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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 10:54 AM
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THE END IS NIGH NOVEMBER 2008
 
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bdf Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 03:40 PM
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1. Not sure what that video is trying to say in places
England to be known as the UK? That's like saying "California to be known as the US." Does it mean that England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland can no longer be referred to directly, only collectively as the UK? Or does the video not only confuse England with the entire UK but is also ignorant of the fact that the UK is an existing term?

England, Scotland and Wales are all part of Great Britain. Together with Northern Ireland they form the United Kingdom. It's been that way for a long time. Before the Republic of Ireland was formed, the UK was England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland. The Isle of Man and the Channel Islands (the bailiwicks of Jersey and Guernsey) are not part of the UK, they're Crown Dependencies.

So what is the video saying? You can no longer say that Newcastle is a town in the north of England but have to say that it's a town in the UK? Or just that it's ignorant about what England and the UK are?

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 08:22 PM
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2. You would know better than I. The piece would seem, or endeavor the use of allegory...
to convey a simpler motif: We're not going to take it! Or will we not? Where the 'it' may be the it to which the director is referring. This greater melding of concepts to include seats of monarchical oversight into what is now an imperial presidency.

The marches of east, west, north, south, and middle earth have been long ones. Seers in these parts nurture & conclude allegiance' for the reasons that they do, seeing fit to leave the whole of Southern Ireland out of the K however U'd. While, as a for instance, Phillip is born on the Greek Island of Corfu: Prince of Greece and Denmark, and vessel'ing the genes of Romanov, go figure...

The landscape is vast containing many moving parts. Where some are more comfortable with it's usage; allegory is valid as a means to engage & hopefully express the movements of those parts. So that even Graham Greene' "The Third Man Theme" has been deployed...the message would seem there's always a third man around somewhere, etc. At the director's youtube page he refers to: John Locke, Rousseau, and Pelagius, along with the following:

Country: United Kingdom
Occupation: Retired


Personally, I don't see Europe 'taking over' the British Empire, much beyond what is already lent by alliance and expanding commerce. No more likely than the picture of an American president on the paper currency of Mexico, as was alluded to as well.

My degree is in theater & admin. I've spent some time in England, not allot, mostly stop over stuff en route to France, still...

When my friends say they'll be in 'the UK on business' till such & such a return date, I know they'll be in London, maybe Leeds, maybe Cardiff. Unless they're on 'holiday' I believe it is. Then the lid pops off the can.

I do believe that some things are better left in a fluid state; they wash over us, we see what we see, connect whatever dots present themselves, shake or nod our heads along, and it is done :)
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