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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:21 PM
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Friendly Fire - US Kills Brits in Iraq - Leaked Video
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 02:23 PM by edwardlindy
 
Run time: 04:31
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nC114g9p2ug
 
Posted on YouTube: February 06, 2007
By YouTube Member: shanesaintsfc
Views on YouTube: 247616
 
Posted on DU: February 06, 2007
By DU Member: dipsydoodle
Views on DU: 775
 
With friends like that who needs enemies.

edit to include news link. http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1250298,00.html
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Ezlivin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:31 PM
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1. Millions of dollars in training, billions of dollars in hardware
And we still can't keep from killing ourselves.

War is the stupidest racket on earth. The only people that profit are defense contractors.

The pilot (Popov) seems to be regretful of his actions and expectant of criminal proceedings.

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CJCRANE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:32 PM
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2. The bigger issue
for me is not that they killed a Brit by mistake (sad as it is) but how many civilians have been killed simply because they were in a convoy? (wedding parties, traders etc)
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:35 PM
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3. Fucked
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Why don't we stop this?

"What can you do, should have been a father, but he never even made it to his twenties." Army Dreamers Kate Bush.
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Little Wing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 02:49 PM
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4. Always seems to the lt colonels blowing up our own guys. Just like "Gunfighter6"
in Desert Storm, couldn't wait for confirmation, he just HAD to do some killin before he was retired from combat flight and given a desk job.

Scumbags. Life in jail, this is no fog of water, it's a trigger happy shithead.
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Why Syzygy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 03:18 PM
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5. What were they doing bombing
convoys in MARCH 2003? What date did the *war* begin?
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 06:53 PM
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9. This was the morning of Day 7, 25 miles north of Basra nt
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Casablanca Donating Member (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 04:07 PM
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6. "Collateral damage" - rhetorical rationalization to the rescue!
Edited on Tue Feb-06-07 04:07 PM by Casablanca
I have audio clips of American pilots doing the same thing to other American troops in the Gulf War, and it happened the same way ...

"Lined up?"
"Yeah, do 'em."
"This bird's for you ..."

* Muffled explosion.*

"Oooo-wee, we blew the shit out of that baby!"
"Uh-oh."
"Wait a minute, could be friendly fire."
"WHAT?!"
"Cease fire, cease fire."

Kind of puts a damper on the kegger atmosphere - those little "oopsies" on the battlefield.
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IntravenousDemilo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 05:13 PM
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7. Longer video here.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 04:51 AM
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10. That's the full version
The Sun is Murdoch owned. The fact they published this so quickly helps dispel the myth that our media over here is in any way comparable with Fux.
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 10:46 AM
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11. There is an ulterior motive with this being published by the Sun
it is another episode to whip up anti-foreigner feeling. Seems that the Sun doesn't care who they are as long as they are foreign.
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ama Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 12:24 PM
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13. Motive? to sell newspapers
Many people were angry because the Dept. of defense refused to allow this video to be shown at the inquest into the cause of death hearing in UK citing ¨security¨reasons
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TheBaldyMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 01:14 PM
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14. The Sun is sold at a price that loses money
however it does promote Sky at every opportunity, it is more like a free-sheet devoted to advertising for the Murdoch media empire.

There are recurring themes in the Sun
  • dirty, nasty, sponge-ing foreigners (except Australian moguls).
  • The BBC is shit and isn't worth the license fee; when the viewing figures showed more people watched BBC News 24 than Sky News, the Sun went into overdrive for weeks.
  • Public services - bad, private corporate services - good.
  • Taxation - bad.
  • European Union - bad


The agenda is set by a bunch of sleaze-bags who do their master's bidding. They do try and bump up the circulation but The Sun has not been sold on a commercial basis for years.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-09-07 06:33 AM
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15. All of our newspapers
have been sold at a loss for donkeys years. I've had friends you were AUEW and SOGAT going back to early seventies who explained to me even then that the main income came / comes from advertising - not selling copies. Don't misunderstand me - I'm certainly not defending the Sun.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-06-07 05:30 PM
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8. Amazing to look at the comments on You Tube. Brits attacking Americans and Americans pissed for...
Brits not realizing that "this shit happens in war." Back and forth goes the banter without one single mention of any Iraqi civilian who has died by the bullets and missles of both Brits and Americans.

These pilots, while perhaps negligent in this specific case, were doing their duty. The real blood drips from the hands of Bush and Blair--and that blood has no nationality.
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cjmastaw Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-08-07 10:54 AM
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12. News On This Video!!!
I was listening to RandiRhodes yesterday, and she said these guys weren't even supposed to be deployed over there because they hadn't received the proper training. I think she said they were reservists???
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