Floridians Demanding their Votes be Counted!

[Tellurian]

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Protesters demanding their Votes be Counted from the FL Primary!

[NanceGreggs]

1. Yeah, it's just so reminiscent of something ...

... like something from late 2000 -- sorry, I just can't place it.

[CoffeeCat]

3. I was just going to say that!

I was thinking---Yeah, right--are these the same people who showed up to
protest the Florida re-count?

Turns out they were hired goons.

I really would not be surprised if that was the case here.

Nothing shocks me anymore when it comes to...well, you know who.

[NanceGreggs]

7. Here you go ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x5757133

[sellitman]

23. How inconvenient.

Right off her own Web Site.


:nopity:

[P0pEye]

35. "Hired goons" ... yeah, that happens a lot!

[Tellurian]

36. Disenfranchised Voters are "hired goons"?

Why are you here? Didn't you get Obama's memo: He asked his rabid supporters to jump off a cliff!

[Divine Discontent]

43. painfully reminiscent - if I may say so!

LOL...

[sasquatch]

2. Bullshit!

This is a Hillary astroturf movement that needs to be killed in its crib.

[indimuse]

19. What disgusting statement!

:puke:

[guyanakoolaid]

4. Where were these protestors when the Florida legislature was meeting to strip their votes?

I guess that was when the Clinton camp was still saying this: http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=3134

[DaLittle Kitty]

30. Thurman Was Publicly SILENT, However Thurman IS Responsible! KT Takes FULL CREDIT. Watch Her!

Here is Florida Democratic Party Chair Karen L. Thurman FIRST : Taking FULL Credit For Instigating this DEBACLE for the Presidential Primary (She was for months working to "FIXFLORIDA" fer Hillary)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORQZ6iZw1DU

Then:

Thurman calls Republican Governor Charlie Crist.. "A DEMOCRAT AND WE SHOULD SUPPORT HIM!"

ALLLL the while the controversy was developing in Tallahassee Thurman STOOD SILENTLY on the sidelines and let the stinking vote to change the primary vote w/o even a whisper... and Geller and others mocked the DNC rules while doing so.... This was a conspiracy by the Dems many of whom are better characterized as Republicans to "HIJACK" Florida fer Hillary!

But ya'll can make up yer own opinion, but that IS WHAT occurred! This IS Fundamental as to WHY Florida has been coming up as a WEAK link in electoral politics... think 2000... THINK 2004.... and NOW THINK 2008! Because of the FDP "Leedership" political ranks, registered as Democrats but acting unmistakably as REPUBLICANS that America is SUFFERING under Republican RULE! :think: then :puke:

[DaLittle Kitty]

31. WatCH THIS One TOO In Order to Get A REAL Taste Of Karen Thurman And Her Motivations!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM1qEtNIgSM

She's really nailed at the end of the video regarding her giving her son FDP MONEY and she lies about IT! Not the ONLY Lie by a stretch but it's the most outrageous! She tries to dance around taking Republican $$$$... $3,500/month from former Florida Repub. Party Chair Al Cardenas! More EVIDENCE AS TO WHY Florida Is A LOSER fer Democrats! :puke:

[DaLittle Kitty]

32. MSNBC Chuck Todd... "FDP is the WORST State Party In The NATION,BAR NONE!" WATCH IT!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKDrYQ-CnyQ


Truth hurts... DeMS in Florida... IT IS Da FDP LEEDERSHIP STUPID... They're CROOKS! :argh: :think: then :puke:

[Double T]

5. I think the Florida voters should be disenfranchised so BO can falsely 'win' the nomination.

And will those same disenfranchised voters vote AGAINST the candidate, in the GE, that took away their right to vote AND BE COUNTED in the primary.

[NanceGreggs]

8. Oh, yes, I so totally agree ...

... because when asked to sign the pledge acknowledging that FL votes not be counted, we all remember Hillary's passionate refusal to go along with that edict.

[kevinbgoode]

16. Yes...interesting that they don't show any wrath at Clinton

for that agreement. Nor any anger at their state party and legislature. Nope . . . no demonstrations months and months ago when they knew this would happen. . .

[Tellurian]

39. Can I see the link to that story..

[NanceGreggs]

41. A link to the story ...

... that Hillary refused to sign the pledge? Obviously, it doesn't exist.

She didn't 'remember' how unfair it would be if votes in FL and MI weren't counted until she realized she desperately needed them.

[thunder rising]

18. From Palm Beach ... We know what happened and if Hillary's folks want to be disenfranchised fine,

but Baracks folks are never going to sit out if he's the nominee.

[Ganja Ninja]

20. Apparently Hillary agrees with you.

9/1/2007
Clinton Campaign Statement on the Four State Pledge

The following is a statement by Clinton Campaign Manager Patti Solis Doyle.

"We believe Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada and South Carolina play a unique and special role in the nominating process.

And we believe the DNC’s rules and its calendar provide the necessary structure to respect and honor that role.

Thus, we will be signing the pledge to adhere to the DNC approved nominating calendar."

http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=3134

Funny how the "fighter" Hillary wasn't fighting for FL & MI Democrats when the party made the rule. Now after she wins the primaries of those states where the other candidates didn't campaign and weren't even on the ballot in some cases, she wants to change the rules. It's nothing but a self-serving manipulation of the election process also known as cheating. It's a dishonest and cynical ploy and had she not won in these states she would be fighting hard to keep them excluded from the process.

[iamthebandfanman]

6. hmm wonder who they all support ;)

[DrZeeLit]

28. Olbermann last night... that was the Hillary crowd... one interviewed said

"they asked us not to mention" .... that they were all Hillary supporters

I think you can get the video from the MSNBC/Countdown site.

[John Q. Citizen]

9. Are they finally pissed off about 2000? Good for them! It's a shame they didn't do it sooner!

Those Florida voters have a major delayed action.

Maybe in 8 years they will get pissed of at their state party for not holding a legitimate 2008 primary election. They will probably invite Edwards and Kucinich, and Biden and Dodd and Obama and Hillary to campaign in their state in 2016!

[bluestateguy]

10. Hillary wants those delegates. She doesn't care about suffrage. She just wants the delegates

Actually, what she really wants is the superdelegates from FL and MI, seeing as how that would pad any small advantage she would get from winning the pledged delegates in those states.

My own feeling is that we should seat uncommitted delegations from those two states. Let the candidates make their case to the delegates. Their votes will be up for grabs. But I regard the January 15 and 29 primaries to be illegitimate.

[henrytraddles]

11. peskyprimaries

Imagine the unmitigated gall of those plebeians. Howard Dean, Ted Kennedy and the other patres conscripti know what is best for democracy in America, and anybody that keeps harping about the founding fathers and their warnings about political parties subverting the voting franchise and its role in the republic is spending a suspicious amount of time actually reading things like the Federalist papers.

[hokies4ever]

13. Jon Stewart said it wonderfully

About a week ago. He showed Hillary Clinton in January talking about how she trusted the American voters to make the right decision. Then Jon Stewart cut to another video where she was kind of dissing the voters, and Stewart talked about how those darn leverpullers violated her trust by not voting for her. :rofl:

[Tellurian]

40. .....

[mac2]

21. Let them vote and be part of the process.

At the convention change the "party rules" to have primary elections all on the same day. That way small and big states won't feel more or less privilege. Have the primaries four months prior to the election. It would be cheaper and less stressful for everyone.

No Super Delegates since they are not elected or still in office. One vote for each delegate sent there by their districts.

Why can't Dems get their act together? They screw up election after election on purpose? Get new leadership.

[hokies4ever]

12. Didn't you get the memo?

Politico.com has already reported that most superdelegates have decided. They've even informed the campaigns of their decision, and more of them chose Obama. It's already over. Now coalesce behind Obama as the presumptive nominee or go over to the Johnny "100 Year War" McCain.

[izzie]

14. Why not wait until this is all over then give them the % each got?

Then they would have the same say as every one else at the end game.

[kevinbgoode]

17. And why don't they put some energy into getting rid of that

outrageous right-wing legislature that is rapidly turning their state into a conservative model of repression?

[izzie]

42. I do not know what the state does but I think how we pick is nuts

You get sick of who ever is running long before they get in. I say just take the end percent, when it is all over, and hand it out to Fl etc.

[kevinbgoode]

15. Funny that they didn't march on Tallahassee and demonstrate

in front of the Republican legislature.

[mac2]

22. Did they take them to court for removing their primary vote?

[DaLittle Kitty]

33. YES Because Thurman The FDP Chair Stood Idly by at The Time Try'n ta Fixit Fer Hill!

:puke:

[Phred42]

24. KO ppointed out last night that this was run by the Clinton campagin

ZZzzzzzz.....

[susankh4]

25. Good for them!

We cannot concede Florida to Mr. McCain. It is time to fight... to keep the Dems down there engaged.

Charlie Crist is on the trail every day, telling Floriians how poorly the ems are treating them.

The disenfranchisement has to STOP!

[BigD_95]

26. They will count

as soon as we have our Nominee . I just hope they show this much passion when it comes time to punish the FL Dems for allowing this to happen.

[DaLittle Kitty]

34. Punish FDP "LeeedershiP" Fire The CROOK! We're SICK of the CORRUPT FDP LEEDERS!

Give Thurman a Cigar and send her into the back room where she belongs... She's diSGUSTING!

[underpants]

27. How do you count votes of people who didn't vote because they knew THEY WOULDN'T COUNT?

D'uh

[progressoid]

37. You're just not thinking about this with extra-special Hillary logic.

Just because those people didn't vote because they didn't think it would count doesn't mean that the ones that did vote just in case it might count should be discounted because maybe they thought that it would count somehow in the future and by counting the ones that voted we are really making all Floridians happy because it's just like a normal election again except for the ones that didn't vote because they didn't think it would count but there probably weren't that many of them anyway so let's just count the ones that did vote since those people actually voted so we know their votes are the real thing so they should be counted and then it will seem just like a normal Florida
election.


See? :)

[underpants]

38. Oh

thanks

I'll try to assimilate more :hi:

[Lost4words]

29. FLA can leave on the stolen election they road in on!