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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:10 PM
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Does Hillary Clinton Really Have a Chance?
 
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:16 PM
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1. K & R!
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calmblueocean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 07:46 PM
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2. It's not about delegates at all.
Cenk makes the undeniable case as to why Hillary is too far behind to win the pledged delegate race. She knows this.

But Battleship Hillary is going to continue firing all guns at Barack all the way to the convention, with the notion that, by the time they get there, the Good Ship Obama is going to be so full of holes it is no longer seaworthy. Hillary won't have the lead in pledged delegates, but comparatively she'll look like the stronger candidate, and the Superdelegates will put her over the top. No one will riot because Obama will so plainly be damaged goods.

In other words, she'll be the McCain before McCain, and wait for new Rezko dirt to come out during the trial or something else to show up from Obama's past that ruins him. That's the hope anyway.

The saddest part of this strategy is that it's going to turn off a whole segment of voters Obama was bringing in, the ones who find the bickering and negativity of partisan politics distasteful. I think many of them are already saying, "To heck with both of you," now that the race has descended down into negative ad territory.

I have begun to think that the ultimate victory is going to be McCain's this year. What a shame.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 08:50 PM
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3. Yeah, it's starting to really look like that may be the case. Time will tell. n/t
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MaraJade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:35 PM
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4. And if Hillary loses these primaries, most of her supporters won't
vote for Obama. They'll defect right over to McCain. So I agree with you.

It'll be McCain as our next POTUS.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 09:46 PM
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5. I don't buy that threat
Most of Hillary's supporters do NOT want 1-2 more conservative supreme court justices, because they know exactly what that would mean.
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-04-08 10:04 PM
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6. That would bea disaster....... Hillary needs to give it UP.
She cannot win, she doesn't have a chance with delegates and if they vote against the will of the people they will find themselves out next election day.
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mysteryman2 Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 06:33 AM
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7. Yes she won the biggest states
Edited on Wed Mar-05-08 06:37 AM by mysteryman2
What may happen since Obama was on the ballot in Florida if it goes to the convention. They will split Michigan or revote. If they can't decide on Michigan they will flip a coin. And decide to split or revote. Does anybody have that lucky french angel coin. Let the angels decide.

Howard Dean will flip Bill will witness for Hillary and I have no idea who will witness for Barack.

Hillary will get Florida sorry Obama was on the ticket. It's only fair.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-05-08 01:26 PM
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8. But you have to look at the big cities *within* those big states
Like Ohio yesterday. Cincinnati, Cleveland, etc. Who won those? Winning in the primaries is not the same as winning in the general.
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