Speaker Nancy Pelosi

[iconicgnom]

Run time: 03:33 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dgxWIuxC6I   Posted on YouTube: November 09, 2006 By YouTube Member: Views on YouTube: 0   Posted on DU: July 29, 2008 By DU Member: iconicgnom Views on DU: 307

 
I notice this video was uploaded to youtube in '06 by taylormarsh

In this interview George Bush, Nancy Pelosi and Sten Hoyer all make a short comment "to the people" right after the election 06.

I recall being excited at the time, tho' still apprehensive after '04 -- still, there was the fact of new ground being turned and no going back. Unfortunately I wasn't heartened by this message from the Dems, from Pelosi and Hoyer. Try to put from mind the goofball on the right of the screen - tho' it's hard because he's such an obnoxiously embarrassing figurehead for the US. Anyway, listen to Pelosi and Hoyer. Two years have gone by and my judgement remains the same - there're two things wrong with their message: 1. no clear statement of principle or reference thereto, no suggestion of independent purpose; 2. 100% devoted to expressing a commitment to unity with, or absorption by, the Republican powers that be. And this is coupled with a statement that it's just that kind of unity of purpose, that kind of absorption, that people were voting for.

That's how I read it. Now, my purely editorial comment, that I hold Obama to a higher standard than such a two-bit bait and switch.

[mmonk]

1. I'm not sure I can watch this one.

Your comments are interesting though.

[OffWithTheirHeads]

2. The only answer is to replace Pelosi

It's the only answer they understand.

[iconicgnom]

3. It isn't easy. I think Obama will win and there'll be euphoria, and I'll join in.

That's for sure.

But, we've seen it now enough times, the cycle is very short, that unless stopped they come back to sting again and again. I mean, a person has to kind of drill a hole in their head and let the pressure out to think about it, but nevertheless it's true that the same people in the Nixon admin, and Reagan and Bush Sr. admins, are in the current admin -- and face it, the american people are more or less oblivious to anything that hasn't been on MSM the last couple days.

oh fugit, I'll rant some more. I think it's disgraceful to the human race that the neocon agenda rules virtually unopposed, on the ground, in "the west". I take it personally and I'm enraged at how slow the progressive revolution is going.

[mmonk]

4. Revolution?

All I've seen is a steady backtrack. I'll take the Congress of '73 over this one any day.

[iconicgnom]

5. I mean "revolution" in a global sense.

I don't think US popular politics -- who wins/loses popular US elections -- is indicative of the global movement, which in large part and on a surface level is in reaction to US policy. But I understand your incredulousness.

However, I think it should be remembered that the existence of a progressive revolution doesn't depend on winning on all fronts at all times. Hell, even the notion of what "progressive" might mean is fluid, depending on circumstances and depth of awareness. We can recognize commonalities, e.g. Thomas Paine is generally recognized as speaking a common progressive language - however limited was his understanding. And to your point, it's debatable whether a writer like Paine might likely wind up in a place like Guantanamo, today. Hell, the US has put the right of habeas corpus, which dates to Magna Carta, in jeopardy, and that certainly predates Thomas Paine. Nevertheless, for all these setbacks, there does exist a well established progressive revolution in human politics, and it shall not be snuffed out.

[mmonk]

6. Hope so.

However, if it doesn't arrive here where I live, how can I live it? I turn 52 in October and haven't seen anything quite like I've seen in recent years in US politics. It's hard to see the light sometimes.

[iamthebandfanman]

7. i think ill reserve that drastic action

until after Obama is president.

lets see how she operates when its easier to get alot done...

ive definitely been upset with things shes done, and fights shes back down on, but ill give her the benefit of the doubt until 09.

if she remains in the same stance then, ill be the first on here calling for action :)

[mmonk]

8. Nope. The only real remedy to all that has happened is being squashed.