the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Fort Worth District. KBR held the previous ICE contract from 2000 through 2005.

The contract, which is effective immediately, provides for establishing temporary detention and processing capabilities to augment existing ICE Detention and Removal Operations (DRO) Program facilities in the event of an emergency influx of immigrants into the U.S., or to support the rapid development of new programs. The contingency support contract provides for planning and, if required, initiation of specific engineering, construction and logistics support tasks to establish, operate and maintain one or more expansion facilities.

The contract may also provide migrant detention support to other U.S. Government organizations in the event of an immigration emergency, as well as the development of a plan to react to a national emergency, such as a natural disaster. In the event of a natural disaster, the contractor could be tasked with providing housing for ICE personnel performing law enforcement functions in support of relief efforts.

http://home.businesswire.com/portal/site/google/index.jsp?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20060124005819&newsLang=en

Apologies that I have not re-checked all these links; if any aren't working, try the "wayback machine" at http://www.archive.org/index.php .

[polly7]

33. kicked

[snot]

34. PS Don't forget to go rate up the video on YouTube.

[LatteLibertine]

35. I'm a Democrat who

also strongly supports second amendment rights.

I remember seeing a clip of Bush at a news conference once plainly "joking" it would, "be easier if I were a dictator." McCain has made similar "jokes" in the past.

IMO being scared is part of the whole problem. That's why we are are the point we are at now. Time to stop being scared and do what you know is right.

[HillbillyBob]

39. It is OK to be afraid, the thing is to not let fear rule

Fear is part of our survival instinct, it is what you do in spite of being afraid instead.
I am out gay, 25 year HIV survivor. I have been through it with the disease, the
numerous meds and side effects and the illness that comes with it.
I have also had death threats for it, and for being gay. Had threats to burn my home, hopefully with myself and partner and anyone else that might be 'low' enough to be visiting.
I showed them the business end of a shot gun, fired it too. I was very afraid, but you have to fight back sometimes, no matter if ya p*** yer pants.
I have been fired from many jobs when it was found out.
I am OUT, while I am not a flamer or flamboyant, I Will not hide what I am, I figure if they react badly it is their problem, I can walk away or fight back if need be (pepperspray is handy to keep on you JIC).
I figure if you or you or you know that I am gay and an alright person you will realize we are not monsters like the falwells and robertsons of the world would have you believe.
As to our government we should kick a bunch of incumbents to the curb.
W should be arrested and tried along with all of his toadys and collaborators.
If he does not go willingly , then my only suggestion would be to storm their collective bunkers. I am not physically strong enough anymore to storm much of anything.
One wonders if our own armed services would side with the people or have they been too far subverted and or programmed to protect their current civil authorities.

[Helga Scow Stern]

54. Welcome to DU, HillbillyBob!

Stay safe and well.

[bertman]

37. Military oaths. I just looked up the military oath taken by our officers and enlisted men, as

described by Wikipedia. The oath for the officers is different from that of enlisted personnel, but neither of them refers to being bound to anything other than the Constitution of the United States. ON EDIT: Also, the enlisted oath does state that personnel are obligated to follow lawful orders.

Someone please inform me with backup if this is bad information.

Regarding the Warriors Creed or Soldiers Creed, that is not an oath of service but rather a declaration of preparedness and diligence in doing the work of those who are our warriors.

The insinuation in this video interview was that the oath to the Constitution had been replace by Von Rumsfeld and the Warriors Creed had become the new oath. I would really like to know if that is accurate.

[JDPriestly]

44. Good question.

Sorry to rain on everybody's parade, but I think Ms. Wolf is overly emotional to the point of hysteria.

Yes, Bush's abuses of power are illegal, but also, yes, Congress is still functioning quite well, thank you, even if everybody disagrees with what they do at one time or another.

Also, obviously, considering the technology that is available to tyrants and would-be tyrants for crowd control, what could be more stupid than taking to the streets or performing violent acts?

The best defense is to remain calm, care for your family and neighbors and try to spread your own sense of calmness. It is OK to be angry, but express your anger only in your words, not in your actions. That just escalates things and gives tyrants the excuse to oppress you.

[truedelphi]

50. I was thinking the same thing. Jon Stewart made quite a few of the points she makes

And he is not hysterical.

As far as people being arrested at the Repuglican Convention, and cameras being snatched to expose the film, I guess she is too young to remember the 1968 protests. Same thing happened there.

Immigrants have been rounded up for decades. In a most terrible and demeaning and life threatening way (Latinas are arrested and there is never concern about whether their children are home fending for themselves.)

If she believed this is as bad as she says, why isn't she doing a little bit more than appearing on talk shows?

[NJCher]

59. you call that hysterical?

...but I think Ms. Wolf is overly emotional to the point of hysteria.

This is hysteria:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qOW__TneAY

Please, get a grip. You are in denial.



Cher

[Sequoia]

38. I have that book on hold at the library.

Saw it in the bookstore so checked out to see if library had a copy.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

40. Rep. Brad Sherman is another hero that should be commended.

Just Wow.

[NoSheep]

42. The article is back up on Army Times with the following correction:

The Army Times article about the Oct 1 domestic deployment signalling the coup Naomi speaks of here has been changed:


Correction:
A non-lethal crowd control package fielded to 1st Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, described in the original version of this story, is intended for use on deployments to the war zone, not in the U.S., as previously stated.


*********

This had come down for some time. I checked it an hour or so ago and it wasn't available. Now it is back with this.


Here is a link to the comments
http://www.militarytimes.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1568518

[KewlKat]

45. I found the article on the ArmyTimes

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

[eowyn_of_rohan]

57. Very interesting...

Not that I believe it. What would make them change this story?

From the original article posted Sept 8, 2008:

The 3rd Infantry Division’s 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys. Now they’re training for the same mission — with a twist — at home.

...this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.
...They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.

...The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.

“It’s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they’re fielding. They’ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we’re undertaking we were the first to get it.”

...“I don’t know what America’s overall plan is — I just know that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, there are soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that are standing by to come and help if they’re called,” Cloutier said. “It makes me feel good as an American to know that my country has dedicated a force to come in and help the people at home.”

[NoSheep]

72. yes. A ridiculous attempt to say they didn't mean it

[NoSheep]

43. Link to an article on the Myth of the Posse Comitatus Act

http://www.homelandsecurity.org/journal/articles/Trebilcock.htm

For those who don't know, this act states it is illegal to use the army as a civilian police force. This article cites examples where a precident has already been set for it so it CAN be done.

[wildbilln864]

46. check this out...

"Bush, nazis and fascism, where did they meet?"
video link

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

47. Spot on, Bill.

Here's the template there using:

http://www.crisispapers.org/Editorials/germany-1933.htm

It is said that history repeats itself -- that's because it does.

[LaStrega]

48. Too late to rec but I have it a digg n/t

[GinaMaria]

51. So is that what this non-specific anxiety is?

I've been experiencing slight panic and anxiety as well as insomnia. This feeling started in August and has grown progressively worse through September and October. I've been compelled over the last year to look for work overseas. The economy has halted my job prospects. Has anyone else been experiencing anything like this? So overwhelming.

[balantz]

52. Yes, I have.

I was already aware of the progression toward a more entrenched fascist state and possible martial law and no elections and etc., but there is a palpable sense of dread or doom in my energy and in the air that has been increasing more so in the past few months and of course heightened quite recently with this "economic 9/11".

[Piewhacket]

64. The secret of life.....

is "balance".

(not "seawater", which is only a partial credit answer permitted biologists).

When I was in law school two of my classmates came up and asked how it was I could
(seemingly) manage so well to cope with the impossible workloads and other insanity.
You have to understand, law school is about STRESS and ABUSE. I'm sure there is some
good but unexplained reason for that, somewhere.

Of course, as far as I could tell I was doing no better than they or anyone else,
that is, I was DROWNING too! But I thought quickly and an image popped into my head
of a tightrope walker trying to stay upright on a wobbly rope over a chasm
during a hurricane. And that's when it came to me. The secret of life.
"Balance." I said to my classmates, then rushed to my next class.
True story.

"Balance" is not the full answer, clearly, because "breathing" at appropriate
intervals is also beneficial. Please remember that.
The rest you'll have to figure out yourself.

Stay well.

[balantz]

65. Gee thanks. I always wanted to know the secret to life, I'm glad you could fill me in. n/t

[balantz]

68. I'm sorry I was a little snippy there.

I must have lost balance! :hi:

[Piewhacket]

69. Might have lost a little "balance"....

which is easy to do when tightrope walking on a wobbly rope
over a chasm during a hurricane....


but all will be well, just so long as you don't lose
your "balantz".
:hi:

[Mr_Jefferson_24]

53. Kick.

[OakCliffDem]

55. Kick

[wildbilln864]

56. kick again! the time is short!

somebody arrest the mofos before it's to late!

[LynnTheDem]

63. you betcha

yep

[ihavenobias]

66. Thanks for posting n/t

[seemslikeadream]

73. kick

[medeak]

74. kicking!

[trudyco]

77. I don't think Americans will play along with this

The military may be conditioned to follow orders but most of those guys are National Guard traumatized in Iraq. And most of those are supporting Obama.

They won't be brainwashed.

What scares me is that if this is true and they find Americans don't panic enough over the financial markets, then they will induce an attack of some sort - biological, chemical, etc. Something they can control so it probably won't be biological. Even then, I don't see Americans doing anything that will justify Martial Law. I just don't see our military falling for this.