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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:26 AM
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McCaskill: ‘Sarah Palin Has Been An Earmark Queen In Alaska. That’s The Facts.’
 
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McCaskill: ‘Sarah Palin Has Been An Earmark Queen In Alaska. That’s The Facts.’

This week on “The View,” Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) claimed that Sarah Palin had never requested earmarks as governor. Today on ABC’s “This Week,” campaign spokeswoman Carly Fiorina repeated the lie, claiming Palin did not request earmarks for Alaska:

FIORINA: Sarah Palin as governor stood up and said, I know earmarks are corrupting. We must ask for less of them–

STEPHANOPOLOUS: But she still requested them.

FIORINA: As governor she did not. <…>

MCCASKILL: Sarah Palin has been an earmark queen in Alaska. That’s the facts.

Stephanopolous corrected Fiorina when she falsely claimed that Palin had “rejected the money for the Bridge to Nowhere.”
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dennis4868 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:32 AM
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1. I am fucking sick and tired...
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 11:33 AM by dennis4868
of people saying that Palin stopped the Bridge to Nowhere...Congress stopped it. George S. just said she stopped it after she was for it. Palin could not stop it. Only Congress can do that. She was not even governor when congress decided not to go through with the project. She only came out against it after Congress decided not to go through with the project.

What is so hard about this people?
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Enrique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 11:53 AM
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2. I think George nailed Carly
George: "but it is true that Gov. Palin took the money?"

Answer "um... Sarah Palin has made significant reforms..."
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bulloney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 12:09 PM
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4. You can see it threw Carly off on her canned talking point.
Edited on Sun Sep-14-08 12:18 PM by bulloney
Notice how she literally spun her head around and was speechless for a few seconds (which on TV is an eternity). They she went back into her 'default' line about Sarah Palin and her record of reform. No accurate specific examples. She's just been a reform candidate.

They've been so used to having their bullshit go unchecked they don't know what to do when someone calls their bluff.

Geez.
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ksimons Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 12:04 PM
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3. 18 million cracks in the Republican facade continue to appear nt
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CitizenPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 12:17 PM
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5. talking heads
reframed the "reform" question to be about being against your party, as that is what it means for McCain, who was never against his party.

reform for obama does not mean being against his party; his party is not in charge. His party is not the corrupt party with the failed polices, so why would he reform against his party? To reform, for Obama, could mean to be 100 percent in line with his party, if he so chooses.

what is so fucking difficult about this and why are these assclowns so illogical? Why doesn't anyone point this out?

Talking heads: I charge thee with FAILURE TO THINK! (again)
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sop Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 12:32 PM
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6. "If my opponent want to have this debate...we can have this debate!"
Apart from all the lying from McCain and his supporters...and I hope they keep on doing it, since the media is finally latching on to this narrative...the one debating tactic I am so sick of is the line, usually delivered with a certain degree of arrogance in the midst of a debate one happens to be losing badly: "if my opponent wants to have a debate on (pick the particular topic), we can certainly have that debate".

This rhetorical ploy has the effect of short-circuiting any further debate on the issue. The person issuing this empty challenge smugly pretends they've actually won the debate. And the moderator moves on to another topic.
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CaptJasHook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:29 PM
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8. and the moderators invarieably let them get away with it.
We call that in the education business a "teachable moment". Why the hell didn't George press the point and take her up on her offer?

Florino, or whatever her name is (I will just refer to her as the TPV, Talking Point Vomiter), tried to obfuscate by taking on at least four separate debating subjects. TPV was trying to cover her loss of the debate by changing the subject and shotgunning as many dull, rehashed McCain Camp key words as possible.

I am not the most intelligent dupe on the block, but even I can easily sense the lack of response. Are most of us just stupid? Or can we just not... quite... grasp the mental disequilibrium?
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Limelight Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 02:47 PM
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7. I love the "He never stood up against his party" line...
Why would you stand up against your party when your party is RIGHT?
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sop Donating Member (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 04:25 PM
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10. Perfect response to that talking point...
Good observation...Next time one of McCain's surrogates uses that line...."Obama never once stood up to his party".... we should just respond by saying something like: "Well, Obama's party never lied us into a war, destroyed the economy and made America the laughingstock of the entire civilized world....he didn't have to take on his party, he was working with them, trying to stop Bush and McCain from screwing things up".
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 03:49 PM
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9. this coming from the woman who practically drove HP into the ground
with her "brilliant" idea to buy Compaq in 2002, I don't think she's qualified or has the judgement to say anything about anything. Upon news of her being forced out by the board, HP's stock jumped 6.9%. Talk about dancing on a grave.

She and Palinoccio are cut from the same lying cloth. And McCaskill would know better than Fiorina because she's been in congress and has seen the documentation: Fiorina only knows what she's been told by Rove.
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-08 10:49 PM
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11. MCCASKILL: Sarah Palin has been an earmark queen in Alaska. That’s the facts.
MCCASKILL: Sarah Palin has been an earmark queen in Alaska. That’s the facts.
MCCASKILL: Sarah Palin has been an earmark queen in Alaska. That’s the facts.

Worth repeating.
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