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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:42 PM
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Powell Writes to Petraeus
 
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:55 PM
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1. K&R. My god, can this be true? Can C.P. actually have regrets?
I'd dust that letter for Karl Rove's fingerprints.

Other than that, it is amazing to find that Powell, of My Lai, Iran-Contra, and phantom WMDs, actually feels that his reputation was ruined by something. That's not the GOP way, Mr. Secretary. Being a shill only makes you stronger in the GOP.

Also, if Powell thinks I'd vote for Betrayus for president if he suddenly started telling the truth, he may be as delusional as he was in 2002/2003.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:31 PM
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8. Oh, I forgot to mention Somalia and the mishandling there
Powell was involved in the lack of armor there, as well. He's got quite a record.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 01:58 PM
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2. WOW. Here's to hoping this is true and gets
the widest exposure possible in the MSM. Kicking the hell out of this.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:00 PM
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3. I'm not finding the letter at afterdowningstreet.org
Any idea when it will be posted? Thanks,
PP
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:05 PM
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4. just kidding
Colin Powell writes to Gen. David Petraeus

Original: http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/32549

Video: http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/32549

Dear David,

This letter is not for publication, and my motivation is not political. I'm writing to you not out of concern for establishing the best policy in Iraq but out of personal concern for your well being. So, please accept my unsolicited advice as it is intended: purely for your sake. But I would ask you not to share this correspondence with anyone.

The presentation I made at the United Nations making the case for an invasion of Iraq was the worst mistake I have ever made. I don't, of course, mean that my beliefs about weapons in Iraq proved false or that the occupation of Iraq proved problematic. I mean that I did not heed the warnings of my staff. They urged me on point after point that the UN inspectors and those informed of the facts would not find my claims to be even plausible, much less convincing. And in my heart, David, I can tell you that I knew they were right, and that the claims I made were not plausible. It may have taken some time for Americans to realize that, but let me assure you: they have realized it. I am no longer respected by the average American. Do you know what that means?

I've been a good soldier and worked within the system to get ahead, but my goal was to do good and to be respected. I tossed out doing good in favor of being respected, and I ended up being despised. And nothing I can say or do will ever change that. I will forever be known as a man who lied, and who lied on behalf of someone else's agenda. Were that not so, I would very likely have been given the assignment that you now have.

These are one-time assignments. You can only throw away your reputation once. After that, you can never build it back in order to throw it away again. I know that you think otherwise. I know that the deception you perpetrated last September has not destroyed you. But this one will, David. I tell you this for your own good. And in the histories of this period to be written not so many years from now, your two presentations will be merged and blurred, and what you said in selling the surge will be remembered as having destroyed you.

And that's if we're lucky. That's if your push for an attack on Iran doesn't pull the pin on a grenade that takes us all out. It will take you out first. If you argue for an attack on Iran, you will witness the transformation of spineless senators and congress members into vertebrates, and you will be humiliated then and there by their grilling. Are you prepared for that? And if you merely try to claim, in opposition to the well-known facts, that the surge has succeeded and that therefore we should behave as if it has not and keep the occupation going, you will in the end be ruined.

You have not yet adapted to the adulation of fame. Let me tell you this: you will never adapt to the scorn and contempt that your face will elicit from random members of the public. I know that I never will. I am warning you for your own good. Please heed my advice as one who has made the wrong decision and paid a price worse than death for it. Do not promote the continued occupation of Iraq and do not argue for an attack on Iran.

Instead, I think you should consider the possibility of telling the truth about the current situation in Iraq. If you did that, your name and the words "White House" would be in the same sentence within hours. I urge you to give the matter deep private thought. Look back on what you will have done as if from your death bed. Consider the decades of admiration or humiliation that lie in the balance. Do the right thing for yourself and for all of us. Speak for yourself. Speak the truth.

Your friend, Colin Powell.
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:12 PM
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6. Thank you, Mr. Swanson
This vet salutes you.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:30 PM
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7. Thank you
Can I ask, because I know that you will be asked this (probably ad naseum), how it was that you were able to verify the authenticity of this to your satisfaction?
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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 07:04 PM
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14. Tis Fiction
Sarcasm

Joke

Unreality

:-)
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 08:17 PM
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15. You have "just kidding" in the subject line of your post,
as well as at the end of the letter at afterdowningstreet.org

Is this supposed to be funny? Many people here and at ADS are taking it seriously, and if you're just messin' with us (and I think you are) that's unconscionable.

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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 09:54 PM
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16. obviously
i thought it was conscionable and not exactly "messing" with you

i didn't think you would actually believe it was real, which would require a radically different view of Colin Powell and US politics than I think most people hold
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:11 PM
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5. If this is genuine, Powell is indeed a tragic figure
That's something I've suspected for a long time.

Many who opposed the war felt that Powell should have resigned rather than go to UN with the pack of lies provided by Dick Cheney and Scooter Libby. He knew a lot of it was crap and didn't include much of the misinformation they tried to feed him. Surely, he suspected that something wasn't right. Today, he regrets not walking away as he should have.
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happygoluckytoyou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 02:39 PM
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9. I'D FEEL SAD FOR POWELL....IF I WASN'T CRYING FOR THE MILLIONS OF DEAD IRAQI AND AMERICANS
GOOD --- HE WROTE A LETTER..... better than NOT.....

and he is right.... i hate the man AND HIS LIES....

do i forgive him.... SHIT... what does THAT matter....

does he forgive himself.... i think NOT, and i think he is RIGHT

-------- a GENERAL is given a powerful trust... BE SAD GENERAL... YOU SHOULD ALWAYS BE SAD
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:04 PM
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10. Thank you Mr. Swanson.
Very Big, Very Powerful. Wow! Thanks for putting this letter up onto Youtube.
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ProfessorPlum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:30 PM
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11. This seems to be a late APRIL FOOLS joke
Sorry for being so slow to catch on, David. Great letter, but you had me going there.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 03:50 PM
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12. This has to be a joke
Colin Powell couldn't possibly imagine for a second that, after covering up the MyLai Massacre, he had any reputation to throw away. Powell has always been a whore.

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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-07-08 05:29 PM
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13. No offense intended, but this just doesn't have the ring of truth.
Edited on Mon Apr-07-08 05:41 PM by swag
The letter seems fake and uncharacteristic of its purported author in many ways.

Don't know where you came across this letter, but I can't imagine that it's authentic.

On edit: perhaps there was some hint somewhere that this was satire, fiction, or something. If so, it was lost on me.
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GMFORD Donating Member (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:23 AM
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17. It's the letter that Powell should
have written to Petreus. I like the part about his name and the White House in the same sentence...Powell had a shot at the WH at one time but he threw it away to help the neo-cons and their idiotic PNAC project.
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goletian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 12:55 AM
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18. this is fake, guys.
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 12:55 AM by goletian
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/57811

Colin Powell Writes to Gen. David Petraeus
David Swanson
April 07, 2008

Dear David,

This letter is not for publication, and my motivation is not political. I'm writing to you not out of concern for establishing the best policy in Iraq but out of personal concern for your well being. So, please accept my unsolicited advice as it is intended: purely for your sake. But I would ask you not to share this correspondence with anyone.

The presentation I made at the United Nations making the case for an invasion of Iraq was the worst mistake I have ever made. I don't, of course, mean that my beliefs about weapons in Iraq proved false or that the occupation of Iraq proved problematic. I mean that I did not heed the warnings of my staff. They urged me on point after point that the UN inspectors and those informed of the facts would not find my claims to be even plausible, much less convincing. And in my heart, David, I can tell you that I knew they were right, and that the claims I made were not plausible. It may have taken some time for Americans to realize that, but let me assure you: they have realized it. I am no longer respected by the average American. Do you know what that means?

I've been a good soldier and worked within the system to get ahead, but my goal was to do good and to be respected. I tossed out doing good in favor of being respected, and I ended up being despised. And nothing I can say or do will ever change that. I will forever be known as a man who lied, and who lied on behalf of someone else's agenda. Were that not so, I would very likely have been given the assignment that you now have.

These are one-time assignments. You can only throw away your reputation once. After that, you can never build it back in order to throw it away again. I know that you think otherwise. I know that the deception you perpetrated last September has not destroyed you. But this one will, David. I tell you this for your own good. And in the histories of this period to be written not so many years from now, your two presentations will be merged and blurred, and what you said in selling the surge will be remembered as having destroyed you.



And that's if we're lucky. That's if your push for an attack on Iran doesn't pull the pin on a grenade that takes us all out. It will take you out first. If you argue for an attack on Iran, you will witness the transformation of spineless senators and congress members into vertebrates, and you will be humiliated then and there by their grilling. Are you prepared for that? And if you merely try to claim, in opposition to the well-known facts, that the surge has succeeded and that therefore we should behave as if it has not and keep the occupation going, you will in the end be ruined.

You have not yet adapted to the adulation of fame. Let me tell you this: you will never adapt to the scorn and contempt that your face will elicit from random members of the public. I know that I never will. I am warning you for your own good. Please heed my advice as one who has made the wrong decision and paid a price worse than death for it. Do not promote the continued occupation of Iraq and do not argue for an attack on Iran.

Instead, I think you should consider the possibility of telling the truth about the current situation in Iraq. If you did that, your name and the words "White House" would be in the same sentence within hours. I urge you to give the matter deep private thought. Look back on what you will have done as if from your death bed. Consider the decades of admiration or humiliation that lie in the balance. Do the right thing for yourself and for all of us. Speak for yourself. Speak the truth.

Your friend, Colin Powell.

Original: http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/32549

Video: http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/32549

just kidding
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elleng Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-08-08 09:00 AM
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19. nevermind! POWELL LETTER TO PETRAEUS
Edited on Tue Apr-08-08 09:02 AM by elleng
Remember.
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