Wesley Clark On Face The Nation June.29, 2008

[SaveOurSovereignty]

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[eleny]

1. Clark is unflappable

K&R :thumbsup:

[Robeson]

17. My exact thoughts...

...unflappable.

[tblue37]

36. And very, very SMART. Clark for VP! n/t

[marias23]

42. Amen

[bjobotts]

53. Yeah but it's still Fox and Lieberman sits there making faces and the push r-wing agenda

[Adelante]

18. I don't know how he does what he does and remain a gent the whole way nt

[happygoluckytoyou]

2. w00 he was a prisoner of war.... qualification? getting captured

i honor those who serve.... but let's get to the real nitty-gritty..... what it takes to become a prisoner of WAR.... GETTING CAUGHT

bush and cheney are better.... they arent in prison yet

[cornfedyank]

5. wes over spoke

he should have left the sentence at getting shoot down.

[rebel with a cause]

26. text removed by author

because not sure what is being said here. If it is about mccain being qualified to be president because he was a prisionor of war, then that is a bunch of poppy cock.

[mwb970]

59. Why does being shot down and captured qualify him to be president?

The interviewer here seems taken aback when Clark rightly points out that being shot down does not automatically make you a good president, or in fact have anything to do with it.

Clark is kind enough to not point out that being shot down actually constitutes failing your mission, and that mccain had few real options once captured. He also doesn't emphasize that mccain's mission was to rain death and destruction on people from 35,000 feet up. (That's why he was shot down!) But where's the alleged heroism? I truly don't get it.

What are the Republican standards for heroism anyway? Is bush a war hero too then? He also failed in his mission, which was to stay in the military without deserting.

[rfranklin]

15. He broke under harsh interrogation...

and I believe that he crashed five different times. Sounds like loser to me.

[Adelante]

19. Breaking under harsh interrogation, though

Is nothing McCain has to be ashamed of. Crashing five times, yeah.

[NorthCarolina]

35. Hmmmm, was he waterboarded?

:eyes:

[hokies4ever]

34. I've seen reports joking about how McCain's Vietnam buddies nicknamed his 'Ace'

He is a reverse ace, since he lost 5 US planes. :rofl:

[AllHereTruth]

41. Breaking under interrogation

He broke under harsh interrogation...So would you. So would I.

That is hardly something that should be used against someone. Ever. - Please rethink your statment

[rfranklin]

44. No you rethink it...he supported Bush's "harsh...

interrogation techniques" even though he knew better. And, after what the Republicans did to smear decorated veterans of the Democratic party, this lying SOB is "fair game" as Rove would say.

[bjobotts]

54. You should google USS Forrestal and McCain. He got 134 sailors killed showing off

[bjobotts]

55. Putting on a uniform does not make you an expert on military or foreign affairs

[bjobotts]

56. Armed services committee is not a recomendation. There was no where else to put McCain

[sellitman]

61. I'm not a McSame fan but you should re-read the Forrestal Incident.

The video clearly shows it wasn't McCains fault.

[AllHereTruth]

57. Good Point....sigh

Yes. Good point rfranklin. You honestly read my mind.
I'm going to go out right now and get a bracelet that says WWRD (What Would Rove Do) :sarcasm:

Do you think before you post? Do you really want the Dems acting like Rove? Isn't that what we are trying to GET AWAY FROM?
Get your head out of your ass for a second and watch Obama speak. He is constantly praising McCain for his war service.

Please don't ever use a Rove quote as reasoning behind your logic. It really makes you look ignorant. - no offense

[johnt66]

63. No one didn't seem

to have a problem when Fox News and all the rest went after Max Celand, who left 2 legs and a arm in viet nam, and the republicans still swiftboated him, so there is a double standard.

[CountAllVotes]

3. Obama would be a fool not to choose Clark as his VP

Clark has got what is needed to solidify the Democratic party and the ticket!

GO CLARK!

OBAMA/CLARK '08!!

:dem:

[notadmblnd]

10. VP or Secretart of State

I just love Wes Clark

[sbyte]

28. Second the motion, Sec of state. Sensible advocate.

[whistle]

4. Noam Chomsky stated that the Bush.Cheney doctrine has been "madness in search of a war"

....and continues to be that on the way out. John McCain will take that same doctrine and wear it like a flight suit as he is demonstrating the same bat-shit craziness in his speeches and flip-flops on positions and policies

[malik flavors]

6. Only Clark (or Webb) can knock McCain's CiC credintials like that. He's great.

And should be strongly considered for VP.

[woolldog]

13. malik flavors,

that signature pic of yours is cracking me up. :rofl:

[goclark]

73. I love the way that Clark has demonstrated

his ability to be a voice for HC and now has graciously blended with Obama.

He was not insulting McCain in my view.

He was speaking from a military perspective, I believe it.

VP for Clark :bounce:

[gateley]

7. Very impressive -- great job, General! nt

[phillysuse]

8. Great job, General Clark.

"Well, I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be President."

[Gidney N Cloyd]

9. Schieffer is SUCH a d-bag. He has no idea how much he helped Wes make his real point.

That being, not only is getting shot down not a qualification for CiC, anyone who thinks it is is making a giant leap of logic that needs correcting.

[ginnyinWI]

30. I think Schieffer was just playing a role here

Surely he wasn't really surprised at Clark's comments. This guy goes back a long way with CBS and I can't believe he really doesn't understand the point. He was helping Clark out, that's all.

[Gidney N Cloyd]

46. That's an interesting take but I just can't agree.

I think his feigned 'astonishment' was intended to get Wes Clark to back off.
Which Wes Clark didn't.
Because a Gen. Wes Clark doesn't have to.

A Bob Schieffer, on the other hand, is a tool who has to do what he's told.

[DFW]

11. Schieffer didn't do his homework and is an ass for not doing it

He acted flabbergasted that Clark didn't think that McCain getting shot down and
being a prisoner of war qualified him to be president. Who the hell did Schieffer
think he was talking to?????? All he had to do was check out Wes Clark on Wikipedia:

"In February, only one month into his command, he was shot four times by a Viet Cong soldier with an AK-47. The wounded Clark shouted orders to his men, who counterattacked and defeated the Viet Cong force. Clark had injuries to his right shoulder, right hand, right hip, and right leg, and was sent to Valley Forge Army Hospital in Phoenixville, Pennsylvania to recuperate. He was awarded the Silver Star for his actions during the encounter."

Did Schieffer think a four star general with THAT behind him was going to be impressed by
a hotshot Navy pilot getting shot down?

Also, Wes was at the top of his class at West Point and was a Rhodes Scholar. Did Schieffer
think he was talking to a pushover? I'm sure there's SOME way to faze Wes Clark, but it there
is, they'll need someone with more candlepower than the likes of bob Schieffer to do it. I think
that if Obama decides that he doesn't want Hillary on the ticket, that he could do MUCH worse
than ask Wes Clark to be his running mate. There's no law against two impressive intellects
being on the ticket, even if Republicans seem to dislike the idea. It doesn't always work out,
as with Carter and Mondale, but it there's no reason it can't work out great, either, and it is
a given that it would be a major improvement over what we have now, or what McCain is offering,
and we don't even know who his running mate will be.

Another plus would be that Wes is known around the world, and respected (as is, for that matter,
Hillary). It would be the grossest of understatements to point out that one cannot say the same
about either Bush or his boss, Cheney.

[NYC_SKP]

45. McCain is nothing like Wes Clark....# 894 out of a class of 899, yeeesh.

Most of us know, for example, that John was NOT near the top of his class at the Naval Academy:

"McCain had conflicts with higher-ups, and he was disinclined to obey every rule, which contributed to a low class rank (894/899) that he did not aim to improve."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_life_and_military_career_of_John_McCain

Fifth from the bottom....sigh...

[FightingIrish]

12. Using Schieffer's standard, Duke Cunningham should be president

He was clearly a better pilot and never got shot down. Poppy Bush got shot down but Junior skillfully avoided combat. I think military leaders like Wesley Clark bring the right perspective to the discussion on use of force, not hot dog pilots like McCain who never had to thing strategically.

[Jim Sagle]

52. Using Schieffer's standard, Luke Duke should be president.

[TheWarIzaLie]

14. Obama/Clark08!!!1!

Could that host be any more biased towards McCain?? :puke:

When Clark said being shot down in a plane doesnt make you qualified to be president, I thought that hack was going to crap himself.. "IT DOESNT???!!!!!!!!!!?" :wtf:

[Rob H.]

16. That was a WTF moment for me, too

I wound up shouting at the TV,"Of course it doesn't, you idiot!"

Welcome to DU, TheWarIzaLie! :hi:

[Gidney N Cloyd]

21. Classic repub mindset. I can't count how many times I've seen that sort of WTF reaction to a fact.

They don't like people peeing in their koolaid.

[singilarpoint]

75. xxx

It's almost like saying that since you were in a car wreck that qualifies you to be a the CEO of an auto company. Twisted logic. But a lot of American people eat it up!!!

[Seldona]

20. Wes is just so impressive.

He is THE VP candidate imho.

[Faygo Kid]

22. Brilliant. He was again superb.

Would be an asset to the ticket. As for Bob Schieffer, he was light years better than Katie as anchor of CBS News, but his reaction shows just how tough it will be to criticize McCain with the mainstream media.

[Lena inRI]

23. NO-BRAINER = CLARK AS OBAMA'S VP. . .

. . .NOT HILLARY. . .

OBAMA/CLARK 2008

:kick: :loveya: :kick: :loveya: :kick:

[rebel with a cause]

31. I'm not going to claim to be an expert,

but I agree that Clark might be a better VP this year than Hillary. He has the military clout that the MSM seems to be pointing out constantly that Obama don't have, and I think he could take on this stupid suggestion that haven been shot down and held prisioner of war is a qualification for being president. In that case, I should be queen, because I have sure experienced enough sh*t to fill a life time, and I imagine there are a lot of other people here who have done the same. Pleaaaaase.

Another thing about Hillary as VP. I noticed the other day that the MSM would not accept that she and Barack had made peace between the two of them. I saw several of them smile widely in glee at the prospect of having several months of Hillary and Barrack together so they could critique them constantly. If she is the VP I'm afraid that the whole democratic message will be lost and we will be left with a panel of talking heads sitting around the table discussing whether or not Barack and Hillary are really getting along. What does their body language say? And what about Bill, where was he? If I had heard one more bloak ask that question, I would have screamed.

Anyway, Clark rocked!

[CJCRANE]

24. K&R for Clark nt

[DirtyDawg]

25. The thing that pissed me off...

...the most about old-man Schieffer (gee maybe the 'old-thing' is the reason he's so obviously 'pro-McLame') was his continuous challenging Wes Clark's comments while allowing that asshole Liebman make outrageous statement after outrageous statement without so much as a raised eyebrow. I hate to think it but BS (interesting how some people's initials tell the whole story) is starting to make his way into my 'Accountability Cards' - 52 names and faces that need to be held to account once we get these bastards out of power.

[DFW]

27. Maybe this is a Russert/Reagan syndrome

Remember, how when Reagan joined the dearly departed, that suddenly all Republicans
were doing their utmost to claim to be Reagan clones? Maybe now that Russert is gone,
tired MSM people suddenly want to be Russert clones. This means letting Republicans
blab on and on, no matter how wrong or boring they are, and challenge everything said
by a Democrat before it has even left their mouths.

[DirtyDawg]

29. I took a minute to...

...look up Bob Schieffer in Wikipedia. Guess what? His brother was a past business partner of geedubyabush (guess that means he was bailed the hell out too?) and is currently the Ambassador to Japan. Seems to me Bob should 'recuse' himself when doing anything other than covering 'Putt-Putt Golf'.

[DFW]

32. Or reviews of new sushi outlets.........

I agree--the rest to someone like him should be off limits, or showed with a disclaimer.

[ann_american2004]

76. BS needs to step aside

If this is the case, then he most definitely needs to step down. His brother was a business partner with these criminals? Then he shouldnt be in a place of authority to flaunt his biased opinion/slant. No way. What ever happened to real news coverage? Now it is just coverage as in to cover UP something.

[Maineman]

33. I nominate Wes Clark for VP

I perceive him to be an anti-war military man, someone who knows how to do it, if necessary, but would avoid war behavior if possible. Other military men say they hate war, but their words are hollow.

I actually experience the sense of feeling safe when I think of General Clark standing beside President Obama.

[elleng]

50. Maineman, you've really got it!

Wes studied diplomacy and war and peace at West Point, among other things, and he's one (among many, I'd bet) 'military' man who WOULD keep us out of wars!

He's also prescient, that is, has won positions for his ability to foresee the future, and future needs.

SAFETY! I can almost sleep soundly because he appears to be in the public view now more than ever, and I expect (foolish?) that will result in significant public position for him.

[Phoonzang]

37. Someone finally said it....

Flying a fighter plane and being shot down is NOT a qualification for being president.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

38. I know several Arkansans that are rooting for Clark

being chosen as VP. This video shows why.

[FrenchieCat]

39. That's my general!

:patriot:

[rasputin1952]

40. Rarely, if ever, have we had a diplomat like Wes Clark.

His understanding of the issues is outstanding, he is unflapplable, his intellecectual capababilities are beyond reproach, his dignity and honor are outstanding...and that slap about being shot down does not a "hero" make was outstanding...:D

:patriot:

[glarius]

43. What an amazingly clear-minded and sensible person Clark is!

As a Canadian, watching this all take place from afar, I have been a fan of Wesley Clark from the beginning. I have always thought he would make a wonderful President of the United States. Besides having his own country's well-being at heart, he has the all important characteristic of world awareness! I always wondered why he didn't have more backing as a presidential candidate.
Perhaps Obama should pick him for VP?

[mwb970]

60. I've favored Clark for president since I first started seeing him on TV.

He's obviously qualified as either president or VP (or Secretary Of State, etc.). He's waaay better than mccain. For some reason, he has never really caught fire among the Dems. Maybe now is the time?

[earthlover]

47. Without a doubt....Obama/Clark 08

Who could zing McCain's "foreign policy" like Clark could?

[Enrique]

48. "I'd love to see Hillary on the ticket, but..."

for a second I thought he was going to finish, "but I'd rather see myself." :-)

I'd love to see him on the ticket, mainly because we'd see a lot more of him. He's probably the politician I enjoy listening to the most. He'd kick ass in a one-on-one debate with Charlie Crist, or whoever else McCain picks.

[MindMatter]

49. I can't believe how one-sided these anchors are

I almost never watch the networks anymore. Are they like this every week?

What an asinine argument that Scheiffer was making -- McCain crashed a plane 40 years ago, ergo we should assume he has better judgment about how to deal with foreign affairs.

How about we look at what has has said and done in the past decade to guide us?

[mia]

51. Thanks for posting this. Clark for VP!

:kick:

[deacon]

58. Obama/Clark 2008 n/t

[The Wizard]

62. Did Schieffer imply

that being a lousy pilot was a qualification for the presidency? Is being a lousy pilot a Republican trait? George Herbert Walker Bush couldn't avoid crashing a plane. John Sydney McCain crashed five planes. George W. Bush couldn't pass the physical to remain a pilot in the TANG. All three had their military careers cut short because of aircraft/pilot problems.
Wes won't let the right wing corporate media get away with their usual bias. Republicans cower in fear of the General, and they should.
Airborne Ranger, Supreme NATO commander, Rhodes scholar, top of his West Point class, and all the Republicans can produce are liars and lousy pilots.
Almost all Republicans disparaged John Kerry's military service. Now they expect the American people to praise a failed fighter pilot who chose to bomb innocent people from 35,000 feet. Not from this disabled veteran, not today, not ever.

[hokies4ever]

65. Not only did he imply it

but he was shocked that Clark didn't agree with him. :rofl:

[Tom Rinaldo]

64. Wes Clark is in the finals of an online runoff for VP choice

Just 1% seperates him from Joe Biden (another good choice in my opinion) in this CQ contest that has been running for weeks. It started out with 32 contenders and now it is down to the final two. Wes Clark has my vote. Vote here if you have not voted yet:

http://innovation.cq.com/vpmadness

[lefty2000]

66. Wesley Clark Swiftboats John McCain

And why not? John McCain's failure to stand up for John Kerry in 2004 when Kerry was Swiftboated is a disgrace. Most men can withstand adversity, but if you would test their character, give them power (Abraham Lincoln).

[Spazito]

67. Swiftboating is when you tell lies about the person being "swiftboated"...

General Clark told the truth about McCain's claim to be the better choice as President due to his experiences.

Lies = swiftboating

Truth = truth

[fryguy]

68. I don't think riding in a fighter plane and getting shot down is a qualification to be president...

awesome!!!

:woohoo:

I just don't beleive Bob said "REALLY" in response to Clark's comment, as if it really IS a qualification for the job.

:spank:

Seriously, if that WERE a qualification McCain would be OVERLY qualified, having crashed FIVE times!!

Maybe the qualification should be riding in a fighter plane AND LANDING it so it can be used again.

Seems to me, if a bus driver crashed twice there is little chance they'd let him/her back behind the wheel, but it is ok for someone to destroy millions of dollars worth of tax payer property and then call him a war hero???

:wtf:

[ihavenobias]

69. K & R, Clark for VP n/t

[onehandle]

70. Perfect candidate for VP. nt

[Diamonique]

71. Well whaddaya know. MSNBC is beating up on Wes Clark today.

They're claiming that Wes attacked McCain and is disrespecting McCain's service.

They even went so far as to ask Gibbs (from Obama's campaign staff) to denounce Clark. They are SO into defending McCain on this. They want Obama to throw Clark under the bus.

OK, Barack... do now cower!

[mcjackson]

72. god, FINALLY...

...someone said this.

[JackORoses]

74. This is a VP in action right here. Clark can kick McCain square in the balls because he outranks him

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

77. Andrea Mitchell this morning said Clark was attacking McCain's record

and the newsreader before her, some black lady whose name I didn't catch, said that Clark was distorting McCain's military record.

How is Clark either attacking or distorting McCain's record? I cannot believe how far journalism has disintegrated on our airwaves.

[psquare]

78. Gen. Clark, telling it like it is!

I first thought Sen. Webb would be the best choice for VP, since Clark was viewed as too Clintonist. But he never attacked Obama with any of the "kitchen sink" charges, and has shown himself to be a fine spokesperson for the Obama campaign. His qualifications are impeccable.

Great job - he should be on the ticket. He should hammer that "qualification" line every day and night.

Imagine Clark in the VP debate with Romney, that would be priceless.

[SaveOurSovereignty]

79. Obama keeps failing

He just pretty much stood up for mcCain and scorned Clark watch it here
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jMIO3Xduh6U