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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:27 AM
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Sally Quinn Rocks on CBS Morning: Sarah Palin needs to rethink her priorities.
 
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grannie4peace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:39 AM
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1. fair & balanced????????? oh, that's faux
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:42 AM
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2. So here is Quinn who HAS HAD a child with special needs, talking about reality, how difficult it is,
juggling work and family in that situation—and the host feels that a good rebuttal to that is asking Huckabee's daughter a hypothetical question about how she would have felt about her upbringing if her mother had been governor instead of her father (Of course! It would have been no different, daughter says). That is so freaking absurd. That is what passes for discourse and commentary in this country. What a joke.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 07:42 AM
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3. Hate to say it.
Sarah Huckabee and Rep McMorris-Rodgers are right. There's a many, many, many, many issues to criticize Palin about - and her parenting skills isn't one of them. As more women win public office, so will more mothers. We better get used to it.
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Hulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:29 AM
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7. I'll just say I disagree....
Then make it "the two parents" certainly have a full plate when you consider five children, one with special needs" and a 17 year old daughter dealing with a pregnancy seems to be quite a handful for any family.

I'm not suggesting it's palin's problem, but it's the family's reality, and were she to be president...which to my way of thinking is VERY likely...I'm not sure we could have all of palin's attention where it needs to be.

Sorry folks.....but I see this a bit overwhelming and ridiculous.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:52 AM
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8. Their family circumstances are no different from that of 50 million others.
Of course it's not the ideal situation, but those others get along fine - or at least deal with it successfully.

You want to criticize her? Fine. Criticize her propaganda saying that IT IS the ideal situation. Criticize her policies that promote it, and that made it impossible for families with similar circumstances to actually succeed.

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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:26 AM
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10. 50 million others running for Vice President? With a 4-month-old special needs child?
I don't think so.

And you contradicted yourself. You say 50 millon families are dealing with similar circumstances successfully, then you say her policies made it impossible for them to. Your thinking is kind of garbled there.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 01:18 PM
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21. I said *family circumstances*
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 01:27 PM by baldguy
But again, millions of women pursue full time professional careers at the same time they raise their kids. And the fact is that liberals have worked to establish social programs to alleviate the burden of raising a family somewhat - and that Palin & the GOP want to eliminate those very same programs.

Look at the thread by debbierlus:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x3909266

We can't have it both ways: Liberals continually advocate for women to be full members society, with all the privileges, rights & responsibilities that brings - as it should be. We can't flip-flop and say one particular woman should stay barefoot & pregnant & in the kitchen, simply because we disapprove of her politics.

Sarah Palin isn't unqualified for VP because we may not approve of some of the choices she's made in her personal life. She's unqualified due to her professional history and lack thereof.
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Demit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 03:15 PM
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25. If a woman has a 4 mo old Downs Syndrome baby, then takes a job which requires immediate, full-time
travel for 2 solid months, I'd say that would raise eyebrows in ANY community of people.

You are generalizing out to an entire class of people—professional women with children—when that's not the issue. If this baby didn't exist, and it was just her other, relatively grown kids, then there wouldn't be this reaction. If she was still in the same job back in Alaska, in which her life had predictable routine, there wouldn't be this reaction. Your strawman argument is silly. No one is saying Palin "should stay barefoot & pregnant & in the kitchen." They're saying what kind of woman would think it's possible to attend to the needs of a special-needs infant at a critical time of its little life and at the same time be on buses and airplanes and preparing speeches and giving speeches and getting the hundreds of hours of coaching she will need to get in order to learn this job and function on the national and then international stage. There aren't enough hours in the day. Something has to give.

It's what lends credence to the rumor that the child isn't hers, but her daughter's. Her breezy attitude might just be because she knows she isn't the one the child actually needs.

You can't even make the argument that she had to take this job because of family circumstances—to support her family. In her own words, she had a "pretty cool job" as governor of Alaska. No, this situation is clearly one of a woman taking care of ego first. It goes to judgment. It goes to character. A lot of the rest of the controversies do too, but this is one that resonates. This isn't a choice she already made. It is one she is making NOW. And it makes people, including mothers pursuing professional careers, instinctively recoil.
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benny05 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:39 AM
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11. Agree with you
My beefs with her:

Tried to ban books from the library when she was mayor
Fired the police chief because he was trying to clean up the problems in town
No experience in foreign policy
Believes in the teaching of creationism in schools
Doesn't believe a woman has a right to choose when it comes to her private health
In the back pocket of the NRA
Anti-environment

and on and on...
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 01:30 PM
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23. dup
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 01:32 PM by baldguy
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 01:31 PM
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24. And on and on...
And on and on...

Criticize her for her political positions & lack of ability to govern - not her parenting skills.
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:32 AM
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17. But she has FIVE children. Not one, not two. FIVE.
If there were a man running for VP who had irresponsibly fathered 5 children, it would be more than appropriate to ask how those kids were going to be parented while he was attending to the duties of his office.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:12 AM
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4. So much RW spin, I'm dizzy.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:16 AM
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5. Exactly. Not being involved enough has led to the disgrace of an unwed
Edited on Wed Sep-03-08 08:17 AM by BlueEyedSon
pregnant teen daughter.
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yellerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 08:23 AM
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6. Spin = Hypocrisy
These women have no conscience. Lying is OK if Republicans do it. :puke:
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:17 AM
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9. sorry, Ms Huckabee, the subject HAS come up.
About the Obamas and how they are able to be in politics and raise their girls. It's been brought up how the girls live in Chicago with their mother and how Daddy comes home every weekend and spends the time with them and goes to their teacher conferences and ball games and stuff. It HAS come up, and it's a fair question.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:39 AM
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12. I agree this question would not be asked of a man
with the same circumstances.

However, I find it rich that the Repub women get all down with Feminist principles when it suits them...
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Minimus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:45 AM
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13. My issue is - what kind of mother would put her teenage daughter
in the spotlight knowing this would come out. Why don't any of the "news" people ask that question?

I don't care how adept she is at juggling career and family - I say "good for her" but I think she has shown poor judgement when it comes to her daughter. I feel for Bristol.


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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 09:47 AM
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14. I do not care about Sarah's kids or family - she has obviously never been
a stay at home mom and has left her mother, husband and older kids to take care of the house and younger kids. That is just fine with me, it sounds like she has other ideas of how to live her life and I say to any woman - go - be the change you want to see in this world, whether as a stay at home mom or a politician. It's not about just her mothering skills it's about her own ideas and her chance to be who she wants to be, with or without kids.

I do care that she could devastate this country with her religiosity and 19th century ideas of how other woman should live their lives. I do care that she would be given a voice to override mine on issues that I have had to work my fingers to the bone to overcome. I do care that instead of lifting up women she jumps on the band wagon with those who think like old biddies and hypocritical men. I do care that she would come within a heartbeat of becoming a president when she doesn't have a progressive bone in her body. From her past behavior it appears she is someone who will take much more then she will ever give, she is an authoritarian who believes things that science has proven are bullshit. She believes that I should have no choice about how to raise MY CHILDREN, she believes that my sex life and choices are hers to meddle in, she believes that earth is just hers for the exploitation. She believes that God wants her to take away my free will when even he/she doesn't meddle in the lives of others.

She infuriates me that she could be the same sex as I am yet have no compassion for others unless it benefits her.
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jamesatemple Donating Member (176 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 01:11 PM
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20. Fine post!
I'll declare! A reasonable response to a delicate situation. Nice work, OhioBlues.

Here in East Texas, I live among red-necked, beer-swillin' Bubbas, opining in one- and two-syllable words about how great a gun-totin', AOG fundy with no experience of which to speak is goin' to make a fine VP and, perhaps, a fine POTUS. For me, ridin' the internet to this blog is a bit of a respite from good, but willfully ignorant, folks who think I've lost my mind for supporting a young, charismatic, intelligent Democratic nominee.

Bein' the only secular humanist in the county doesn't help my "intellectual" standin' among my peers either. When I mention "poor folks" on occasion, the mighty-righties will often quote scripture stating that "the poor will be with you always...". It doesn't help my cause when I add that it appears that the ignorant will outlast 'em.
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rAVES Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 10:15 AM
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15. This is a strawman..
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 11:18 AM
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16. DONT WORRY--sarah palin has the courage and ability to DROP one for THE OTHER...quit being sexist
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 12:06 PM
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18. You guys have time to watch these
nonentity, she has to rebutt Sally's statement by asking Huckleberry's daughter about her
father being VP, what a waste of space and time.
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Dollface Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 01:04 PM
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19. The Real Question. Do we want extremists in the White House? Because that is what she is.
The Republican party is now the extremist party in this country. There are a few trying to move it back to center but the party is contaminated with and controlled by right wing ideologues who would rather destroy the country then let even moderates run it. They would rather cut the baby in half. It is love of power not love of country that drives them.
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Quixote1818 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 01:22 PM
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22. This is the one place I don't agree. The husband should step up to the plate then.
I think this is a non issue other than Republicans usually are completely against this kind of thing.
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demobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-03-08 04:06 PM
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26. And he isn't going to.
He already showed he wouldn't quit his job when Palin became Governor. She said he'd become a stay at home dad, then later retracted that statement because he refused to quit his job. He's a pipeliner - he works one week up north, then is off one week. He isn't around for the majority of the time.
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